Archivist Notes: A rare disagreement
came up over the title of this
podcast with myself wanting "Pluck
Yew" and Karra wanting "A Healer's Secret"
though reluctantly as the healer's secret isn't something she wanted a lot of
focus on but it was better than what
I offered. In the end, 6th dimensional
class won out over 3rd
dimensional crass, go
figure. On note about this
session that made it
stand out over
previous podcasts was
that it could have
been recorded last
Friday instead of 1998
for how relevant the
topics discussed are
to the news anyone can
read about daily. It's
not often that we're
transcribing a tape
where we have to
remind ourselves the
topic is about Bill
Clinton and not Donald
effect of the
only it was to
teach us that
life in their
world is not
so much different
than life is in
ours. On that
note, it's old
the surface of
Our ring mistress Tia starts the night off with some back-and-forth teasing between her and our old friend Skip. Then things get serious as she goes over some wild fluctuations and their causes pointing to the recently named Asian Flu which decimated markets in the East at that time. We turn to the political next as impeachment talk is in the air over Bill Clinton and his many flaws in judgement. The previous night Bill Clinton made his very famous speech to the American people that he indeed been involved in an improper affair. Tia reminds us of what the founding fathers had to say on the matter before circling back the stock market again. The trail an investor's money takes on its path to profit or loss is examined before Tia makes way for Omal who is about to circle us once more into the mess that became the end of the Clinton administration. You can tell he has been made very aware of the circumstances taking place and offers an insight into how the markets were responding to the news which may cause a bit of deja vu upon listening. We move on from there to sacred geometry and recent articles about how there were predictions of the future written into the measurements of the pyramids of Egypt. while he shoots down that theory he does confirm the fact that humans built the pyramids. It the source of the plans used to build the Great Pyramid that he gives a tantalyzing hint as well as a second hint that hieroglyphs used to cover the outside of it and that they can still be found in a place viewable to the public. All of this builds into a very informative history lesson into the English language and how it came to be the most widely spoken language on the planet. This from someone who watched it grow firsthand from its very humble roots. He gets us to the end of side one by illustrating for us how a language can change over the centuries and uses an insult from a famous battle where "Pluck Yew" was yelled out to the opposing forces. It's pretty easy to see how that phrase has evolved over time.
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(Tia's boisterous mood gets the channeling session started.)
Tia: I can smell something burning. Oh sorry is that your brain Skip?
(Skip starts laughing.)
Skip: you be nice.
Tia: I am being nice…..
Skip: no you’re not.
Tia: I could say other things about it.
Skip: you just never mind now, like I said, be nice........
(Tia growls a bit in fun.)
Skip: or I’ll get you.
Shane: that was fun.
Skip: you don’t want me to get you.
Tia: ohhhh, I’ve got retractable claws
and besides, anything that you do to Mark’s
body doesn’t affect me.
Skip: I know that.
Shane: well grandpa can say some pretty funny stuff when he gets mad.
Tia: sticks and stones may break my bones but worms will never hurt me. So, okay, where do I start?
Skip: I don’t know, where do you want to start tonight?
Tia: where do you think I should start Russ?
Russ: I think you should start with our weird stock market lately.
Tia: yes, yes, yes, weird stock market hmmm, why is it doing what it’s doing? Well it’s fluctuating up and down, up and down. Now first of all point of interest, there has never been a crash in the summer or the spring, it always happens in the fall or early winter. To look at why your stock market is doing what it’s doing is to look at external influences. For example, let us look in Asia. Well the Japanese market is doing some very interesting things. The actual one that’s doing some very weird dropping is the Hang Seng in Hong Kong. I seem to remember at the start of the year it was at around 10,000. At the moment it is in the mid 7,000's. That is approximately a quarter of its value, 25%, history, gone....poof. Of course it was also highly overvalued as well. The Japanese market is also doing some wild fluctuations. They’re trying to enact certain fiscal problems……..enact certain fiscal policies to counter fiscal problems which can be traced right back to the mid to late '80's when they went through their phase of buying everything, everything and anything. Now looking at those two markets you can see a certain effect occurring because as you track across the globe from where the Asian flu……..let’s call it the Asian flu as that seems to be a good catchphrase and one that I heard the other day………the Asian flu starts in Asia, it is now affecting the European markets and from time to time your market. Now if a market can lose 25% of its value in less than seven months, what does that hold for your market that is already lost……well actually it gained back some of its loss………it had lost 10% of its value, it’s now 9%? It’s only 15% to go……well 16% to go until it has lost a quarter of its value or a quarter of what it has made which would be about 2,500 points. It’s already lost at one point 800 points on its value. So what is going on? Well, there is numerous factors contributing to this problem, not least is wild spending. Investing in other countries with the currencies are shaky. Now, the ruble in Russia has been devalued, symptom of the Asian flu. The fact that investors rushed into the Soviet……the former Soviet Union after there was problems in Asia and pulled out and they helped to depress the markets in Asia. In turn, they’re now depressing the markets in Eastern Europe. It’s only a matter of time before they start to pull out of markets in Europe. Once this happens there is only one market left or one major, major market left that the investors have left go. My opinion is that the market will climb again. It won’t get up to 9,300 mark where it held its record but it will climb again until late in the autumn or the fall. Then is the time to watch, people are already talking about that the bull market is turning to a bear market, these rumors are spreading. Now, if there is signs of inflation, the Federal Reserve will increase the interest rate which will help to depress the market further. Okay, that’s the market, that’s what's happening from Wall Street to Hades Base. Okay let’s move along. Yes, Bill Clinton. Okay let’s go over some interesting points. First of all a convicted felon cannot serve as president of the United States, is that correct?
Tia: secondly, if President Clinton…..
Russ: a convicted felon can’t run for president of the United States.
Tia: and he cannot serve as president either. Now, with the admission of the affair……the improper affair with Monica Lewinsky, he is admitting he committed perjury. Perjury is a felony when you lie to a governmental official regardless of who you are, that’s a felony. Which means that President Clinton is an admitted felon. If he is tried whilst in office as an admitted felon, they don’t need to do impeachment processes.
Skip: well I thought that was already in the works?
Tia: it’s a possibility, nobody has decided whether or not they’re going to impeach him.
Skip: I keep hearing rumors of it.
Tia: that’s all they are, rumors and speculation.
Skip: there was a couple of predictions by different psychics more or less….
Skip: that August 24th will be cap on this thing.
Tia: maybe, maybe not. If they get 51%
of both houses to say that he should be impeached,
then he will be impeached.
Tia: 50%? Uh-uh, it’s got to be a majority, even a 1% majority.
Skip: yeah, it’s still got to be a majority.
Shane: majority rules.
Tia: correct. I believe in your……no it’s not constitution, it was……I can’t remember who it was, it was one of the founding fathers said that the inalienable right of the majority in all cases must be accepted. However, the majority must also allow the individual to practice whatever.
Skip: that’s in the Bill of Rights.
Tia: the inalienable right of the individual must not be suppressed by whatever….
Skip: that’s unalienable rights.
Tia: it is? It’s not my planet.
Tia: but with the admission that he has committed a felony, I have reason to believe that he is going for the lesser of the other possible things that he’s done. That he has been involved with, the other shady deals.
Skip: okay in other words he’s taking the lesser of two evil roads.
Tia: more evil roads actually.
Tia: so, with his action and his speech last night to the people United States which was part truth, part distortion of truth which is almost lying and out right, bald face attack on somebody that is doing their job. I think it was a very, very poor speech. Very poorly written, very poorly done, very poorly timed. Okay we got questions before I get on a tirade?
Russ: yeah, as far as the market's concerned….
Russ: if I put in a thousand dollars into the market, the market drops by a point I lose my thousand dollars, where does the thousand dollars go?
Russ: what do you mean it disappears? How does it disappear, where does it go to? Somebody’s got a thousand dollars right?
Tia: no, it’s like if you buy a car……let’s say you buy a car that’s worth a thousand dollars.
Tia: right? And depreciation of that car is one dollar a day right? In a thousand days that means that that car is worth nothing. Where did your thousand dollars go?
Russ: well it went to whoever wants to buy it for a thousand dollars.
Russ: if I can’t find anybody who wants to buy for a thousand dollars, then I can’t quite sell it.
Tia: that’s correct, you can’t turn around and sell it.
Russ: but I still hold onto that car, the car is still there.
Russ: but if my stock drops off the map…..
Tia: you still have the piece of paper.
Russ: so the stock comes back up again?
Russ: then it’s worth something.
Tia: correct, unless of course the company that owns that stock ceases to be. Next question........anyone?
Russ: I’m still trying to grasp the concept of stocks and losing money like that.
Skip: well you’re invested into a company and what you get in return for your investment is a piece of paper that says you invested so much money.
Russ: yeah the company’s getting my money.
Skip: do what?
Russ: does the company get my money?
Skip: no, well yeah they do…..
Skip: they do, yeah you’re correct……..
Tia: yes they do.
Skip: they do get your money but what
happens if…..let me see if I can give
you a for example. Say I’m in
business and I set up a stock exchange invested
into my business.
Skip: I get a 100 people to invest $1,000, that’s $100,000.
Skip: my business goes to the point of where it’s costing me more to operate it than I'm making profit out of it. My business goes belly up and I go bankrupt, the people lose all the money. They got the piece of paper but they still lose all their money.
Russ: yeah, so the money does go somewhere, it goes to the business.
Russ: oh that’s okay.
Skip: yeah but if the business does not profit then you do not see any return on your money.
Tia: you’ve got to remember that running costs and everything have to be taken out.
Can somebody find out what that feline
Russ: I'll check it out.
Tia: you have questions?
Skip: I don’t think so darling.
Tia: why not?
Skip: well, I got questions but you can’t answer them.
Tia: oh, you’ve got them for……
Skip: yeah right.
Tia: miss Steel Helmet. (Lyka)
Tia: full metal jacket.
Skip: yeah something like that.
Tia: something like that.
Skip: yeah, but you can’t answer the questions I have.
Tia: (blows a raspberry.) Ohhhh.
Tia: okay, okay.
Skip: so I don’t even voice them.
Skip: because I don’t want to get you in trouble.
Tia: I’m always in trouble.
Skip: no you aint.
Tia: okay Russ, question?
(Says goodbye in Durondodunn.)
Russ: I’ll be right there.
Omal: he will be right here.
Skip: good evening Omal.
Omal: greetings Skip, greetings young
man and greetings the absent Russ.
Omal: that is supposed to be little louder, shall we redo that?
Omal: thank you.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: okay let us go over a few of Tia’s points. Tia as always is being very clever in her wording. If you listen carefully to what she said she says a lot but, and wisely and rightly so at this time, she also says if you listen to what she says very little. The Bill Clinton part of her communique is all her opinion although there are facts concerning the legal ramifications of the admission of guilt. The admission of guilt being that he lied. It is not that he had an improper relationship, it was not even called an affair or a sexual interaction, it was an improper relationship which is not an admission of having a sexual relationship. So in actual fact he did not admit to anything, he just admitted that he had an improper relationship but what is the definition of an improper relationship?
Shane: cheating, not being faithful.
Omal: no, anything can be an improper relationship. In the case of the president of your country, being friendly with a drug dealer could be an improper relationship. Being friendly with a known special agent of a foreign government could be an improper relationship. Being too friendly with a foreign national could be an improper relationship. So it is not an admission of having relationship of a sexual nature with the young lady, it is just a an admission that it was not appropriate for him to be friendly with Monica Lewinsky. Now what about those people around him? Let us look at his wife, Hillary, is she upset?
Omal: yes, very much so. Why is she upset? Because he had an improper relationship with Ms. Lewinsky? No, because he was caught lying. A situation occurred that they thought and hoped would never happen. So what is going on there? What is the problem? Well the problem is not that he had a sexual relationship but the fact that he committed a felony by lying, by omitting not tell the truth. A very dangerous situation. But, something that Tia omitted and is worth looking at, is for the last seven months your country has been watching this soap opera, this entertainment. But what’s been happening to the economy? Well the economy is doing very well, why? Because your government has not been able to enact policies because it has been hamstrung by the investigation. So what does this tell us? This tells us that with a government not interfering, the economy goes really well. Whenever Greenspan, who is a member of the government makes a comment one way or the other, the stock market goes wild. It either climbs rapidly as it did today or it plummets. What does this say? This says that when the government makes an announcement that is relating to the economy, to the stock market, to the state of the nation, it does affect the stock market regardless of what people believe. Policies that are enacted affect the economy also however, unlike comments that are made and threats of increasing the lending rate, it takes longer and I believe Tia said up to four years. Research has shown us that it is anywhere from four years to seven years depending on what policies are enacted and how they are constructed. I also understand from one of our analysts that the deficit in trade is at the largest it has ever been, not the largest I stand corrected, it is near the largest deficit in your country’s history. For a government that said when it was elected that it would reduce the deficit, this strikes as a very strange behavioral pattern. Another comment that was made and does anyone recall this? That the new administration at the time in 1992 said it would have the most ethical administration in history. Well we now have the most investigated administration in history. I think something went awry there. These things tie in with Tia’s predictions. Tia’s predictions were made approximately 3 ½ to 4 years ago, the majority of them are starting to bear fruition, they are coming to the forefront. Now, what does the future hold? Well, things are definitely coming to an end of a cycle. Within the next two years, things are going to happen good or bad, they will happen. I’m not going to speculate at this time what they are as I will be breaking my own rules about releasing information before they have been approved and analyzed. All's I can say is that some of it looks very good and some of it looks very bad. Okay, do we have questions?
Russ: yeah most of what I was reading today on the pyramids of Giza and how our future is actually written within the architecture of the pyramids.
Russ: how does that fit in with what Tia has predicted and what we’re looking at in the future?
Omal: hate to disappoint you but the
written in predictions are predicted by people,
they’re not built in to the pyramids.
Omal: they are by people that have looked at the pyramids and said these are not natural, they were not made by people from your planet, they were made by space aliens which……..
Shane: I have a question.
Omal: one second……which is accurate and inaccurate. It is like saying that the Empire State building was built by Native Americans. That is inaccurate, it was built by Americans that had moved from another country or a better way to put it is that the World Trade Center was made by Europeans, that is accurate and inaccurate. The descendants of settlers from Europe made the World Trade Center, not the Europeans. So by saying that space aliens made the pyramids and thus encoded the future in it is inaccurate, it was made by people that were born on your planet from plans from other sources. Shane.
Shane: okay you know how you said space aliens?
Shane: okay, aliens living out in outer space still refer to the aliens then?
Omal: yes, next question.
Skip: I have a question young man.
Omal: oh thank you.
Skip: the pyramids in Egypt, okay I’m talking about the most advertised ones........
Skip: were coated on the outside with stone with hieroglyphics on them.
Skip: since the passing of time, they have eroded all of that or 99% of the hieroglyphics from the outside of them pyramids……
Skip: is there anyway that they can ever, ever be recapped or re……..
Skip: recovered or...?
Omal: certainly, the same way they were covered initially however, to be able to put the exact copy of what was on the pyramids is not impossible but it’s extremely hard.
Skip: it’d be probably improbable is what you’re telling me.
Omal: yes, improbable due to the fact that you do not know where to look to find the hieroglyphics that were painted on there, they do exist.
Skip: I see.
Omal: they are in public view. More I cannot say.
Skip: okay, I was just kind of curious.
Omal: whilst we’re on the subject of pyramids, there is a famous statement written inside Chephren or Khafren's pyramid that is in actual fact a modern forgery and not even accurate. Now the Pharaoh was the sun god Ra when he died. Written inside Khafren's pyramid it says quote unquote, "Khafren, higher than Ra". Confusion, very understandable. How can Khafren be higher than Ra when in actual fact he is Ra?
Omal: so what does this say? This says that there has been tampering with the Great Pyramid. Even if he had an ego problem or was mentally unbalanced, he would not put himself above himself. After all, when he died he became Ra so how could he be higher than himself?
Skip: so somebody’s been playing games.
Omal: uh-huh, a certain British Colonel has been playing games. Next question please.
Russ: all right, how about the Mayan calendar?
Russ: and it’s been decoded so to say to predict certain dates that have happened or are going to happen, same thing?
Omal: pretty much so,
are open to interpretation. The Mayan calendar was
translated without aid because most of the Mayan
writings were destroyed. Very few writings are
around from that period. Without a device such as
a Rosetta Stone, it becomes extremely hard to
decipher something. So it is all opinions,
especially with hieroglyphics. This means that,
hmm, that is a matter of opinion. Because of a
hand in the Egyptian hieroglyphics held like this
means one thing, how do you know that that means
something without such a device as a Rosetta
Stone? It is pure conjecture and it is the same
with the Mayan calendar. How do you know? Well
there is no Rosetta Stone so it is what people
assume or what is more probable and
more likely what something means.
Omal: it is like code breaking, you do not know exactly what is being said until you have something that can confirm what has been said. You can say with a certain amount of probability but you cannot say accurately and to say accurately that these predictions are so is inaccurate because there is no Rosetta Stone to aid in the translation.
Russ: hmm, now five years ago and I might be mistaken here but I believe it was Korton who said that there was a Mayan pyramid that had been discovered which had the codices within it that would allow the translation to be done.
Omal: actually three and half years ago.
Russ: ahh thank you. Whatever happened to that?
Omal: they are being analyzed and looked at by scholars and because they have not been released into the general populace and I think if you look carefully, you will see that the dates on the predictions to what has been supposedly translated from the Mayan calendar is prior to '94. So therefore before the decoding these were written which means that there was a strong probability that these are inaccurate.
Russ: so we might get some updated predictions from the Mayan calendar at some point in the future?
Russ: okay. Hmm, excellent.
Omal: next question.................please, don’t talk at once.
Russ: okay, alright. Now besides the Mayans, we have the Olmecs prior to them.
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: now we’ve always said that the Olmecs were the fathers of the Mayan civilization.
Russ: have we translated anything from the Olmec that you know of?
Omal: not that I am aware that you have not translated, not that I’m aware of.
Russ: ahh, okay so the language theoretically then is completely different, it would be tough to really say that there was much in the way of a connection then of where did the Mayans get their language then.
Russ: okay, how would we work this out?
Omal: it is very, very simple, if you look at English now and go back 200 years….
Omal: it is different than from what is now. If you go back 400 years to the Renaissance period, it is different than what it was 200 years ago than what is now.
Russ: but it’s recognizable.
Omal: but hard to follow and understand. It is the same with the Olmecs and the Mayans, it is the same language but spoken differently.
Russ: well would it be fair to say then that the Olmecs maybe perhaps had an outside influence from another race of people on the planet who might’ve then evolved into the Mayans which would kind of explain what’s been going on then?
Omal: that is a possibility. You see evolution is something that goes on all the time. If you take a language and look at its historical progression, let us take the most widely spoken language in your planet, English. 1,200 years ago it was spoken very, very differently from what is spoken now, the medium that we communicate in at this moment. If you go back a further 200 years, it is very, very different but yet understandable to a certain extent. Originally the English language was a Germanic tongue. If you listen to Germans communicate, you understand basically what they are saying. It is very difficult and sometimes the words are very different but basic keywords are the same. So there is a root link in the languages.
Omal: why would a small tribal language become so widely spoken? It is definitely not because it is the easiest language in the world to learn, it is certainly not that.
Russ: well it was spread so quickly. I mean the Huns and barbarian tribes basically took over much of the known world….
Russ: back then.
Omal: but if you look at the English language, you will find words that weren’t originally in it that in actual fact have influences from other countries. For example, okay, what does that mean?
Shane: all right.
Omal: one definition.
Skip: that you’re feeling all right.
Omal: three different explanations, two of them very similar. Where did the word okay come from? I believe it is from a Nigerian language. It was brought over with the slaves to your country. A small tribal area introduced a new word that is acceptable and used in everyday conversation. It is easier than saying, "I am doing well, how are you doing?" "Ahh, I’m okay."
Omal: "can I do something or would you like to join us whilst we do something?" instead of saying, "I would be delighted to", "okay".
Russ: so if we look a 1,000 years ahead…
Russ: when we can then say that our language might not be……it will be recognizable as a root for that language but it probably would be quite different from what would be spoken then.
Omal: correct, your language is constantly evolving, a language that is stagnant relates to a stagnant society. If you take a language and the language does not change for hundreds of years…..
Russ: well like Latin?
Omal: who speaks Latin?
Omal: very few doctors speak Latin.
Russ: they have to learn it.
Skip: churches used to.
Omal: used to.
Skip: yeah they’ve evolved into the spoken language of the population.
Shane: why do doctors have to learn Latin?
Russ: many of the herbs and things they use have Latin words for them.
Omal: uh-huh, they do not have to learn Latin, they just learn what particular words mean.
Omal: metacarpals, tarsals, digitals.
Skip: and yet we’ve absorbed a lot of Latin words into our language.
Omal: correct but the language itself is dead, it is stagnant. A language that was once spoken by a lot of people is dying. What happened to the group of individuals that started that language?
Russ: they were overrun.
Skip: well they’re gone.
Omal: correct. So a language that becomes stagnant means a society is stagnant. As long as a society is evolving, it evolves. For example, a word that is evolved that was a kind of an insult, is even more of an insult and a disgusting insult in most circles. A word that was used at a famous battle in your planet’s history. The word, pluck yew. Pluck as in pulling, yew as in a tree. Pluck yew was used as an insult to say that we had the yew that could beat you. Meaning English longbowmen had the bow made of English yew that could beat the French and did. So the term pluck yew became an insult and it later evolved into a word beginning with F. So a word that was used as a direct insult has now become a word that is not used in acceptable society. That is evolution.
Russ: hmm. Okay one more question for you I’ve got. The evolution of our language from that point has evolved into a blending of English spoken through most of the populace world as we know it. Is that then symbolic then that people of the world are now working closely together as one?
Omal: well they have to, everybody has to work closer together. After all, your planet is not as big as it once was in a communicative scale. There are now many, many places that are just a click of a button away. You can talk to any part of your planet instantly.
Russ: that's quite true
Omal: that is correct, it is quite true. And being able to communicate over such a vast medium at such high speed means that there has to be a common language. After all, if one area spoke one language and another area spoke another language, then you would need specialized individuals and specialized programs to act as a translator from one to the other which is a lot of work but, learning a language at an early age so that it becomes a second language is relatively easy. Shane, in your schools do they teach Spanish?
Shane: not until you get in like the upper grades.
Omal: but if you wanted, you could learn Spanish.
Shane: my choice.
Omal: correct, it is very useful to be
(Omal returns to the subject at hand.)
Omal: communication, you can say that communication is important. Many people communicate different ways. For example, I can sit here and talk and explain something in a language that you do not know what I’m talking about.
Shane: sign language.
Omal: no, kind of. A language that I picked up that if I was facing a individual that spoke the same language that was originally very indigenous to your continent, in actual fact indigenous to the plains of your continent, they would’ve known what I just said.
Skip: American Indian sign language.
Omal: correct. What I said is three people on a horse......on horses....by the sun.......down low by the moon. Four people……how would it go? Four people of pale skin on horses.
Skip: it’s just like when I was a young man in this 3-D thing…..
Skip: the second language taught predominantly in schools was French, not Spanish.
Skip: because French was a real predominant language throughout the world when I was younger.
Omal: yes it is and still is, in Europe believe it is taught in most schools. English or French are the two main languages that are taught. More people on your planet speak English but the country with the biggest population does not have one language. Mandarin, Cantonese, Shuishu. So they have a common language that some of them speak but mostly people speak English as a language. Not necessarily as a first language but as a language. What people need to know English? Bankers…..
Omal: statesman, scientists……
Skip: doctors don’t need to know English.
Russ: military personnel.
Omal: military personnel. So that is why one language from a tiny, tiny island nation is spoken all over the world because it is a language that has been forced upon people. A language that is evolving and changing. Any more questions?
Omal: live long, prosper and I’ll be back.
Skip: thank you Omal.
(Tia comes back to hand over to Karra.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Skip: hi babe.
Tia: hey. Long, very long, okay…..
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn.)
(Karra is tonight's unofficial keynote speaker.)
Russ: greetings my love, welcome back.
Karra: so how is everybody going?
Russ: good my dear.
Karra: good, good, good, good.
Russ: you had an enjoyable trip I take it?
Karra: yes, as always business can be both enjoyable and not enjoyable.
Karra: okay let us look at healing. I believe we were working on some healing things with you last time we talked, I think it was two weeks ago?
Skip: yes it was.
Skip: now I have a question before you start so I don’t interrupt you okay?
Karra: well I was going to actually say something briefly and then leave it open to talk……
Karra: but feel free.
Skip: okay, I’ve started doing more active healing than I’ve done in the past.
Skip: now I know you young ladies were watching me….
Skip: and you gave me some pointers which I really appreciate.
Skip: but by me doing this, am I increasing my own powers of healing?
Karra: let me put it another way.
Skip: go ahead.
Karra: if you pick up weights and work with the weights, what you do?
Skip: you gain strength.
Karra: so by working with your healing….
Skip: I’m picking up more power through it.
Karra: well you’re picking up more knowledge and skill.
Karra: it’s like having a gallon of your petroleum liquid….
Karra: and you put it into your vehicle and it goes 30 miles hypothetically……
Skip: yeah, go ahead.
Karra: okay, let us say that you get given another gallon of fuel and for the same car but you want it to make it go further, you make it more efficient.
Karra: by saying that you increase your power is inaccurate to a certain extent. Certainly by using it you gain more skill and information and you learn how to use it more efficiently.......
Karra: which is better than if you were to continue using the same amount of energy but increasing your strength. By using the energy more efficiently, you can do much more with it than if you were to just increase your strength and your ability. Certainly that does happen but the key is to be more efficient with what you have so that you can do more which is just the same as increasing your strength.
Skip: uh-huh, okay.
Karra: if anything I would say that that is better because A, you’re using your energy and strength more efficiently and B, you are learning. You can increase and increase and increase your strength all day long but if you’re expending the same amount of energy then you’re not achieving that much. But if you increase your strength at the same time as increasing your knowledge things work much better and more efficiently and you’re able to do more. Even if you don’t increase your strength, by using that energy more efficiently, you can do more.
Karra: so if you do both, you can do a lot, lot more.
Skip: okay thank you darling.
Karra: uh-huh. But as I was going to say, with healing goes the moral responsibility and the patience to go with it. Not the patients as in people that need healing but the patience in taking your time and not hurrying things. You cannot hurry things because if you hurry, you overlook sometimes important things. So with healing, it is necessary sometimes to be slow and cautious but, on the other hand, being slow sometimes can be costly so it is a matter of gaining that all-important experience so that you can learn how to use your experience more efficiently and to avoid mistakes which could be costly. And also learning when to say I can't do this, I need somebody that knows more than I do.
Karra: okay who’s beeping?
Russ: not me.
Karra: okay, questions.
Russ: okay, well the last time we talked you mentioned how people heal themselves and that’s one of the keys to healing.
Karra: oh last time we talked in the channeling session?
Russ: uh-huh correct. With that, it’s beginning to be a point where you can heal really by giving them encouraging words that for example they're looking better.
Karra: yes to a certain extent, that is true for simple ailments.
Russ: right but that would help most anybody actually be a healer that point….
Russ: just by not giving them negative comments but instead turning them to positive comments.
Russ: I mean you could do more harm with a word in that case then you could with anything else.
Karra: that’s correct.
Skip: that’s why it pays to be a positive person as much as you can be.
Karra: that is very correct, I would’ve thought that would have been self-evident.
Russ: yeah but ours readers won’t understand that.
Karra: ahh, we have readers?
Russ: we have thousands of readers.
Karra: I'm pulling your….
Skip: chain. (Skips laughs out loud.) Now I made comments to a young lady that I was kind of taken under my wing more or less to heal, I asked her two questions before I ever started and I’m wondering if I was correct and positive in doing this or not. I asked her if she believed or if she trusted me and then I asked her if she believed in healing, spiritual and physical.
Skip: now are these correct procedures to take to begin with or am I overstepping my…..?
Karra: it depends on the situation, it’s something that comes with experience. There are times where it is not the right idea to ask those questions.
Skip: now I was trying to do a major thing with her.
Karra: uh-huh, oh I understand, I understand.
Skip: now other people I’ve just taken headaches away I never said anything to them.
Karra: but by saying do you believe is sowing seeds of self-doubt you see. But also bringing it to the attention also can make them aware that they can heal and be healed so it is something that you have to gauge carefully.
Russ: now is this something where you could say instead, “now I’d like to remind you that you do have the ability to heal yourself”.....
Russ: and it’s your belief that will do so?
Karra: no let’s drop the term…….
Skip: now you’re stepping into something different here.
Karra: yeah the thing is that you’re talking belief right? By mentioning belief, you are saying that you have to believe.
Russ: so it's just another way of saying you have the ability to heal yourself.
Skip: no that was what we put out as something that wasn’t for public knowledge as I understood, am I correct or wrong?
Karra: you’re correct in saying that you can heal yourself, that is something that…..
Skip: most people won’t believe you.
Karra: uh-huh, correct.
Skip: but most people……
Russ: well having the knowledge of it sows the seeds that they can then do so themselves.
Karra: but that takes time, that takes time.
Skip: well okay but the only reason I ask this young lady is because…..
Karra: thank you.
Skip: I already have the feeling that she had something in her background where she understood what I was saying.
Skip: I wouldn’t do this to anybody.
Russ: right, I was just thinking in future situations where for example I’m in the same situation.
Karra: yeah but by saying that you have the ability to heal itself is something that healers like to keep to themselves until the time is appropriate that the person is well on the way to recovery. Sort of like, “hey I helped you, I did what I could but without you and your ability to heal yourself I couldn’t have done it.” But you don’t say that until later because if you tell them, "you’ve got to believe that you can heal yourself", you're sowing the seeds of self-doubt. So by saying, "I can heal you, I can help you", is more important than saying…....yes I know Russ.
Russ: but isn’t that building up your own self over and above the purpose of the healing?
Karra: no, no.
Skip: I don’t believe so, I think that what you’re doing is you’re establishing a faith in you that you can do something to help them, even though they’re helping themselves.
Karra: uh-huh, the energy that they are producing is the fact that they believe that you can help them.
Russ: but what if they don’t? I mean is the pressure on you……..
Skip: well they don’t than it doesn’t work.
Russ: yeah well at that point I mean is the pressure then a fact of, “well I don’t have to do anything, I’ll just sit here and let them heal me.”
Skip: that’s fine.
Russ: no it isn’t fine because then they’re not doing anything to help themselves.
Karra: okay this is how it works, if they believe that you can heal them, that is using their energy. “Hey this guy can heal me, I don't have to do anything, I can sit here and they go through the whole entire process, I feel good afterwards, this felt good, I feel better.”
Russ: but what if they’re going in expecting to be healed and they don’t feel any different and they just say, "well this guy’s a fake, a charlatan, he didn’t do anything for me”? So it’s not going to work in a hundred percent of the cases.
Karra: nothing works……
Skip: that’s right, you still got the 5%.
Russ: yeah but your percentage I think if you tell them you’re helping me to heal you from the very get-go increases your odds up.
Skip: no it don’t.
Karra: no it doesn’t because it can also work the other way.
Skip: because they’re expecting more out of you then what they’re expecting out of themselves.
Karra: uh-huh, although even though all of healing comes from themselves right?
Skip: you’re powering it up.
Karra: you’re focusing that energy to help heal them. If they go in and you tell them that they can heal themselves and nothing happens, they go, “what’s wrong with me, why can’t I heal myself? Oh my, it must be worse than I thought.” Or, “what’s wrong with me, why can’t I do this?” Which again is negative. If they go in and you can’t heal them right? Is it better that they think that you’re a charlatan and they do not change their condition or that they get a little better? Which is better?
Shane: the first one.
Skip: and sometimes healing takes more than once or twice or even three, four, five, six times.
Karra: uh-huh. There is no…….
Skip: set standard.
Karra: no cure on your planet that works 100% of the time for everybody.
Russ: I guess I just want to take away the mysticism of healing and give people more of an explanation of how it works.
Skip: okay but you understand okay and I understand and this young lady understands but there’s a lot of people out there that have no concept of what we’re doing, none whatsoever.
Russ: oh I understand that part.
Skip: and if you try to tell them that they're healing themselves with your help, they don’t know what the heck you’re talking about and they got their doubts right now that you can’t do it because they don’t want to do it but if they walk into you and say, “hey you’re a healer, I trust you…”
Skip: as you’re doing something to make them feel better then all of a sudden you tell them okay, “now, you’re getting better but it isn’t all my doing, it's your doing and me helping you do it.”
Russ: yeah but all you doing is taking responsibility away from themselves and putting it on yourself.
Karra: if you have an individual that has a throat condition and you know what I’m talking about and you tell them that they can heal themselves and it doesn’t get better, then they think, “what is my problem, why can’t I heal myself, what is different about me then everybody else? What is wrong with me, why can’t I do this? I can’t cure it, then there is no cure, then I’m going to die. That’s it, end, over, done.” And that person has given up but, if on the other hand you say, “look, it’s beyond my ability, I can’t help you but together we might be able to do this but it is beyond my ability to fight this ailment. I suggest that you go to somebody that has far more experience than I do. Let’s go to a doctor.” That doctor looks at the problem and describes ways of dealing with it. The person feels better, they start to get better even before the treatment starts because they believe that that doctor can heal them as you can help them to heal. Now, as they're getting better before the treatment, what’s happened? Their mind has kicked in in the belief that that doctor which could just as easily be you can help to heal them. Now, if they believe that you can heal them, they don’t need to know that it’s them healing themselves because if they don’t start to get better, then that starts the whole entire negative pathway. Instead of being upset at somebody else, they're now upset at themselves which makes the problem even worse. That’s why you do not tell them because if things don’t go as they should, then they blame themselves and they get worse whereas instead of blaming somebody else and going on to somebody else that has more experience and getting better……see how it works?
Karra: so you can’t go around screaming that everybody can heal themselves. Sure they can but if they don’t, then it works even worse than somebody trying to heal them that they don’t believe can heal them because it feeds back on themselves. You understand?
Russ: well I do, I just have questions about it.
Russ: well for example, healing is a skill, just like playing baseball or golf or……
Russ: anything else and if I know I can heal myself and I don’t succeed, I’ll either A, do one of two things…….
Russ: I’ll practice harder and try to succeed again or go to a doctor……
Karra: but this…..
Russ: or I’ll try to be successful and if it doesn’t work then I’ll go to a doctor.
Karra: but this person that I mentioned is not like that.
Russ: well I understand, it’s just personally, maybe it’s just me……
Russ: maybe I just see this different from other people but if I want to do something and I fail, then I want to do it better the next time.
Karra: yes but some people aren’t like that, if they can’t do it they give up. So going around screaming that people can heal themselves is wrong because yes they can but if they fail and they give up it is far worse.
Skip: then it’s worse.
Karra: uh-huh, it makes it harder for somebody to come along and heal.
Skip: see I understood, now can I interrupt you a minute darling?
Skip: I understood that when we were told a healer’s secret which is that people heal themselves, we just assist them, that that was a secret that we keep, we don’t tell people about it until they get to a point of where they’re actually getting better.
Karra: or preferably healed.
Russ: right, I understand that yeah.
Skip: okay, now if we do this…..okay, say I take on this young man and he doesn’t know anything about healing….
Skip: and I tell him, “well you can heal yourself with my help.” He looks at me like I’m crazy. He don’t even know what I’m talking about because he’s never had any contact with it. But if I go up to him and say, “I can help fix you, I can heal you if you trust me and do you believe that I can do this?” “Well yeah.”
Karra: well there’s actually an easier way instead of doing that whole entire spiel is you’re talking to your person and say, “hmmm, I notice that you’ve got a headache. I know something that makes me feel better when I have a headache” you see. See what I’m saying?
Karra: instead of going through, “I can help to heal you…” “I know a little old home remedy that makes me feel better. I’ve used it on a few other people and it makes them feel better too. Let me try it on you, I can’t guarantee that you’re going to feel better but most of the people that I have used it on have.” So you’re saying to them that, “hey, other people feel better with it" and you're kicking in their healing because they go, “oh, well if other people feel better then maybe this will work."
Karra: but if you go in and say to them, “well I can help you to focus so that you can make yourself feel better” and if that doesn’t work then not only are they upset at you but they’re upset at themselves and it goes back to, “why can’t I heal, why can’t I make myself better?"
Karra: I know part of what Russ’ problem is at the moment.
Russ: yeah it’s a third dimensional thing.
Karra: it’s also the fact you’re tired.
Russ: yeah it’s also that but on sixth dimension you don’t worry about this.
Russ: everybody already knows you heal yourself or you can heal yourself unless it’s really bad.
Karra: okay let us move along.
Skip: okay go ahead darling.
Karra: instead of getting stuck in this rut of the healer’s secret. Now first of all, what does a secret mean?
Skip: it means you keep it to yourself.
Karra: or something that is not widely known is what Shane was going to say. Remember that Russ, you’ve already broken the healer’s secret a few times.
Russ: well millions of people around the world hear about this every day.
Russ: I mean it’s not like it’s a real big secret because I read about it in just the Sedona Journal of Emergence all the time and other places.
Karra: yes but…..
Russ: it’s not a real well-kept secret let’s say.
Karra: no it’s not but healers do not go around spouting it, doctors do not go around in a hospital saying that, “I can do the physical healing, you can do the mental healing.” They have special people for that called psychiatrists.
Skip: yeah, psychology.
Karra: uh-huh, people make a whole entire living out of it on your planet.
Skip: yeah I notice that a lot of physicians are starting to bring in spiritual people to help them with patients.
Karra: uh-huh. Okay, next question.
Russ: oh no, my can of worms is closed and…..
Karra: ohhhh, we will address that later Russ.
Karra: okay, any more questions?
Skip: I don’t think so darling, we covered that subject pretty cotton picking good.
Karra: how did my piece of advice help you Skip?
Skip: go ahead.
Karra: I told you not to worry about things last time we chatted, did that help?
Skip: for me?
Skip: it’s getting there let’s put it that way……
Karra: it takes time.
Skip: it’s taking me a long time.
Karra: it takes time.
Skip: yeah because I’m writing a journal and I’m starting to put things down on paper and it’s starting to kind of leave my mind when I write them down.
Karra: uh-huh, that’s a good way. Okay…..
Skip: thank you.
Russ: thank you darling.
(Tia returns as ring mistress to move things along.)
(Tia says hello in Durondodunn.)
Skip: you’re back again huh?
Tia: uh-huh well I’m the ring mistress. I’ve got my ring mistress outfit on with my tall hat and my jacket with the tails and I’ve got my chair in this hand and I've got my whip in this hand.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondodunn.)
(Lyka takes time out of what is now her very busy schedule.)
Skip: good evening sweetheart, no questions. (He then starts chuckling.)
Russ: hi Lyka.
Russ: how’s it going darling?
Lyka: (sighs) tired.
Russ: I can imagine, long trip?
Lyka: no, just up since about midnight. Actually not much longer than that, didn't even get to sleep last night.
Lyka: uh-huh, spent most of the time that I planned to be asleep on guard duty and making sure my personnel were doing what they were supposed to be doing.
Russ: well if it’s not nightly it’s not too bad.
Lyka: no, we just had an exercise. Okay, any questions?
Russ: Skip, I think you’re probably more up on questions for Lyka than I am?
Lyka: anybody want to be knocked off their feet?
Shane: yeah the cat.
Skip: my mind ain’t working right tonight at all.
Russ: well Lyka, I guess congratulations are in order.
Lyka: oh thank you……
Russ: you’re welcome.
Lyka: mums the word, it’s quiet at the moment.
Russ: ahh okay.
Skip: I understand you had quite an exercise the other night?
Lyka: hmm last night yes, last night and this morning. They didn’t tell us it was an exercise.
Skip: that’s what I heard.
Lyka: uh-huh. Got dragged down there screaming and shouting in full combat gear, posted my guards and just made sure everything was already prepared and planned and strategized for the worst.
Skip: you’ve changed quite a bit young lady.
Lyka: I’m tired quite a bit.
Skip: no I mean you’ve changed since the first time I met you.
Skip: oh more conservative now than you used to be.
Lyka: not such of a party animal?
Skip: well party animal I wouldn’t even say that but…..
Lyka: oh I am and I was.
Skip: responsibility has calmed you down quite a bit.
Lyka: uh-huh, yes it has and it’s not just the responsibility it’s all the book learning I have to do.
Skip: well the learning comes with time…..
Skip: responsibility kind of jumps up and bites you.
Lyka: it doesn’t bite, it is takes big chunks out of you.
Lyka: my life is not my own.
Lyka: I can’t go out and get absolutely blitzed and hammered and wake up in the morning and come in with a hangover because if I make a bad mistake as a captain, it’s not only me that has to live with the outcome, it’s the 90 individuals under my command.
Skip: yeah and it all runs downhill don’t it?
Skip: uh-huh and you seem them to be in the middle of the hill now….
Skip: instead of at the bottom. (He laughs.)
Lyka: well as a second lieutenant and as a cadet lieutenant I did not have the headaches and the worries that I have now. And the fact that I’m going to college as well to….
Skip: you know there's a cure for that.
Lyka: what is it?
Skip: it’s called delegate responsibilities.
Lyka: I delegate a lot but I can’t delegate what I learn, I have to learn that.
Skip: this is true.
Skip: it takes a lot of that pressure off you if you’re delegating responsibilities.
Lyka: that’s why I have an adjutant and two lieutenants under me.
Skip: there you go.
Lyka: they’re the ones that do my dirty work whilst I do my book learning and I do my reports and I read the reports that they write for me and I sign them or I initial them to say that I initialed instead of signing but I still enjoy things.
Skip: I’m sure you do.
Lyka: I still get the opportunity to go down to the piest (Sirian?) and get out my sword and practice.
Lyka: I’m not the best but hell.
Skip: what do you mean you’re not the best?
Lyka: I get killed from time to time with my sword.
Skip: so do you learn from it?
Lyka: but there is somebody better than me which means that I’m not the best.
Skip: they got more concentration than you do.
Lyka: they got more experience than I do. Don’t forget, I’m only 21, they’ve got several hundred more years experience than I do and they’ve got the past lives to draw on and I can’t seem to access those at the moment. I know I have them but, beats me.
Lyka: okay I’ll put on the next person, I’m tired as well.
Skip: yeah go ahead darling, get yourself some rest.
Russ: sleep tight love.
(Tia makes her last appearance as ring mistress.)
(Tia says hi in Durondodunn.)
Tia: okay, I’ll put on the next person.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondodunn.)
(Kiri gets the session to its conclusion.)
Russ: what’s up Kiri?
Kiri: yo, greetings, greetings, greetings, greetings, how is everyone?
Russ: it’s good.
Skip: it’s great.
Kiri: good, good, good.
Skip: thank you for the e-mail.
Kiri: I don’t have e-mail, oh Tia has e-mail.
Kiri: uh-huh. I’m not Tia.
Skip: I’m sorry.
Kiri: that’s all right.
Skip: don’t mind me I'm....
(Kiri blows a raspberry.)
Skip: not all here tonight.
Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, let me see, what are we going to talk about? Okay…..
Russ: how about the fact you’re not a celebrity anymore?
Kiri: never was a celebrity.
Russ: you have a famous line of swimwear.
Kiri: yeah, but I’m not a high celebrity, I’m a designer.
Russ: you’re one of the best aren’t you?
Russ: well there you go.
Kiri: okay warp core engines, what you do…..
(Skip starts laughing.)
Kiri: or as Omal would say, “the dilithium crystals, they can’t take it.” No? No, that killed the conversation.
Skip: dilithium crystals?
Kiri: “yes they no can'na take it, you no can change the laws of physics.”
Skip: dilithium crystals........
Kiri: I’m pulling your tush.
Skip: you still ain’t going to tell me are you?
Skip: I didn’t figure you would.
Kiri: I can’t.
Skip: I didn’t figure you was, you just want to tease me a little.
Skip: yeah right.
Kiri: okay, what shall we talk about?
Skip: warp core engines.
Kiri: warp core engines okay, I can see it’s going to be one of those nights.
Skip: no, I’m just pulling your chain darling.
Kiri: okay I made a trip up to the mountains......
Kiri: to visit my grandmother.
Kiri: she’s doing well, she’s feeling a little better.
Skip: oh good, good for her, glad to hear it.
Kiri: yes, we got reports that she wasn’t feeling very well. Little did we know that she had broken her arm.
Skip: oh no.
Russ: oh bummer.
Kiri: yes, she had been out pruning trees and she's such a dainty little thing too.
Skip: talking about your grandma…..
Kiri: not yet.
Kiri: not yet.
Skip: you knew exactly what I was going to say.
Kiri: uh-huh. Hey I’m a coercer, I can read minds. Not yet, not yet but she is working with the gentleman, he is spending more time in his escape state escaping pain.
Kiri: from what she said it’s got to the point where he doesn’t want any more help or treatment for the simple reason that he's getting tired of being sick.
Skip: uh-huh, he’s just getting tired of it.
Kiri: he just wants it to be over one way or another. I mean after all, he’s been like this for about five years.
Skip: oh my goodness gracious.
Kiri: yeah one minute he’s got a few months to live and the next minute he’s getting better and those months have gone by and he's still got just a few months to live and they’re trying new treatments and stuff and he's not enjoying himself.
Skip: yeah, just getting to be a drag.
Skip: by the way, will you ask your grandma…..
Skip: the next time you see her if my mom’s doing okay.
Kiri: okay I will do so, I will put a call in to the monitor screen to make an appointment to talk to her…..
Skip: well I didn’t mean for you to go out of your way.
Kiri: oh no, no, no, no, I talk to her about once a month.
Kiri: but I’ll make an exception and she always likes to hear from Leonedies anyway so I can use Leonedies as an excuse.
Skip: oh okay, good enough.
Kiri: after all, what are children for?
Skip: ask her how mom’s doing.
Kiri: uh-huh. Actually I’ve learned that children are an excuse for us, meaning adults, to behave like children.
Kiri: it gives us the opportunity to relive our own childhood and also participate in things that weren’t around when we were little.
Kiri: what has happened to his voice?
Russ: want something to drink?
Kiri: no thank you, I’m trying to give it up. So with children……actually I could do a brief little dissertation with this……children are how people live on through the future but children and having children is an opportunity for adults to to experiment and play with toys that they want to play with. I’ve noticed by watching certain entertainments on your planet that children or adults like to learn how to use the toys that the children have. For example, video games…..
Shane: I don’t like those very much.
Kiri: you don’t?
Shane: no, not very much.
Kiri: well a lot of people do and a lot of adults like to play those video games.
Kiri: and often they will buy the video games as toys for their children but after the children have gone to bed what do they do?
Shane: they play with them.
Shane: that’s what my mom did.
Skip: I know a guy who likes to fish a video games.
Shane: me!!! Oh.
Kiri: you do?
Shane: I have a little fishing toy.
Kiri: uh-huh. I'll bet you wish you had one of those when you were young?
Shane: but check it out though, real fishing is not the same, it’s a lot more fun. You get to put them in a boat.
Kiri: uh-huh and you can actually eat it in real life.
Kiri: fry it up in a skillet and….
Shane: unless you want to eat batteries.
Shane: said unless you want to eat batteries.
Kiri: well you can do both, it’s called a varied diet which is very important.
(Chuckles start all around.)
Kiri: you can’t live on just fish alone, unless it’s salmon and you can’t live on berries alone and you can’t live on rabbit because rabbit is a good way to starve.
Shane: rabbit’s good.
Kiri: uh-huh but it actually takes more energy to eat the rabbit then the energy given by the rabbit.
Shane: rabbits are hard to eat with bones.
Kiri: personally I don’t eat rabbit but you see the thing is that there is more work involved in eating a rabbit then the energy that the rabbit gives off. Even the digestion takes more energy than…...if you were to put the whole entire eating process in from putting the meat in your mouth, it takes energy that you don’t have if you live on rabbits. Eventually you’ll starve eating rabbits. My, we are having a talkative channeling session aren’t we?
Shane: oh yes we are.
Russ: I don’t know, I thought chewing up on rabbits was….
Skip: I think we’re all getting kind of wore out.
Kiri: how much tape do we have left?
Russ: it's about five minutes.
Kiri: oh we can kill five minutes real easy.
Shane: depends on how we’re going to destroy it.
Kiri: good point, good point. Personally I think with something like a warp core engine, we put it inside the warp core engine, time will get all bent out of shape.
Russ: put a rabbit in a warp core engine.
Kiri: hmmm. Actually I was looking at a page yesterday and there was a gentleman in there that first of all said that a particular person that’s on the base needs a lesson in relative physics and guess what? I thought it was hilarious.
Kiri: because this person said that Omah when it is actually Omal, even wrote it Omah instead of Omal which makes the person with look very bad who wrote it. Have you checked out the…..not the bookmarks…..the guest book in the Hades Base News recently?
Kiri: I think you should. This person obviously thinks they're intelligent, knows a little bit about physics and obviously did not read what was written.
Russ: I’ll check it out.
Kiri: uh-huh. Because the person read manifold instead of manifest.
Skip: sounds like some of my spelling.
THE TAPE ENDS
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