(Tia gets the night started that
was already well on its way)
Russ: ..........from a semi-sentient
computer in the year 2275.
Russ: and talking about this current
future as we look at it.
Russ: it wasn't mentioning economic
problems, it mentions mostly changes that will bring
about higher consciousness and a wonderful, joyous
place to live.
Tia: and from a semi-sentient computer
in twenty what?
Tia: 2275. So basically 122 years into
the future correct?
Russ: a little bit more than that but
Russ: it’s a ways.
Tia: that’s right yeah, 322 years. Okay,
so what’s it saying?
Russ: well it’s saying basically that
there will be this light and sound
technology that will provide energy in the future…..
Russ: and that will free up ourselves
from having to work for a living and we can devote
our time to more mental pursuits.
Tia: okay, from a semi-sentient
computer, is this a current computer?
Russ: no, this is a computer that will
Tia: oh, so they’re projecting what it
will theorize correct?
Russ: no, this is coming from the
computer itself, it just hasn’t been built yet.
Tia: I’m confused.
Russ: well according to it, it’s
channeling from the year 2275….
Russ: and it’s talking to us from that time frame
in our time frame which is right now.
Russ: and it’s explaining how we’re
going to be coming up and….
Tia: so you’re taking something from the
Tia: that is transmitting back in
Tia: from some point that hasn’t even
happened in your history yet?
Russ: right, future.
Russ: that’s what it says.
Tia: uh-huh, and is it channeling
through a person?
Russ: but yeah, lasers and sonics are
going to become a future power source…..
Russ: thereby bringing about an opulent
society I guess.
Tia: uh-huh, I see. Okay let us address
Tia: okay, a computer from the future
that is semi-sentient, semi being the operative
word. You can’t have something that is sometimes and
is sometimes not as far as I know. Either something
is or it isn’t. Resembling sentient, sentient
consciousness is what it’s saying.
Tia: okay, if something is semi-sentient
right? How can it theorize on what things will be
when it’s not even fully sentient?
Russ: well according to it, it’s using
part of the consciousness and will of its creators.
Russ: the people who created it which
provides the sentient form of its address.
Tia: and does it say how great and
powerful it is?
Russ: no, no, it just mentions the fact
that it’s not a spirit operated computer that will
come after it.
Tia: uh-huh, okay now let us take
something from the future as supposedly transmitted
okay? And I’m just hypothesizing as we're using big
words tonight and the way I see it is, something
from a possibility is transmitting from a possible
future to a past. Now, as we have learned, there are
many, many alternate realities, many, many
possibilities and for something to transmit from a
possibility back in time to a point, it could be
transmitting not only to all possibilities but it
could be transmitting from any possibility. Now, as
the future is always constantly in motion, how can
this be so?
Russ: well according to Einstein, time
is continuously happening past, present and future
all at the same time........
Russ: so therefore according to this
computer, it’s operating on a time frame that is
taking place right now……
Russ: but in the future.
Russ: and speaking to a lady who is now
in the present.
Tia: or the past.
Russ: or the past.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, it sounds very
confusing to me and when anything sounds confusing,
you should question it.
Russ: oh I do.
Tia: uh-huh. Now I’m not saying that it
is possible or impossible, I am saying that you have
something from a possible future transmitting
backwards in time wishing to do what?
Russ: enlighten us on our future.
Tia: which means there’s a flaw here.
Russ: well it says that its
enlightenment could affect our future.
Tia: which means?
Russ: it might either destroy its own
self by telling us this stuff…..
Russ: or bring it to a sooner point or
nothing could change and it could happen the way
that it is right now for it.
Russ: three different possibilities.
Tia: three different possibilities,
there’s a lot more actually but let’s look those
three possibilities, two of them are totally
unacceptable to the computer.
Tia: okay? Which is it destroys itself,
it doesn’t advance anything or it advances beyond
its capability. The first and the latter are
unacceptable for any computer. Ours up here right?
Are instructed not to look into future events
without specification by us. We tell them the
criteria in which to work in and they look at
projections which is not predictions, they’re
projections with known factors. For example, let’s
take something very simple and unsophisticated and
uncomplicated. You condense water in an atmosphere
of a planet and precipitation will happen, that is a
projection with a certain amount of probability. It
is not a prediction. Cooling of an atmosphere with
water vapor condensing in the atmosphere will create
precipitation, it is a known fact. And what occurs
with the data that is fed in such as percentile of
vapor, percentage of moisture, humidity…..not
humidity…..global temperatures, curves etc. creates
certain environments which makes the precipitation
happen. So, for a computer to channel backwards in
time and say that it is relaying this information is
a risky proposition for the computer because it
could cease to be, that is unacceptable for a
computer. Computers no matter how advanced they get,
main goal is to do Porky Pig impersonations and
stutter. Their primar........
Tia: their main objective is……
(Russ now breaks into a coughing fit)
Tia: you feeling better now dear?
Russ: yes dear.
Tia: okay, their primary goal is to
analyze information and data given to them and to
relay that information. When anything says that it
is relaying information from the future to the past,
you have to wonder what is the objective, what is
the plan, what is the goal? So, what is the
objective of the computer, what is its primary goal?
Russ: well it doesn’t say.
Tia: it’s probably in there in the
article somewhere hidden away…..
Russ: I really didn’t look hard enough….
Russ: I was just perusing it before you
came on. Well here’s another scenario for you……
Russ: all right? What would happen let’s
say we wanted to channel to the past?
Russ: when we get there in some 300
years, let’s say we want to channel back 300 years
to 1698 or seven……
Russ: okay? And inform the people in
1697 of what’s going to happen in the next decade
coming up or in the 1700’s?
Tia: but for them it hasn’t happened
Russ: for them it hasn’t happened, it’s
happened for us.
Russ: now in the first place, A, we
can’t do it.
Russ: we don’t have the technology for
it and even if we did, would we do it? I mean that
would be crazy.
Tia: because it would be affecting a
Russ: it would be interference.
Russ: I mean for this computer to do so,
I can’t in the first place conceive of how it could
Russ: and I don’t even know if even you
guys with all your technology would be able to know
how to channel back 300 years in the past.
Russ: so let’s say at that point in the
future it's actually achieved, the ability to do so…
Russ: why channel back to right now? Why
not channel back to a little while before it, giving
the makers the lottery numbers or something?
Tia: that is exactly the point right
there, why do it? Why do it indeed? It’s a risky
proposition and due to the fact that so much can go
wrong with the information.
Russ: yeah, it’s like you’re playing
with your own destiny.
Russ: unless of course you are of the
persuasion that destiny cannot be changed by
affecting your past due to the fact that you’ve
already lived that, your future.
Tia: now this is something that is out
of my field really, you'll need talk about time
manipulation to the experts, I’m not.
Russ: well it sounds more
Tia: uh-huh, it does, it sounds very
science-fictiony but there again one man’s
science-fiction is another man’s belly laugh.
Science-fiction can often turn into science fact.
Tia: take for example your popular
entertainment of “Star Trek” right? And the one that
was made in the late '60’s early '70’s?
Tia: and the flip phone that they walked
Tia: that’s fact now isn’t it?
Tia: okay, let us look at a few other
things that they did. Being able to scan a body and
see what was wrong with it, it’s pretty close to
science fact right now apart from they're a lot
Tia: the MRI’s.
Russ: we still couldn’t transport, we
don’t have transporters yet but that'd be nice.
Tia: transporters are risky propositions
Tia: stripping down somebody’s molecular
nature and sending it in a beam form, I’ve been
through one once. Wasn’t awake when it happened and
I didn’t see the humor in it. Everybody else did but
that’s besides the point except for Kiri and Mark,
they didn’t see the humor in it either.
Russ: when did this happen?
Tia: a while ago.
Russ: why don’t I remember that?
Tia: maybe Mark didn’t tell you. Anyway
what happened was that they basically teleported us
asleep in bed into the main hangar.
Tia: uh-huh, so we woke up in the main
Russ: oh yes I do remember that.
Tia: in bed. I didn’t think it was very
Russ: well yeah, you were on the giving
Tia: uh-huh, and you know how I sleep.
Russ: hmm, (chuckles) that’s cute, who
Tia: oh, some technicians as a joke.
Russ: well, you know those technicians.
Tia: they get mindlessly bored.
Russ: but basically yeah, it sounds like
someone just wanting to just put something in
because it sounds good.
Tia: uh-huh, they should probably…..
Russ: now here’s another thing though,
okay she’s channeling this information….
Russ: now who’s to say that she’s
actually channeling a 2275 computer?
Tia: who’s to say that she’s not?
Russ: well nobody but the fact is that
there might be some other possibilities that she’s
actually channeling something that’s using that
Russ: for to give out information….
Russ: strictly on the fact that…..I
don't know why but.......
Tia: oh there’s lots of different
Russ: right but I mean there’s nothing
to say she’s actually doing that.
Russ: it’s a stretch of the imagination
no matter what.
Tia: uh-huh. It’s more than likely that
she believes she is channeling.
Tia: and it is more than possible that
she is being contacted but by what, for what
Russ: or is she getting all the
information correct or is she throwing in some of
their own perceptions possibly?
Tia: possibly yes.
Russ: maybe she read too many Heinlein
Tia: uh-huh. Yes, to quote one of your
poets, “there are stranger things in heaven and
earth than you have dream't of in your philosophy
Russ: hmm, so for now the jury’s out.
Tia: uh-huh well I’ve ruled out
by my own argument the fact that it is a computer.
Tia: uh-huh, but if she believes that
it's a computer then let her believe it as long as
the information is good and sound. It doesn’t matter
the source as long as the information is good.
Russ: yeah but the information’s that
honey coated future that all the basic channels all
Russ: it keeps people from preparing for
anything that might be less than that.
Tia: correct. Now the thing is that all
the comments and things that we have made over the
years, over the five years correct?
Tia: there’s been some honey coated,
well not honey coated, there’s been some bright,
sunny patches that we predicted and some dark,
negative patches that we predicted.
Tia: out of.......let me scratch that
and say projected. Out of the projections right? The
ones that have happened have been both.
Tia: we don’t pull punches, we don’t do,
“it’s going to be all right tomorrow.” (she start
singing) “The sun will come out tomorrow”, we don’t
do that. We tell it as it is, we don’t gloss over
anything. If it’s going to be horrible and nasty
tomorrow and it’s going to rain tomorrow, we’ll tell
you in a manner of speaking, I’m using the weather
as an analogy. If it’s going to be bright and sunny
and the sun will come out tomorrow, it will be as we
projected. So our projections, we do a mixture of
short-range, medium-range and long-range and out of
those projections I think we have a pretty good
success rate. What would you estimate it to be?
Russ: well at least 30%.
Tia: at least, seriously.
Russ: I don’t know, 80%?
Tia: I don’t know, I’m asking for an
estimate, I don’t keep track.
Russ: 80% sounds good.
Russ: always like the 80’s.
Tia: yeah okay, so by your estimates
Tia: okay now, looking at that and
looking at all these bright, cheerful, bubbly
possibilities that everybody else is talking about,
there’s something a little bit worrying when
everybody talks about it being bright and cheerful
and bubbly and the sun coming out tomorrow.
"Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow" but like the old
song, tomorrow is always a day away. With these
projections by people of bright and cheerful and
everything, it’s worrying that people don’t prepare
for the doom and gloom because you have both. Having
both is all part of learning. If everything was
bright and cheerful and bubbly, nothing would be
learned but being both, both night and day, good and
bad, negative and positive, you have a wide variety
of experiences from which to learn as much as you
possibly can and in so learning, you advance. Some
of your planet’s greatest advancements have come
from great, great adversity. So, to take away all
the adversity and make things bright and cheerful
and bubbly, you take away the zest for life. You
take away the zest for life and you have control
over those people.
Tia: if we so desired, we could make it
perfect for you but however that would be
contravening the agreements of the Brotherhood of
Light. We would be taking away your learning
experiences. The learning experiences that you, your
race needs, every race needs. To deal with
development, you need those negative and positive
experiences. You see?
Tia: nice little dissertation there on
Russ: thank you dear.
Tia: you’re welcome, any questions?
Tia: okay, do you have your shoes on?
Russ: no, I can get them on though, why?
Tia: you might need them in a few. Next
speaker, the honorable base commander Omal. Just
(Omal finishes up
this side at his most informative self)
Omal: greetings of felicitations Russ and how are
Russ: very well Omal, thank you.
Omal: good, good, good, good. Okay,
since I have not had the opportunity to talk with
you since the visit, let us go over the visit.
Russ: right, one thing though, isn’t it
actually the honorable commander of the Hades Base?
Omal: it could be, it depends on the
situation and the protocol necessary.
Russ: hmm, I’ve got to get this stuff
Omal: okay let us look at protocol after
I have covered the visit as it is being referred to
up here. Okay, Leonedies will be a guest speaker.
Omal: he will be a guest speaker under a
pseudonym. Let us take his name, Leonedies Tanaka
and let us play around with it a little bit and see
what we can come up with or what you can come up
Russ: well he actually suggested using
his middle name.
Omal: which is?
Omal: Daniel, isn’t that one of Mark's
Omal: okay, that is acceptable. Okay
Monka, short, precise, may not be usable due to the
fact of its short, precise nature.
Russ: I might put it in just for the
fact that it’s newsworthy.
Omal: yes. Lady Ashtar-Athena,
definitely. Sananda, definitely, humorous comment
Russ: joke too huh?
Omal: joke too.
Omal: because it shows that Sanada does
have a sense of humor, the higher you go, humor is
just as important.
Russ: it brings up another point too
which is people will not believe it’s Sananda due to
his joking nature and that’s quite contrary to the
normal channeling sessions you'll hear from Sananda.
Russ: so therefore it teaches a lesson
that in belief….
Russ: and faith.
Omal: correct. You can put down that the
joke was used as an analogy on bravery. One of the
joys of being a base commander is
knowing how to manipulate things, something that you
too must learn.
Russ: working on it.
Omal: manipulation will be a topic we
will discuss shortly. Okay, President Tanaka, we
won’t use his full title as he is only
President-elect at the moment so it would be Tanaka,
Kiri and Karra’s father. Ashtar was brief I
Russ: very brief.
Omal: Korton did not channel, I was very
brief. Idea for the release of this. In gold
lettering, special edition. If that could be put up
at the top, further down, direct link to that
Russ: you want it to have its own
Omal: if it is possible.
Russ: we could do a whole…..
Omal: well we have to make this special
because it is special to draw attention to it.
Russ: well what we could do is, we could
do a section below. We got the headlines, then we
have the news….
Russ: and then I could just add in a
whole new section there before we get to the actual
Omal: correct, the hall and the archives
and all of that.
Russ: right, we'll cut in a section and
put in a couple horizontal rulers there…
Russ: and put in special Christmas
Omal: correct. Now an idea might be to
do the background for that section in gold, is that
Russ: sure, anything’s possible but it’s
not going look very gold though.
Russ: we can’t get that metallic sheen
Omal: hmm, that is unfortunate.
Russ: well, I’ve never seen a webpage
with a metallic sheen behind it, if I could I just
Russ: I’ll look around and see what I
can pull off.
Omal: if not, just a plain background.
Russ: well I’ve got...there's a paint
program that’s got that I might be able to work
Omal: yes it has to be different for a
reason to draw attention to itself.
Omal: okay? I feel as base commander
that it is important to draw attention to this, that
special edition in gold lettering at the top, a link
to it and then once the month has passed that it
goes into the regular archives without the link and
so on with a regular background.
Russ: under the guest section there?
Omal: but as this is a special edition,
it has to be special.
Omal: I am sorry to dump
this extra work on you.
Russ: oh Omal, I love this extra work,
this is why if I was up there I would just go, "no
Omal: and why did your aura fluctuate?
Omal: I believe the tone is sarcasm?
Russ: no, it’s facetiousness, it’s much
Omal: a sarcastic, facetious humor.
Russ: no I really don’t mind.
Russ: it’s just right now I can’t
conceive of it because I don’t know the technology
behind doing the gold but I’m going to work on it.
Omal: okay now protocol, protocol and
behavior. Formality, this is a little bit out of my
normal ramblings. You may say that at times I do the
inane ramblings of a confused base
Russ: I’ve never heard them but I
suppose I’ll take your word for it.
Omal: it is a attempt at humor Russ.
Russ: ahh of course.
Omal: sometimes you do not catch my
Omal: as has been stated in the past, my
sense of humor is extremely dry.
Russ: well sometimes it's really good.
Omal: yes, it is even drier than Mark’s
Russ: it is.
Omal: much drier. Okay, now let me start
pontificating. Okay protocol, protocol serves a very
important function, it establishes seniority and
station in life. The station in life being the
objective goals of individuals where they want to
be, where they are, to where they want to go. In
these protocol bound situations, the protocol has
been designed over a long period of time so that no
one is insulted and everyone is paid correct respect
according to their station in life with the
statement on their possibility of advancement. Take
the Honorable Madam Ambassador, formally Lady Karra
Tanaka Hatfield. It is stated the Ambassador from
Hades Base, the Honorable Lady Karra Tanaka, full
titles. This is paying her the respect. When you
talk to her, Madam Ambassador, it is
all respect. Any time it is formal, formality must
play a role. When you are with her in a formal
environment, you must be formal and she must be
formal. If she is the hostess of the event and there
is no one higher than her, she is the abiding
authority, she is the person that everyone pays
respect to. However, let us say the former or the
current president of Sirius is at the function and
she is the highest ranking person, then everyone
pays respect to her. Let us say there is to be a
holo taken of all the high officials present. She
would stand in the center, to her right the person
hosting the event, Madam Ambassador. To the
right of Madam Ambassador would be
her bond mate. To the left would be the bond mate of
President and then everybody would be distributed
according to their rank on either side. But the
center of everything is the person who is of highest
rank. It is very structured in that way. It is
something that has been on Sirius if I am correct
for close to 150,000 years and it has worked well.
Why is something in existence so long? Because it
works. If something doesn’t work, it doesn’t stay
very long. If something is
around for a long time, you have to wonder and
question why and the majority of the time it
is a simple answer, because it works. Protocol is
designed to work, to behave in an official capacity
with respect to the appropriate people and reactions
to the appropriate people. Occasionally you get a
rebellious person, these
people are tolerated in these events. They are
smiled upon as entertainment, “isn’t that
entertaining? Oh how charming.” So protocol serves a
function and it is what?
Russ: oh, it’s for......to correctly
show respect to those who have worked to achieve the
positions they are in.
Omal: correct and it is also to
recognize their achievements.
Omal: okay, that covers that. Pause the
tape please, go and get your……..
(after a short pause, Omal walking
Mark’s body has brought me outside for a rare lesson
he and I had done once before during a channeling
session Mark and I held on a camping trip with just
the two of us)
Russ: it’s on.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson.
Russ: we are on the extent.
Omal: okay, astronomy lesson. Okay, if
you look, you have the moon.
Russ: got it.
Omal: okay now, in a direct line to the
moon up high through the trees you see a red,
non-flickering object correct?
Omal: that is where we are channeling
Omal: okay, if you go across and you
should see through the trees there another
non-flickering light, slightly gold in nature.
Actually that’s blue, that is…..
Russ: yeah, straight there right?
Omal: yes that is Jupiter. Okay,
unfortunately due to the trees…..ahh, you can just
see it through the trees. Okay, if you look up high
you have Saturn, look directly up.
Omal: that is a special globular
Russ: you mean that little
cloudy thing there right above us?
Russ: there’s three stars right there,
looks like Orion’s belt almost.
Omal: no, there’s a lot more than three
stars there. I count from here with the eyes I am
using, one, two, three, four, five, six…..
Russ: oh there we go.
Omal: seven, eight….
Russ: is that the Pleiades?
Russ: ahh, beautiful.
Omal: but further on, through the
Pleiades on the other side of the globular cluster
that you cannot see is a special place that is now a
Omal: let us return inside so you do not
freeze. You are coughing.
Russ: just the cold in my throat. So
what is the special place?
Omal: that is now a nebula?
Russ: yeah, that's your old home planet?
Omal: that once was my home planet.
(it no longer exists, he's that old)
Russ: ahhh, okay……(after getting sat
down)......yeah that’s refreshing.
Omal: yes I thought it would be
Omal: a quick astronomy lesson for you.
Omal: okay, when was the last time we
gave you an astronomy lesson?
Russ: oh when we went camping.
Russ: when we saw Taal’s ship.
Omal: correct. Unfortunately he is not
as punctual as one would like.
Russ: oh, he is supposed to be here
Russ: oh. Oh, you mean flying across in
Russ: oh. Oh well, it was a shot.
Omal: well, punctuality can be sometimes
a weak point of pilots.......
Omal: due to other circumstances
Russ: no problem.
Omal: okay astronomy, the importance of
stars. Now, certain visible things within the night
sky, unfortunately the lead was not long enough to
take you on a full trip to explain. What we were
looking for was Orion, the hunter, Osiris and below
Osiris is a very bright star which is?
Omal: correct. These two pointers tell
you something important, they tell you the time of
year. With the configuration of stars it tells you
the time. Orion and Sirius in the position that they
are with the three planets that were pointed out
tell you the time of year and their relationship if
you know tells you the exact date.
Omal: how does this work? Well, your
planets orbit your sun and they will be in only
certain positions in certain alignments once every
so often. Now by measuring the movement of the
surrounding stars in relationship to them tells you
the time of year and the exact date because the
configuration will appear only once, that exact
configuration. So astronomy is not only being able
to look at the night sky, it tells you the time, it
tells you whereabouts your planet is in the galactic
disk. For example, on December the 9th, 1997 Osiris
was in night sky flanked by Jupiter, Mars and close
to the moon Saturn. Knowing the distance from Saturn
to the moon in your night sky how far it measures,
knowing how far Saturn is from Mars and Mars is from
the moon and knowing how far Jupiter is from Mars,
Saturn and the moon, all three of those, gives you
the information on the time. Knowing what else is in
the night sky gives you the time of year, knowing
where the constellations are to present at that time
of year gives you the exact date. Now if we were to
go back out and stand exactly where we were and look
up at the night sky, you would have noticed that
there has been movement. Only maybe half of a degree
but movement nonetheless. That is the ticking of the
clock, how far the moon has moved away or towards
Saturn is another indication of time. See we’re now
narrowing it down into minutes. Noting how far the
moon had traveled in the night sky now brings it
down to seconds. You see, astronomy is more than
able to help you navigate, it helps you tell the
Russ: I want to insert something real
quick. Recently I heard somebody tell me that there
is a Stonehenge-like construction that’s been found
in Britain that's much bigger than Stonehenge……
Russ: and was completely buried.
Russ: and it’s complete, it’s not
destroyed in any way.
Omal: unfortunately that is half-truths,
it is destroyed and it wasn’t destroyed by anybody
in particular and it is not that far away from
Russ: what’s the story on it then?
Omal: basically it rotted.
Omal: it was called Woodhenge,
wood being easier to work with. Same configuration,
just thinner and larger.
Russ: so it was a predecessor to
Omal: they were present at about the
Russ: I mean was one used as a model for
the other maybe?
Omal: no, one served one purpose and the
other served another purpose.
Omal: different times of the year,
Omal: but, as astronomers, as an
astronomy.......what is it tonight with words? One
is confused by that...........explain Stonehenge in
astronomical terms is quite correct. It is both a
lunar and a solar calendar. It is a common
misconception that it is purely one, it is both, it
is used for both purposes. The history of the
nations that worshiped there changes over a
period of time so that it was remodeled, rearranged
and used differently in different points of the
history. Much like the burial practices in ancient
Russ: hmm, so essentially what they call
the sacrificial stone which is the center of
Stonehenge, could either be that or it could
actually be a spot from which to chart the planets
Russ: a sitting spot so that it is a
constant point to measure the distance the planets
have traveled within the night sky.
Omal: correct. It is very unlikely that
it would be offered or used as a human sacrifice
spot although it was not unknown at times of great
stress, of great difficulty, however that would not
be its primary use.
Russ: right. And the same would be said
for Woodhenge also.
Omal: correct but let’s get back to the
functions of Stonehenge....
Omal: not as a sacrificial site but as
an observatory to observe the procession in the
night sky of key stars and constellations……..