(Due to a loss of about ten
minutes of recording time, we start in as Omal is talking)
Omal: back to the issue at hand.
Omal: okay, yes that would be useful. Stock
up, the money that you would have expended on
the food, use for more useful tools.
Omal: such as heating equipment.
Russ: cords of wood.
Omal: cords of wood, propane, candles…
Russ: yeah, I agree.
Omal: uh-huh but, back to the storage spaces.
Omal: you have ample storage spaces. In the
winter, you take goods that withstand cold….
Omal: you make boxes. You pack the snow around
them, what do you have in essence?
Russ: a refrigerator.
Omal: correct. So perishable goods like let us
say meat, you put them in the boxes, close the
lid, make sure the lid cannot be opened by the
feline domesticus or…..
Russ: raccoons domesticus and other......
Omal: coyote hungyerus.
Russ: well the raccoon would be the smartest
out of a whole bunch I think.
Omal: yes. You make it heavy enough that it to
be difficult for a bear or even put a padlock
Omal: so that you would be able to have more
space and also maintain a high protein level.
Russ: what about an outside storage area like
the one next door, there’s a metal storage
Russ: which they use for a shed?
Russ: those are fairly inexpensive and fairly
sturdy, stand up to most anything.
Russ: padlock on them in the wintertime, they
stay very cold out there due to it's all
Omal: snow gets packed up around them…..
Russ: that might be an option.
Omal: yes, that might be an option. Okay, the
Russ: oh yes, we need to work on that.
Russ: I don’t think the idea we had for it
before was a viable one.
Omal: it is a viable one believe it or not.
Omal: it just needs more rigid support.
Omal: what you want to do, and Kiri is saying
that Mark has placed bracing in front of it,
is now it is rigid. But instead of doing a
tent-like arrangement, you do the sides and
then you would get something like clear
plastic for the front and the back.
Omal: so therefore it is a sealed-in unit. It
does not matter the plastic gets damaged and
gradually what you could do is replace the
plastic with clear plastic.
Russ: oh so in another words, the covering of
it will be a harder material........
Russ: a tent-like material that will withstand
Omal: well you start off with the flimsy sheet
plastic and then gradually add in as you go
the corrugated plastic….
Omal: so you would build up the sides.
Omal: drill a hole through and you bolt it in
Russ: okay, excellent. Also, I’m thinking, is
there a way we can use the deck as a
Omal: oh yes, most easily.
Russ: because I’m thinking almost that the
deck would make a easier access just because
it'd be right there. You go out the door, the
deck’s there, the greenhouse is right there,
Russ: or whatever and you got the support of
Omal: the house.
Russ: the house.
Omal: yes, you could work on that. You could
actually use glass in that situation….
Omal: and you would be able to......thank you,
she deserves a......I think you would call
it......thank you Tia, a pog for that comment.
Russ: oh God.
Omal: your charming lady has just made a
Omal: it would be a nice improvement for your
house, something that would be beneficial for
the price on the house?
Omal: she can be very manipulative and
can........manipulative is the best way to
describe her and she is suggesting that
somebody to be talked into contributing.
Russ: my mother.
Russ: that’s not a bad idea, a little
conservatory kind of thing.
Omal: I think she called it a atrium.
Russ: atrium, indeed.
Omal: much more posher than a conservatory.
Russ: and it looks better than the old
Russ: greenhouse. That would be nice to go
inside and sit around and….
Omal: and, you can also use the construction
to benefit somebody else.
Russ: who? Skip.
Russ: of course.
Omal: Karra is a genius at being manipulative
and supplying the information where it would
be better for you to extrapolate and learn on
Omal: take that pog away.
(that comment gets Russ laughing)
Russ: okay, good, good. That would be perfect,
you’d have plenty of space….
Russ: and the water situation would be a lot
easier there instead of having to truck it all
the way across the yard, it's right there, you
could run a hose.
Omal: uh-huh and also when it rains, on the
guttering you get yourself a barrel.
Russ: hmm, indeed.
Russ: perfect. This is going to work out a lot
Omal: or even two barrels and they look so
Russ: yes they would.
Omal: give her the pog back.
(Russ starts laughing again)
Russ: and we could use that space out there
where the greenhouse was for more……because
there's a lot of sunlight there….
Russ: for a lot more legumes or other
vegetables that we could put in in the ground.
Omal: uh-huh or….
Omal: other trade goods.
Russ: indeed, indeed.
Omal: good thinking. Okay let us look at what
you could grow inside in pots….
Omal: in the greenhouse that you will have
plenty of room.
Russ: indeed, that sun hits right perfectly on
Omal: something that would be very useful,
dried or during the summer not dried.
Omal: something that climbs that would be
useful for making beverages from.
Russ: perfect environment for them.
Omal: you could have two types as a matter
Russ: indeed. Okay, that’s a great plan, I
think we’re really looking good there.
Omal: okay. And, what you could possibly do
for extra defensive measures for the castle
Omal: is decking.
Omal: again, that would increase the value of
Russ: decking where, oh out the front?
Omal: out the front. A carport.
Russ: oh I see, decking over
Omal: you could put a door in there.
Russ: uh-huh, go out onto the….
Omal: onto the deck.
Russ: hmm, indeed.
Omal: your vehicles are protected, your nice,
new Jeep is protected.
Russ: that wouldn't be difficult, there’s
plenty of plans for that around the town.
Russ: wow, this would be nice.
Omal: and again, thank you, give that girl
another pog, it would increase the value of
the house exponentially.
Russ: hmm, now that’s something we can start
on come Spring because we can get plans now….
Russ: get everything measured out ready to
Russ: at the point where it’s ready to kick
in, then come springtime, just take some of
the funds that we would have used on food….
Russ: and put it in toward putting that.
Omal: yes, and you would be able to do it
Russ: sure, easy. Not easy but workable.
Russ: dang, boy you got so may places you
could build onto out there.
Russ: I mean it's a natural building source.
Russ: hmm, interesting. Well thank you, that
will definitely be a much better plan.
Omal: you’re welcome, thank you.
Russ: thank you Omal, that was a very lovely
Omal: live long, prosper and I’ll be back.
(This is our first time hearing Tia though she had
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: anyway, you got any questions for me?
Russ: not just yet. Oh, congratulations on your new
Tia: I’ve got a meeting tomorrow to discuss it, I
think that’s what they want to discuss.
Russ: oh you’ll get it.
(Tia hums her way out of the channeling field)
(Karra, Lady of the Pogs, takes
Russ: greetings my love,
timing as always.
Karra: oh, perfect timing.
Russ: of course. Well we have been hard at
work I’d say today.
Russ: so, two pogs for the lady.
Russ: good job.
Karra: I followed this pog development, two
pogs does not give me much does it?
Russ: no but you're on the way to getting a
Russ: I know, you’ll learn more about it
tomorrow when I do in that meeting.
Karra: yes, uh-huh. You don’t have that many
pogs either do you?
Russ: I've got five, six with tomorrow.
Russ: if get a new hat out of it which takes
Karra: uh-huh, looks like Mark has five in
here, well two in here.
Russ: oh, he’s a manager, he's supposed to
give them out so.....
Karra: who's supposed to give them out?
Russ: he is.
Karra: well, why does he have them then?
Russ: well he has them in case he has to
give one out and have them available to
give. Oh no, no, no....
Karra: no, I want to decipher them.
Russ: okay, Heavenly's outstanding team or
H.O.T. and teamwork pog which gets you
outstanding employee which means some
employee who's done great.
Karra: I think we better put them back. Tia
says that they are Mark's.
Russ: oh they are, he probably earned them.
Karra: probably. I wonder what he done to
deserve.......Tia’s talking about avalanche
Karra: yes? This one is.....
(a cat in the room)
Karra: yes, the one that had the throat
Russ: correct, looks quite fine now.
Karra: feels quite fine, okay.
Russ: all right now love, let’s work on
Karen for a second.
Russ: since she's been on my mind right now.
I recognize her from a past life but I can’t
decide or determine which one.
Karra: I can’t tell you which one.
Russ: I know but I’m wondering if with her
ability at clairvoyance….
Russ: and coming out now, it would be
something that perhaps would help my
Karra: you sense a healer don’t you? Yes it
would, it might help you in other ways too.
Russ: hmm. All right, let’s see, where to
now? God, so many places to jump on.
Karra: manipulative indeed.
Russ: love it.
Russ: now, we are working on other
Russ: that will be helpful for starting of
Russ: okay, so we discussed flour…
Karra: I think Omal had wonderful input on
Russ: absolutely, that was really good. I’m
thinking we need to vary our diets and get
better amounts of food stored that would
give us…..like Top Ramen’s fine but you
don’t want to live on the stuff.
Karra: no, that is why I think he was
suggesting lagumes and…
Russ: and growing.
Russ: what can you store now though that
would do the same? Canned goods or in cases
where you can’t grow foods?
Karra: yes, I think that that would work but
Russ: how is the shelflife on nuts, pretty
Karra: yeah, besides they're renewable,
they'll keep for a year or so.
Russ: trail mix and stuff too would be good.
Karra: uh-huh but there’s something you’re
forgetting about nuts.
Russ: what? Protein.
Karra: uh-huh and go outside, dig around and
pull up a cone.
Karra: what have you got there?
Russ: hmmm. So the Indians lived on them…
Russ: we can certainly use them.
Karra: certainly and they’re very high in
protein and oil.
Russ: uh-huh, absolutely. Okay, that’s a
good one. Probably stored properly they
would last at least a year.
Russ: five-gallon buckets, I need to track
Karra: uh-huh, fill up one of those.
Russ: I think can find them at Smart and
Karra: yes, you have a five-gallon bucket
filled with pine nuts and stuff, that will
keep you going for a couple months.
Russ: oh easy. And......
Karra: not only pine nuts. Expeditions down
to the lower levels looking for walnut
trees. Hazelnuts, filbert trees.
Russ: hmm. Now Tia….
Russ: mentioned a six-month supply.
Russ: now is that an optimistic appraisal do
Karra: I don’t know, Tia has her own rules
and tendencies and information that she
gives out and withholds.
Russ: so something like nuts which would
stand at least a year and some of this other
stuff will stand till the end of time…..
Russ: would give us plenty of backup just in
case six months is an optimistic figure.
Russ: I think the six-month figure would be
good to plan for things that are perishable,
Karra: well the way you would do it is you
would say, “okay, this is six months
emergency supply. When we get to the
three-month point we will start to have to
look for more supplies. Remember, six months
is half a year.
Russ: true. Now what we could do is set up
our food storage system in a system that
relegates stuff to perishable to this
Russ: this stuff is perishable to this part,
this stuff never dies.
Russ: like nuts to a year, Top Ramen till 50
Karra: yes but you have things like legumes
Karra: the fact that they’ve been dried, you
can keep on renewing them. Let us say that
you have 40 pounds of lima beans. That'd
supply for a month at least….
Russ: oh yeah.
Karra: and you also have some that you would
save the planting, the best-looking ones
would be saved for planting and you pick
Russ: what about a really good, big soup
Russ: something that you can just keep
Russ: and it’s soup anybody can take.
Russ: if you had a nice, little fire going
under your stove, a little wood, piece of
wood every once in a while just to stay warm
and that soup would just be…..grab a bowl
when you come out of the cold or something.
Russ: that’s a great idea, hmm. Okay and if
you wanted you just toss herbs in every once
in a while.
Karra: uh-huh. I remember as a little girl
we have a cottage high up in the hills….
Karra: and I was about oh seven years old
and dad and my mother and myself were up
Karra: and we were having a quiet weekend,
very quiet weekend and we were up there and
we got caught in a snow blizzard. Visibility
was……I remember sticking my hand out like
that and going, “mommy, why can’t I see my
hand?” And she said that it was snowing very
hard. We had a stove in there that was made
out of metal and we burnt all sorts of
things in there including soil but a
particular type of soil that was from a
swamp and there was an area where the
laborers that lived there normally…..well
they live there now…..used to go out and
they still do……and they cut the soil and
they use it as fuel. I’m not quite sure what
Russ: like peat?
Karra: something like that.
Karra: it smells real nice. I think you
would call the cottage a coft?
Russ: uh-huh, a croft.
Karra: coft in Sirian.
Russ: oh, okay. It would be croft down here
in English or Celtic.
Karra: hmm. Okay anyway, there is that kind
of as an alternative fuel and I’m pretty
sure that if worse came to worse you would
be able to locate peat really close at hand.
Russ: uh-huh, there are a number of areas
Karra: uh-huh. I don’t think there’s one
very far away we actually in an area where
you could locate.
Russ: yeah, right over here in the meadow
Karra: I’ve got to stop doing that.
Russ: I’ll have to have to look it up.
Karra: uh-huh but you would be able to burn
that as a fuel.
Russ: hmm, theoretically.
Karra: theoretically yes.
Russ: I'll look into that.
Russ: now what about figuring out a way to
gather up the pine needles…
Russ: and compress them into like bricks or
something like that or at least tie them up
tight to where they would make little logs.
Karra: yes, that would work.
Russ: they burn really hot and would start
any fire or any kind of wood that you wanted
and they'd store great.
Russ: remember how in Sedona they had the
sage all tied up as smudge sticks?
Russ: do the same thing with a bunch of pine
Karra: yeah, uh-huh.
Russ: that would just burn great.
Karra: yes it would, it would, it would burn
Russ: I wonder if that would make a great,
little startering technique too?
Karra: uh-huh and you can also…...
Russ: instant kindling.
Karra: also wrap them together like twigs,
the longer ones.
Karra: and you can use them to sweep..
Russ: yeah. This is a great session….
Russ: got some great ideas.
Karra: I think we ought to call it survival.
Russ: yeah, I agree.
Karra: survival of the smartest.
Karra: well I will put on the playful one.
Russ: love you darling, more than you can
Karra: yes, I will be doing lots of
Russ: yes, I’ll be dwelling on this for a
Russ: all right, talk to you in a second.
Karra: okay. Don’t worry about coming over,
I’m not going to get home until late.
Russ: okay, no problem.
Russ: bye love.
Russ: thank you.
(Tia is set to help on our theme
tonight of survival)
Tia: oh, oops-y-daisy.
Russ: and you are online sweetheart.
Tia: yes, both here and down there.
Russ: actually, this does tape pretty good in the
situation we're using right now.
Tia: uh-huh, it actually sounds a little better than
the system you have downstairs.
Russ: lucky guess.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, let us get down to business.
Russ: okay, here we go. Now…..
Russ: a book….
Tia: a book.
Russ: are you familiar with this book?
Tia: let me access here for a second.
Tia: yes we have accessed and there’s penguins in
(she is referring to areas of Mark's mind)
Tia: okay your question on the book "Dune"…
Russ: "Dune", by Frank Herbert. Now "Dune", as a
pre-face, is quite a fascinating book for its
relevant matter to our current situation and that
being the practice of shortage and knowledge of
attainable goods. Okay, now in "Dune" the shortage
of course for water and one of the things that I
just read here just before we started the session
here I thought it might bring up a little bit and
see what you thought and this concerns the law of
Russ: "and growth is limited by the necessity which
is present in the least amount and naturally the
least favorable conditions control the growth rate.
Water is the least favorable condition for life on
Arrakis and remember that growth itself can produce
unfavorable conditions unless treated with extreme
Tia: uh-huh, too much growth can be detrimental, too
little growth can be detrimental is basically what
Russ: right. Now the factor of growth is controlled
by, as it says here the, "limited by the necessity
which is present in the least amount".
Russ: so therefore, if we require something, then
our growth would be dependent on that which we can
get the least?
Tia: the least that you can get by on.
Russ: the least that you can get by on?
Russ: I see. So in another words, when we’re dealing
with things like food and other necessities….
Russ: then that which we can get by on the least
continues our growth.
Russ: so for example, say I weighed 320 pounds……
Russ: okay? That would mean I require more food on a
daily level than myself which only weighs 160 pounds
or forty pounds.
Russ: so therefore in a condition of shortages, I
would have a better chance of getting by than the
gentleman at 320 pounds.
Tia: because the person at 320 pounds is used to a
daily calorie intake that is much higher.
Tia: so therefore he needs much more to sustain his
current level. Now if it’s because he’s tall and not
fat, fat you can do with way with, you can lose. If
he was fat, he might outlive you but there again he
might not. But if it was because of the fact that he
was tall and well-built and had the minimum amount
of fat on his frame, then he would need to maintain
that level for him to function.
Russ: let’s say that we both had the same amount of
food amounts, let's say a hundred calories a day
Russ: and the gentleman was fat, he’d outlive me?
Russ: because his body would eat off the fat.
Russ: and he’d look like hell after it was off. I
might die but I'd die looking a lot better than he
Tia: yeah but you’d be dead, he wouldn’t.
Russ: I don’t know if I’d want to live. Anyway, so
now we go on to our current situation which is the
stocking of supplies.
Russ: Top Ramen.
Russ: one of instant lunches kind of deal where we
just add boiling water.
Tia: yeah and if you throw in the herbs and the
dried food right? You can turn it into a lunch or
not lunch, into a dinner.
Tia: yeah, you want to plan about a six-month siege
Russ: now for how many people though?
Tia: well what you’ve got there is enough for one
person for two months….
Tia: and that’s just Top Ramen.
Russ: that’s just the Top Ramen, that doesn't
includes the fifty pounds of Rice.
Russ: which would make a good side dish for that.
Tia: yeah, so what you have is enough to keep one
person going for two months with a full meal, one
meal a day….
Tia: including rice and so on.
Russ: yeah, rice and Top Ramen. Well you could do
rice in the morning, Top Ramen at night.
Tia: uh-huh plus herbs and stuff. What you've got
there will keep on person going for about two
Tia: with a full meal basically.
Tia: either splitting into two or just having it as
Russ: it would be a pretty boring two months but
Tia: uh-huh yeah but you would be a alive at the end
of the day.
Russ: you'd be alive at the end of the day.
Tia: so what with what you have there already, you
have enough for one person for two months. Now if
that is enough for one person for two months right?
You have to multiply that by how many people you
need. Now, you'd have to multiply that by three for
Russ: now the question here is what you just said,
how many people do we need?
Russ: okay, now that is an optimal point that we
need to work on here is in the scenario B situation
that we are currently looking at….
Russ: now there will be a minimum and a maximum
amount of people.
Tia: well how many people are you prepared to put
into each room?
Tia: two in each room would be comfortable so it
would be two, four, six, eight.
Tia: so, you have to.....thank you.....you would
have to multiply how much six months would be
by........I tell my girls off for biting their
Russ: oh, well yeah, but they've got different nails
than I do.
Tia: yes? Kiri tells Alex and Leonedies for biting
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: tells them off. But okay, so you would multiply
that, what you have there, by 16. Why 16?
Russ: because it would be a two-month supply for
Russ: okay, now two months with eight people…..
Russ: we have the food supplies......
Russ: now, at that point we also have to plan the
heating of the water to cook the food that we have
the supplies for.
Russ: so therefore we have to figure into our
calculations how much heat it takes to feed eight
people one day on the stuff that we have.
Tia: okay, what you also might think of doing is
building a barbecue in the backyard.
Tia: build the barbecue.......build the barbecue
with a side oven right? Which should be pretty easy.
Tia: top grill plate. You can put on one side, you
can probably get away with putting a piece of metal
that would get hot so you can put things on there to
boil like water and so on.
Russ: well we're still working on the insert for the
Russ: which would be much more handier because then
we could have heat in the winter plus a cooking
Russ: which is basically where the outside would
only be good for a certain amount of the year.
Tia: no it wouldn’t, use it all the time. The heat
would dry and get rid of everything, you just put
dry wood in there right? And light it.
Russ: okay. But it’s outside though, you’re going to
lose the heating capabilities that you could double
for in the house.
Tia: oh certainly, certainly. Certainly you would
lose that heating capability…..
Russ: see, that’s why I say it would only be good in
the summertime where you're not worried about the
heating capabilities and you wouldn’t………because like
I say, we're dealing with "Dune", we’re going we're
Russ: okay? And we have to focus on the lack of
waste to the extreme degree that any plan we can
make that would eliminate the waste of a necessary
ingredient, for example warmth as well as cooking.
Tia: okay, let’s have a look at something else…
Tia: okay, you have plenty of access to meat right?
Russ: I guess.
Tia: let’s assume.
Tia: deer meat, whatever right? What are you going
to do about lighting?
Russ: lighting the fire?
Tia: no, lighting.
Russ: oh lighting, keeping the place lit.
Russ: well, we have of course the plan we're working
on now which is lamps and candles….
Russ: mostly lamps.
Tia: okay, let’s say your candles are gone.
Tia: right? And the oil’s gone.
Tia: what can use as a substitute?
Russ: deer fat.
Tia: uh-huh, smells horrible but gives off a light.
Tia: gives off a smoke as well but you could get
away with that. So when you’re cooking right? What
you do is the fat you take off and you put in a jar.
Then you can scoop it out, put a wick in the middle
or render it down, put a wick in the middle and then
let it solidify and you got yourself a candle.
Tia: not a very good one but you have lighting.
Tia: message from Karra is that she will go off-line
in about 20 minutes or so……10 minutes, okay? Let me put on the next
and last person.
Russ: all right.
(Lyka is our survival expert and
a good source of information on the subject)
Lyka: how’s it going?
Russ: not bad Lyka, how’s yourself?
Lyka: not too bad, not too bad, can’t complain.
Russ: going to the party?
Lyka: what, tonight?
Russ: no, tomorrow.
Lyka: uh-huh, I’m going to be there.
Russ: are you going to be performing or just
Lyka: just watching. Oh you mean the demonstration
they’re going to?
Russ: uh-huh, yeah.
Lyka: that’s tonight.
Russ: oh it’s tonight?
Russ: right and you’re going to be performing right?
Lyka: I might perform.
Russ: you're a skier right? You’re defending your
Lyka: oh I’ll be racing.
Lyka: no, not that kind of performing.
Russ: oh, okay.
Lyka: uh-huh. Lots of gorgeous men and women dancing
Russ: so where's that keep you out?
Lyka: well I’ve got to keep myself in tip top shape
and besides, I plan to have early nights when the
races are here.
Russ: oh okay.
Lyka: well reasonably early although from what I’ve
heard there’s a couple of guys and girls that I
might be interested in. Saw a picture of a girl,
she’s a real hard body and her boyfriend is a real
Russ: sounds like fun.
Russ: well sounds like Hades Base good God.
Lyka: oh yeah. I’ve got my plans, I’m going to take
them to Lake Dolphin and show them what passion is
on the beach.
Russ: take them on the boat?
Lyka: yeah we might do it on the boat.
Russ: boat might be good.
Russ: that kind of rocking motion like a huge
Russ: hmm, anyway……
Russ: as you know, we're discussing survival again.
Lyka: yes, survival,
of the fittest.
Russ: the smartest.
Lyka: uh-huh, that’s what Karra called it. You know
she’s absolutely adorable?
Russ: I can’t argue with you.
Russ: I love the lady more than life itself.
Lyka: yeah, she's so loving.
Russ: uh-huh, she’s beautiful and awesome.
Russ: so my dear……
Russ: a lady who I was discussing the current,
future situation of the planet with last night,
talked about some kind of prophecy in which she saw
or had been for some reason been told that there
would be a war between the Sierras and the Rockies?
That’s not quite right I think but then anyway,
there’s two crosses between the war zone I guess and
we got one right here at Tallac and another one
that’s on the other range, cascades, that’s it.
Russ: now even if this happens, we're in fine shape
Russ: as far as defensible but the question comes up
how do you know beforehand that you will perform
fine in the field of duty?
Lyka: you don’t.
Russ: you don’t?
Lyka: you don’t.
Russ: okay. Now are you aware that there is a belief
down here that many people have their soul animals….
Russ: that they respond well to a certain animal,
that that animal kind of is symbolic of that person.
Russ: what would you say your soul animal is?
Russ: okay. Now see me, I get mine as the dolphin.
Lyka: uh-huh, why the dolphin?
Russ: well playful, loving, serious when has to
Russ: and a certain amount of, you could call it
psychic but it’s the wrong word.
Lyka: I think I know what you mean.
Russ: intuition maybe or whatever.
Lyka: now, why do you think I have the tigress?
Russ: well, just from your basic what you do, what
you’re almost bred for…..
Lyka: uh-huh. I wouldn’t say I was bred for it.
Russ: well it’s no accident that do what you do.
Russ: I mean your past lives must have directed you
in this particular area that you channeled your
energies into isn’t it?
Lyka: I don’t know, I don’t know, it’s too early for
me to have access.
Russ: still, I mean it’s just a logical conclusion.
I don’t get access to mine either but I can look at
your life now and do such.
Lyka: yeah, obviously I was very, very ferocious at
Russ: I agree, I agree.
Lyka: I still am very ferocious.
Russ: competitive, ferocious…..
Lyka: uh-huh, honor bound, protective.......
Lyka: determined, yes.
Russ: so I would…..I mean it would point in that
direction. I would almost say probably a male life
or two where you were in that same role.
Lyka: probably yes, probably.
(Ed. note: we already know from a previous session
that she was General George S. Patton in her last
Russ: so, I would say the tigress
would fit right in along with that general scheme
that we’re working on here.
Russ: what color tigress?
Lyka: probably something like a……
Russ: Tia’s hunting colors?
Lyka: yeah, Tia’s hunting colors would work but
that’s not quite what I had in mind. Kind of red and
brown and black striped.
Russ: hmm, beautiful.
Russ: and when you’re on a mission or something……..
Russ: do you have this sort of mental image that is
part of you then?
Lyka: I’d sooner not fight but if I have to I will.
Russ: right. Well let’s say you’re on patrol…..
Russ: okay? Hostile environment right? What part of
you emulates that tigress
aspect that you’re talking about, hearing?
Russ: what about stealth?
Lyka: stealth, yes.
Lyka: cautious as possible, listen to everything.
One, two, three step, stop, listen.
Lyka: one, two, three step, stop, listen.
Russ: this comes from your training?
Lyka: uh-huh. One, two, three sound, stay absolutely
still, hold the position you’re in, absolutely still
Russ: so it’s a focusing of your attention.
Lyka: uh-huh, yes, very much.
Russ: upon what you're doing, there’s no room for….
Lyka: for error. I wish I had Tia’s hearing
capability and the ability to distinguish that snap
of a twig, "is that somebody behind me that’s in my
patrol just stepping on a twig or was that maybe
some animal stepping on a twig or somebody else?"
Russ: can’t you get a technological breakthrough on
something like that? We can down here where we can
enhance our hearing a couple hundred percent of
Lyka: yes but it’s the bulkiness.
Russ: the stuff we have looks like a pair of
Lyka: it’s bulky.
Lyka: I like to be as light as possible with stuff
that will not go wrong.
Russ: so like an infrared with a hearing enhancer
would just be too much for….
Russ: what about at night, you like just going
straight bare-eyed, bare-eared?
Lyka: no, we do wear night vision goggles if we're
in a real hostile environment.
Lyka: if we're not, it depends on where we are on
patrol. I’ve only been on two patrols and both of
them the technology wise, they were up there and we
did wear them. However, I’ve had people in my
platoon tell me that they’ve been to planets where
technology wise, they don’t have that kind of
capability and you go bare-eyed because using
superior equipment really does change the balance
and we're not there to change the balance in favor
of the group that we're honor bound to, we're there
to free up individuals that may affect that change.
Russ: how do you tell the difference whether you'll
affect it or not? Isn't that a paradox?
Lyka: by study.
Russ: I don’t know, it’s a tough call. It sounds
like the prime directive being worked on from "Star
Lyka: no not really, it's because we're honor bound
to lend aid, we cannot lend superior equipment. We
are there as scouts, supplying information, so on.
We don’t tell them how to use the information. For
example, we go over a hill, we're scattered around
and we come across a army that is prepping for an
attack. We make our way back and we say, "okay,
there’s an army on the other side of that hill,
they're 70,000 strong, they're approaching from the
East", we give them all the relevant information.
Russ: what kind of armament they're playing with?
Lyka: correct. But we don’t say, "okay, if you
engage from here or here, you’re going to achieve
the hand of surprise" or, "you're going to be able
to use the terrain as a better…."
Russ: so no sweeping, flanking motions from the
Lyka: no, we let them……if they want to do that,
that’s fine. We will fight within their ranks with
Russ: yeah, you could die that way though.
Lyka: so? We're fulfilling our oath.
Russ: hmm, I suppose.
Russ: me, I’d have a laser rifle with full infrared
Lyka: most the time we do.
Russ: I'd be like, “I’m taking full advantage of
Lyka: most the time, all the engagements that I’ve
been in, technology…..we use our standard equipment,
our breastplates and so on. We wear as much of our
protective gear to keep us alive as possible. We use
our swords. The stories of a daughter world that is
about the equivalent to your 1300s.......
Lyka: and we use our laser swords with the laser
Russ: oh really?
Russ: oh man.
(Lyka suddenly has to leave so fast she can't say
(Tia jumps back on to usher in Kiri)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: she’s left already.
Tia: oh well. Okay, we’re getting low or towards
the end I think, how much time do we have left?
Russ: you got about ten minutes.
Tia: okay, I’ll put her on.
(Kiri joins the channeling
session in a perky mood to finish the night out)
Russ: hi Kiri.
Kiri: how’s it going?
Russ: theoretically, better than last week eh?
Kiri: oh yeah.
Russ: well, what’s up baby?
Kiri: oh nothing much, nothing much. Yes, Karra is
up to no good, I do know what she’s up to.
Russ: well anything Karra does is for good.
Kiri: oh yes, yes.
Russ: anyway, the ability to maintain our survival
Russ: needs to be focused on a little bit more I
think in the coming weeks of the channeling
Kiri: yes, I think so too.
Russ: research as you get a chance and come across
anything interesting, keep it in mind and bring it
to session with you.......
Kiri: oh of course, of course, I will.
Russ: and then you and I and others can work on
Russ: from that point.
Kiri: yes, we will work on that and we can work on
it together as a unit.
Kiri: there is lots that we can do. I for example
this morning had some free time, went down to see
Lyka, Lyka wasn’t there….
Kiri: got talking to her fencing instructor….
Kiri: I want to try something out with you.
Russ: okay, good.
Kiri: when the tape finishes.
Russ: a little fencing practice?
Russ: okay, if you wish.
Kiri: oh, I wish.
Russ: fair enough, works for me.
Kiri: and you will see, I’ll explain what
happened. We linked minds, he’s a coercive talent.
Russ: oh excellent.
Kiri: so we traded information.
Russ: so he now has a loop in sexual feelings?
Kiri: uh-huh and in return…..
Russ: how did I know that?
Kiri: in return he programmed into me some moves.
Russ: sure, glad to love.
(Kiri gives us a suitable evil chuckle)
Kiri: we’ll see.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: anyway, I’m going to stop by, we’ve got a
meeting with Treen and the owners of the bar and
set up and measuring and stuff so we’re going to
be there for about an hour’s so, two hours maybe.
Russ: that will be fun.
Kiri: and then we’ve got……it’s only going to take
about a half an hour and then we’ve got in the
backroom of the bar........we’ve got the girls
that are going to be dancing and the guys that are
going to be dancing.
Russ: quite a party.
Kiri: uh-huh, this is for the races.
Russ: oh, okay.
Kiri: yeah, they’ll be dancing, they’re going to
put on a show for us tonight, see what they've got
so far. Yeah, it’s going to be fun, I’ve got a lot
planned tonight and Tia is going to come along and
help as she’s on the committee as I’m not on the
Russ: ahh well.
Kiri: I'm the defending, brainze medalist.
Kiri: brainze....uh-huh, bronze....bronze. Well
it's not my language.
Russ: I know. Hmm…
Russ: so, where does your work take you right now,
what are you doing for work?
Kiri: I’m still working on the channeling system.
Russ: I thought you would had that whipped that
out by now.
Kiri: there’s a lot to it. I’ve got one complete
wall unit finished and there’s two more to do.
Russ: oh there is?
Kiri: yeah and I’ve got to link them and I’ve been
working on it for about a year and a half now.
Kiri: but there are technical difficulties and I
can’t fire up……I can run tests on it right? But
it’s now totally incompatible with the system that
we're using right at the moment.
Russ: hmmm. So you need to find the compatibility
or just work on a brand-new system altogether?
Kiri: I’m working on a brand-new system. When I
finish the whole entire system, all three panels
Then I will start to test it. Yeah, for all's I
know I could fire it up and the three units won’t
be talking to each other.
Kiri: which may take time……..you all right?
Russ: uh-huh, I’m working on a question you asked
Kiri: okay and what is the question?
Russ: the question is concerning the engineering
aspects of all that we’ve learned and regards to
our survival aspects and so I’m working now on the
process of the rain barrels…..
Russ: and collecting from the rain runoff into I
would say closed barrels with only an opening for
the water being admitted with the opening opened
up to get the water out.
Kiri: uh-huh, pretty simple arrangement. The
guttering, you angle just ever so slightly, you
Russ: we have to build the guttering?
Kiri: very simple. You build the guttering, okay
you angle it so it channels it down, you put a
cover over the top, a grate of some kind to stop
the pine needles and stuff from flowing into there
Russ: grate over the gutter.
Kiri: grate over the gutter, the water goes down
the pipe into the barrel right? The barrel is
totally sealed. You can put a piece of wood on top
with a brick on top, whatever or you can get a
barrel that has a fliptop that you can lift up or
whatever but on one side you have a hole where it
goes in, something about yea big, you have a pipe
going in there bingo, real easy but I took away
learning experience and I do apologize. Okay, now
let’s think on how we can improve that and use the
Kiri: for something a little bit more. Let us
say……..okay let’s go up the back there right? What
can we put there that would be a useful tool
during the summer to cut down on the hot water
Russ: you can put solar panels in.
Kiri: uh-huh okay. What’s the cheapest way to do
Russ: it would be to use black plastic…….
Russ: and PVC piping.
Kiri: so, what do we do?
Russ: you would run the water that’s being
collected off from the rain…..
Russ: in underneath the PVC piping……..
Russ: or into black plastic into PVC piping…….
Russ: which would then run into your…….
Kiri: storage unit.
Russ: which would be the rain buckets.
Kiri: not necessarily.
Russ: we don’t have storage unit though.
Kiri: you can make one.
Russ: out of what?
Kiri: well you can use a barrel, insulate it.
Russ: we already got two barrels out……
Russ: you mean a third barrel?
Kiri: uh-huh or what you can do is pump the water
in, once it’s full you can pump it up and around,
zigzag it down so it gets hot, gets to the bottom,
it goes back up, pumps back around and keeps on
pumping around increasing the heat. It should
almost be over.
Russ: let me check. We still got another 10
Kiri: oh. Yeah, so you would get barrels right?
Okay, this is how you do a efficient solar panel
right? You use a pump right? You pump it up, it
runs through right? Goes zigzagging all the way
down, goes back into the barrel right? Which means
you’re pumping hot water back into there right?
Which pumps it back up out, all the way back down
back into there increasing the heat. Now if you
have one panel right? That’s fine. Let us say you
pump it all the way up to the top and you have a
row of panels right?
Kiri: pressure will force it through and it gets
hotter and hotter, let’s say you have six panels,
three by two right?
Kiri: it goes all the way up, all the way down.
Next one, up, all the way down, up, all the way
down. All the way down the next one, all the way
down the next one, all the way down the next one
back into the barrel and it will be heated up by
the sun. Now because of the continuous cycle it
will get hotter and hotter and hotter.
Russ: that’s if we have it in a space where the
sun is shining all the time….
Russ: we don’t have that around here. The trees
being as they’re so tall…….
Kiri: yeah but that’s why you have……
Russ: most of the area’s in shade.
Kiri: yeah but it would maintain the heat, useful
heat for quite a while, especially if it’s
insulated. Now you can pump the rainwater in there
and you can use it for showering, you can use it
for watering the plants and so on but you can put
the hot water in there…….
Russ: yeah but the pump is going to be depending
Russ: what if you don’t have any?
Kiri: do it by hand crank or by wind or you use
solar panel again. Okay I’ve got an experiment for
Kiri: I want you to get a piece of curved plastic
or something curved right?
Russ: is it a tube or just curved plastic?
Kiri: half a tube, whatever.
Kiri: okay I want you to line it with aluminum
Kiri: I want you to find a focusing point. I want
you to run down through there a piece of clear
plastic or flexible plastic, whatever, tubing, I
want you to pump water down through there on a
cycle and see how hot it gets.
Russ: okay now the curved plastic, is that like
half of a tube or something?
Russ: half of a PVC?
Kiri: and you’re going to find the focusing point
on there right? And then we’re going to get you to
run water through it, set it up so it’s facing the
Russ: uh-huh, outside temperatures aren't going to
make a difference?
Russ: windchill will.
Kiri: no it won’t because it’s going to be out of
the wind because of the shape.
Russ: if you have freezing temperatures….
Russ: but a sun out, okay the water is not going
to get very hot.
Kiri: do you want to bet?
Russ: no because you’ll win but……
Kiri: I was about to say do you want to bet a case
Russ: oh right, no, I’ll pass. Basic economics
tells me you’re probably right on this point.
Kiri: uh-huh, basic physics. Now, how can you use
that piece of equipment I just described for you?
Russ: in the solar panels.
Kiri: uh-huh, okay…….
Russ: find the focusing point of the solar panels.
Kiri: that’s right. Okay, here’s another thing
that you might try to do. Okay, get again aluminum
foil in a curve, a dish this time, right? Find the
focusing point on that.
Russ: your cooking stove?
Russ: uh-huh, a natural progression.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, next one…….
Russ: what the hell?
Kiri: stop it for a second…….
THE TAPE ENDS