Pyramids, Proposals, and Water Breaking- 

Channeling Date (04/04/1994)

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Archivist Notes: The channeling session for the month of December finishes up the year on a very special note, Ashtar's latest addition to the archives and his revelations about pyramids around the world. Prior to getting to the main summary, here are the items of note we wished to explain first. To start, the term farsighting is used in the place of astral travel as it would be another year before we switched terms. Next, I had done a past life regression on Mark recently and quite a number of things came to light. In the life we explored, Mark in that life had usage of two very unusual items of power. A sword and armor made out of meteorite. It seemed that life also involved elves which would be expanded on later by Luna, a first time speaker. During Karra's time talking, I had attended a Grateful Dead concert so Karra found it a way to connect to me amidst the collected energy of tens of thousands of people. As for when Maxxus is brought up in questions to several speakers, that is Mark's Atlantean past life's name when the two of us were brothers. Mark's relationship to the Great Pyramid's building was covered in the archives when the levitating of the stones for the construction is covered more then. One last note about side one, this would my first trip to Centari Base and it gave me a better understanding of the inner workings of Ashtar Command. The notes for side two include an explanation that during a channeling session before, Ashtar had used coercion the speaker who was Luna to say something that was in answer to my question I had been coerced to ask. The next note is on Raya who is mentioned. She is a friend of mine I met while attending channeling sessions in Sedona who would be calling in on our new speakerphone during a future session. Tia's discussion on her pregnancy and her wish for triplets for her and Mark? She would get her wish and I would be proven right that they would be little hellions but in the best ways. Also, Korton's chat on the crystal statue at Palos Verdes California, the source of the information on the statue came from a New Age teacher of mine who had seen the details of the cave, the statue and the crystal at its feet. Now on to the full summary. Finally, the sound is clear for being a genesis tape but we recommend following to the transcript to catch the words missed in the sound mastering.

   Tia kicks off the channeling session in a lighthearted mood despite the heavies in the room in the form of Ashtar and Korton. Little did she know the night would descend into ring mistress hell. Getting going after explaining a cultural phenomenon, we start going over farsighting before veering off onto another cultural phenomenon. Returning to the topic, she provides some very helpful advice for anyone still struggling to astral project. We discuss an upcoming part of my astral travel training she was helping with by offering to take the lead in getting from Sirius to Centari Base if I could get us to Sirius. We next get a bit of Atlantean history from her part in that she was one of the seven races that came down we now refer to as elves. A lot of the planet's history is covered by her with Mark as the connecting point from one to the other. We end with her frank assessment on whether man and elves could ever coexist in the future. The special guest speaker to come on next is Ashtar and what we see is the definitive Ashtar, all business. With reports of our activities and conversations going to Ashtar as a regular course of receiving the information we did, he was taking the time to answer some of the questions Mark and I had been batting back and forth recently about the deeper knowledge regarding pyramid powers. To say it is jaw dropping is an understatement as that is what happened when Karra and I heard the recording for the first time in twenty-five years. Too much to post in this short summary, it's hard to believe we were given the green light to make it public. Leaving us wondering what just happened, Karra replaces a departing Ashtar and gets us near to the end of the tape. This next part is personal. Bonding in the higher dimensions is similar to marriage if past lives were to be taken into consideration and how one life is merely the bonding to the next with a soul mate. Our relationship is deeper still as twin souls so the question of Karra and our bonding was never far form my mind. I have made the suggestion and care took it from there. Indicative of our playful connection, it's Karra who gets down on one knee after I bring up the possibility of our being bond mates. Then it is a matter of asking her father's permission which would involve a trip to Sirius I would be getting some help in making. Next, Karra has a surprise for me in that she had tie-dyed a shirt she was wearing. It seems I had inadvertently created a higher dimensional Deadhead. She leaves with a reminder to keep my energy shields up around her dad followed up by a minute of two Omal channeling prior to the tape running out.

   Omal comes back to the topic that had been started about Ashtar manipulating a conversation in such a way that we received some very important information but through the coercion of our newest speaker to the archives and myself by Ashtar. We discussed the effects it was having on Luna as she would be the next to channel and the Base's hard work seems to have paid off. What was revealed was part of a trigger designed to key in certain memories of the listener. This evening's revelations by Ashtar on the Great Pyramid seemed to be a part of his making up for taking over the previous channeling. My attempts to clarify some of Ashtar's facts were mostly out of the allowed conversation range so move on to the channeling session planned for the future when a friend of mine and the Command's from Sedona would be able to call in during a channeling session on our new speakerphone. Raya was a part of the channeling sessions I attended back when I lived in Sedona and we became friends through my desire to learn more after a channel named Roger Pinion had channeled Omal and Korton. From there he introduces our newest addition to the Hades Base archives, Luna. As a historian, Luna was someone who was interested in our group for what we were trying to do and will be featured a number of future channeling sessions. For this session she was able to answer questions about elves that we had been curious about. One name came up in our research was Mr. Richard of Gloucester who Luna assured us only had a twisted understanding of their nature. From there I get from her a fuller knowledge on elves throughout our history. From the founding of Atlantis to what mental talents they posses. We have learned extensive knowledge on devas from Treebeard and now we were getting a look at another aspect of the elemental world. Tia comes back on between speakers to talk about all the parties coming up for births and bondings she's be a major factor in planning. With Omal's announcement of Tia's pregnancy, we could now start going over what her and Mark's offspring would be as far as genders. The tape is paused while Kiri comes into the channeling room to speak but has to leave almost immediately as her water suddenly breaks. Korton steps in to save the day and get us to the tape's end. Thanks to the subjects covered to this point, we re able to delve into crystals and the harmonic fields that can be generated by large rotating crystals. One he discusses as a reality is a dream of a teacher of mine had about a crystal cave in Palos Verdes. I knew of the effects he was talking about because I had stood in an area of a supposed crystal cave containing a statue of a crystal lady in front of a large crystal that can rotate. He confirms several possibilities I put forth on what such a combination can do and I begin to wonder what effect they would of had on me during my formative years living only miles away from such a cave. Every time we rehear this session we get more out of it and still find it hard to believe we were entrusted to pass on this information to you. It must good living, and good living, and good living and so on into eternity.              

In love, light, and wisdom as one,
Russ and Karra


TIA- Ring Mistress MARK CROCKER (Channel)


1.)(0:00)- Tia provides some tips on astral traveling and reveals that Karra has gotten big into the Grateful Dead because of me. We review as well a past life regression I had done on Mark that was very special.
2.)(19:07)- Ashtar confirms some amazing things about pyramids that Mark and I had speculated on in a recent conversation he and I had been having. He definitely gave us some avenues for experimentation.
3.)(26:18)- Karra agrees to our bonding which is even more special than a marriage on the base and Sirius. It's my task then to ask her father for his permission once I can locate him on Sirius. I would later.

1.)(0:00)-  Omal explains an incident where our newest speaker to channel became a conduit for the release of information. We also discuss an upcoming channeling session involving a friend from Sedona.
2.)(12:58)- Luna, our newest speaker, shares with us her knowledge of elves and their history. She explains how they lost the memory that they were part of the colonists who settled Atlantis from Sirius.
3.)(21:40)- as the only bonded member of our group on the base, Tia plans to help with the upcoming bonding ceremonies. Tonight is the night though where we get confirmation she is pregnant with the Cubs.
4.)(25:16)-  Kiri is on for only the shortest of times before she suddenly realizes her water is broke and she is no longer able to channel. The event was ahead of the time for when it was planned.
5.)(26:34)- Korton steps in to channel so we go over the past life regression I had done on Mark and the items of power he had in that life. We also get his take on the crystal cave of Palos Verdes California.
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(Tia is trading off with Karra for ring mistress duties for this session)

Tia: so quite and peaceful.

Russ: even nicer.

Tia: oohhhhh.

Russ: have to get used to it too.

Tia: yes.

Russ: it's a permanent condition.

Tia: oohhh, goody. Well, how's it functioning Russ?

Russ: within specified parameters.

Tia: okay. So, how's work going?

Russ: oh, not bad, not bad.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: a little slow down here right now.

Tia: is that good or bad?

Russ: it's kinda good. Not too busy but kinda boring.

Tia: boring?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: I wish I had time to be bored.

Russ: well, I got a chance to do a lot of transcribing on the tapes from before, specifically your one on how to farsighting tape.

Tia: oh, how to farsight.

Russ: yes, it came off quite well.

Tia: oh goody.

Russ: I was able to add a few things into it that you hadn't mentioned before.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: well I've got one or two questions.

Tia: can I ask a question first?

Russ: of course.

Tia: can I become a business partner?

Russ: hmm, sure.

Tia: in your little venture with your audio

Russ: absolutely.

Tia: oh goody.

Russ: Tia and company.

Tia: uh-huh. And I've got another question.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: what's this Ta-Ta-Ta-Tia Pet?

Russ: Ta-Ta-Ta-Tia Pet?

Tia: hmmm?

Russ: it's all about a cha-cha-cha-Chia Pet.

Tia: what's that?

Russ: well you remember the movie "Wayne's World?"

Tia: "excellent dude, party on Garth".

Russ: that's them. In the very first part of the movie they show a commercial for a thing called a Chia Pet that we have down here.

Tia: ahh.

Russ: a little clay figurine that you spread a little mud with seeds in it. Pour water on it and it sprouts.

Tia: ahh.

Russ: it's all covered in green.

Tia: okay, so what's happening?

Russ: well, you seem excitable this evening?

Tia: what makes you say that?

Russ: your leg's going like crazy, your hands are going like crazy, just a wild guess.

Tia: oh, well I' to do.

Russ: okay. Suppose we start off first off with the farsighting and then we'll go to the regression.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: all right? So starting off with the farsighting now.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: during the transcribing I did tonight, I saw something that was almost passed up concerning shutting off the internal dialogue.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: are there any known techniques that you might be able to share with me on doing so?

Tia: yes, first of all, listen to things. Before you're going into the farsighting, just listen to what's going around you.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh. And then, you'll hear silence. You may hear cars passing by down the road, you may hear......let me think....felines playing around near you.

Russ: I just put a clock in my room that ticks pretty loud.

Tia: uh-huh, that's a good one. And then slowly it will just fade away. There's a song that goes on about fading away.

Russ: yeah, the Grateful Dead.

Tia: how's it go?

Russ: "you know my love but don't fade away".

Tia: uh-huh, you know who likes the Grateful Dead up here?

Russ: Karra?

Tia: uh-huh, your ba-ba-babesky.

Russ: you betcha, I've got her hooked now.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good, got two more concerts coming up for her.

Tia: yeah, she's looking forward to it.

Russ: all right.

Tia: you're going to have to bring up some Dead tapes with you for her to listen to.

Russ: I will.

Tia: I've been listening to Mark's type of music. I like more....

(Tia launches into Beethoven's Fifth)

Russ: Beethoven.

Tia: or.......

(Tia now launches into some Mussorgsky)

Tia: come on, tell me what one that is.

Russ: that is Night on Bald Mountain.

Tia: no.

Russ: Pictures at an Exhibition.

Tia: yes.

Russ: one of the two.

Tia: okay, right.

Russ: okay, now I assume then that the internal dialogue shutting off is a major key.

Tia: could be.

Russ: and then I turn it on again after leaving.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: right?

Tia: for navigational purposes.

Russ: correct.

Tia: uh-huh. But you'll get to a stage where it's not necessary to due to the fact that you'll get out of your body so quick that it doesn't really matter anymore. But in the early stages, it is necessary for the internal dialogue to be shut down. Then, having achieved this, you can slowly lift out of your body having gone through all the breathing cycles and opening up and closing up and energy loops and what's cha ma call its and thingamajigys. Got all that?

Russ: got all that.

Tia: okay. Then you rise up out of your body and you're free, freeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

Russ: been hitting the flower garden again?

Tia: no, I'm just full of life.

Russ: glad to hear it.

Tia: uh-huh. No, I'm not in that kind of mood, I just want to enjoy life.

Russ: well good, it is Easter.

Tia: Easter?

Russ: Easter Sunday.

Tia: oh, that religious.......

Russ: yeah.

Tia: it's not Sunday anymore.

Russ: no, that's true.

Tia: that religious thingamajigy of yours.

Russ: you betcha.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: Spring celebration.

Tia: Spring has sprung, sproing.

Russ: all right, can I get a critique on this morning's farsighting session.

Tia: do you want me to criticize that?

Russ: sure.

Tia: I'm not going to, I'm going to build up your confidence. Bummer?

Russ: no, just kidding.

Tia: something you need is to build up your confidence. The only thing I can criticize on is that you do not give yourself enough credit for trying.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: you always want to be criticized, you do not want to be praised and it's time for you to be praised. Now, you did an excellent job. Did you enjoy the massage?

Russ: wonderful massage.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: did you enjoy the ice cream?

Tia: oh yeah, where did you get that from?

Russ: I get it down from here usually.

Tia: you brought it with you?

Russ: no....

Tia: oh, Mr. Smarty-pants.

Russ: I think it was kinda brought along once I got there.

Tia: ahh, somebody plugged in and helped you to manifest it, huh?

Russ: that's right.

Tia: yes well, I'll ask him. I've got another use for ice cream.

Russ: great.

Tia: no, god, clear your mind, it's way down in the gutter. Food fight.

Russ: okay, now.....

Tia: no, that comes later.

Russ: a silver suit.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: does that stop the pull from the body?

Tia: yeah. Kind of cuts you off totally, doesn't it?

Russ: yeah, I was going to say, because I was up there more than an hour.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: which is pretty much of a record for me.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: and it seems that's the trick.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: did Karra give you a full body massage on you?

Russ: much refreshed.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: were there any like pinpoint leakage areas on that stage.....?

Tia: a few, a few around the seams. The top of the head and the bottom of the feet.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I have to find the strong points and the weak points to work on.

Tia: yeah. You could probably do double the thickness on those.

Russ: double thickness, good.

Tia: and you need to be a little bit more mirror-like on the inside.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: a lot more mirror-like.

Russ: okay. Now then, where are we going off to on Tuesday?

Tia: let me see. How about doing a double trip?

Russ: a double trip?

Tia: yeah, both of them.

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: the next step.

Russ: okay, a double trip it is.

Tia: okay, we'll go to Sirius and then Centauri.

Russ: okay.

Tia: new coordinate for you. From Sirius to Centauri, 227.021. Can you repeat?

Russ: 227.021?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: got it. What's that?

Tia: that's the coordinates from leaving Sirius to Centauri.

Russ: oh.

Tia: okay?

Russ: got it.

Tia: but I will help you with that. But, and this is a big but, you will be leading the way to Sirius.

Russ: ahh.

Tia: and then I will be riding alongside you to Centauri and from Centauri we will be riding again, me behind you following up and you'll be leading the way.

Russ: oh good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now then....

Tia: incy wincy spider went climbing up the spout, down came the rain and washed poor incy out.

Russ: okay. Now then, on the birth.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: any way for me to get notice of the birth about a half-hour beforehand?

Tia: yeah sure, we can let you know at the channeling session what's happening.

Russ: oh imagine that, right.

Tia: yeah, don't you think ahead?

Russ: yeah, I forgot that we were going to do that channeling session.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ I figured with the birth coming up we wouldn't have time.

Tia: oh, we've got time.

Russ: oh, okay then.

Tia: don't forget what Kornas' prediction was so we're going to do it a little bit earlier than normal.

Russ: 23:00 hours.

Tia: uh-huh. We're going to do it at 22:00 hours., the channeling session.

Russ: oh, 22:00 hours.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, got it.

Tia: or maybe a little bit earlier still.

Russ: okay. All right....

(Tia blows a raspberry)

Russ: now then, onto the regression.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, why was it stopped at that point?

Tia: okay, down to business, hmm?

Russ: hands-on hip, is this?

Tia: yes this is.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, now we're going to go into a few questions here where some might be answered and some might not be answered.

Tia: well, Omal's kind of sitting talking to Miss Secretary historian so he's preoccupied. I'll see what I can do.

Russ: okay. Well then, we'll start from square one. Is that Maxxus' sword?

Tia: oohhh, I don't know. You'd have to ask....

Russ: Omal.

Tia: or.......

Russ: Korton?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Tia: now I'm not blowing you off, I'm telling you the truth. I don't know.

Russ: I understand. Okay, now then, where did the ones with the pointed ears......yourself come from?

Tia: come on.

Russ: different planet from the original Atlanteans?

Tia: the original Atlanteans were made up out of many groups of people. They were a group of people that came together, so rumor has it, that decided they wanted to create a world that, although struggle would be necessary, they could leave behind all the things that they disliked. And they all had one goal to settle down and to create a world with perfect harmony, balance between their species and nature, but they brought a disease with them.

Russ: oh oh.

Tia: the disease of corruption of the mind...

Russ: ohhh.

Tia: lust for power. Somebody wanting to lord it over the others so they created this council........

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: to help put a stop to this. Hopefully by peaceful means, if not by using metaphysical capabilities and failing that by bloodshed.

Russ: ahhhh. So where did the pointed eared ones come into this, they were one of the groups that were part of this?

Tia: yes, there are one of the main groups.

Russ: I get it. Okay.

Tia: don't forget, there were many thousands of them. Well not many thousands but close to about 20,000 of them.

Russ: now did Mark open up a doorway for them then to go off at that point.......

Tia: yes.

Russ: before you stopped him?

Tia yes, that was the reason why I stopped him.

Russ: because that was a doorway into another dimension? So they actually could travel anywhere except to from where the point where they were standing practically?

Tia: I don't know, I don't know. You'd have to again ask the accompanying historian and secretary.

Russ: good. Now then, the lightning that struck his sword.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: is that a memory clue then?

Tia: yeah, that awoke him, it awoked his memory from the past.

Russ: okay.

Tia: you see, putting the whole entire combination together and on the suit of armor and the sword and myself, that started to awaken, that's what drew him out onto the promontory, you see?

Russ: hmmm.

Tia: and from there the lightning striking the sword caused severe mental damage and he briefly died but opened up the pathways for his memories to be activated.

Russ: wow.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now, can we explore other lives besides that one?

Tia: certainly.

Russ: without getting shut down too quickly?

Tia: depends what sort of life it is.

Russ: okay. I'll just play around with what we've got anyway.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: should we get help first?

Tia: yes, it might be best to channel beforehand.

Russ: okay, so channeling first, all right.

Tia: do you have more questions for me?

Russ: one or two, yeah.

Tia: okay.

Russ: how did you move the boat, is that with PK?

Tia: Mark moved the boat.

Russ: Mark moved the boat?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I didn't realize he was doing it. Now that's something. He didn't, during the regression, he seemed like he was more or less kind of lost as far as what was going on, just kind of watching.

Tia: on for the ride.

Russ: right. But back then, it would've been different, he knew what was going on.

Tia: yes.

Russ: okay.

Tia: his subconscious would know what's going on.

Russ: oh.

Tia: not him.

Russ: so that is why he is kind of lost in this one?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: oh I get it, okay. Now any idea on whether the elves and man can exist together again if that doorway were opened up?

Tia: I doubt it very much.

Russ: okay.

Tia: because you, man, has become too aggressive, will not tolerate change. Take some of your popular entertainment for example.

Russ: yeah, it's pretty violent.

Tia: uh-huh. Especially the fictional future programs. Like what's Mark's favorite comment about the movie "Alien"? His chest explodes?

Russ: oh yeah.

To: what's it, who's this? Something moving around inside his chest?

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: okay. But now what connection do the elves have with you guys up there?

Tia: I'm sorry, I cannot disclose that.

Russ: okay, that's it.

Tia: that's it, okay.

Russ: that's it.

Tia: thank you for an enjoyable conversation.

Russ: thank you Tia. You off for now?

Tia: yes I am. Possibly I may be back in a little while. We will see how things go.

Russ: okay. Going to track down Mark?

Tia: no, I'm going to wait and see what happens here first.

Russ: okay.

Tia: now have an enjoyable evening........

Russ: all right.

Tia: and I know I'm being frightfully formal all of a sudden.....

Russ: oh that's all right.

Tia: but that will be explained.

Russ: excellent. Okay, thank you Tia.

Tia: you're welcome. I'm honored to be here. Bye

Russ: bye.

(Ashtar is tonight's guest of honor)

Ashtar: greetings and felicitations Mr. Hatfield.

Russ: greetings Korton.

Ashtar: try again please.

Russ: ahh, Ashtar.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: greetings and felicitations.

Ashtar: it may amuse me sometimes to pretend to be other people.

Russ: well, this evening you're serious I take it.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: now, concerning your brainstorming questions that you were discussing the other evening after your channeling session.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: I believe it was Thursday morning, correct?

Russ: correct.

Ashtar: okay, now, certain questions occurred at the time concerning the purpose of the pyramids. Such as, are they communication devices?

Russ: correct.

Ashtar: yes they are. Are they teleportation devices? Yes they are.

Russ: uh-huh.

Ashtar: are they information collection devices? Yes they are. And there is more besides that will become clear later. All pyramids built to the specifications of the Great Pyramid are collection devices for information. Some to a greater or lesser extent. Again, with certain materials, they can also be used for communication. And again, with certain materials, for teleportation both physically and astrally. However, it is unwise to experiment at the present with materials pertaining to the teleportation device. You do not have the technology or the power supply to do so.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: so any present wish to experiment is inadvisable due to the failure that will occur and may affect you physically or mentally.

Russ: well we're not too anxious to try that right now anyway.

Ashtar: good. Do you have more questions?

Russ: yes.

Ashtar: proceed.

Russ: okay. Are there more crystals within pyramids that are around the earth?

(Ed. note: such as the one found in an underwater pyramid by a dentist)

Ashtar: that is for you to find out.

Russ: do the crystals turning in one direction or the other affect the energy levels in those areas?

Ashtar: again, that is for you to find out.

Russ: would, after Mark has experimented, be advisable for me to possibly check these places out?

Ashtar: only after discussion on what has occurred.

Russ: okay. Was Mark involved with the building of the Great Pyramid?

Ashtar: that is a correct assumption. Next question.

Russ: okay. That's it.

Ashtar: no more questions?

Russ: anymore that I get, would get into some dangerous ground. I don't want to go into that right now.

Ashtar: let's find out how dangerous, proceed.

Russ: okay. Is the Earth's magnetic force field controlled by these pyramids?

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay. Is the Earth's tilt controlled by these pyramids?

Ashtar: no.

Russ: okay. Could the Earth's rotational field the affected by these pyramids?

Ashtar: depending on several circumstances that would have to occur for it to affect the rotational field.

Russ: okay, so what it is is a source of power of unimaginable proportions.

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay. Is the pyramid in Egypt connected with the pyramid on Mars?

Ashtar: we cannot answer that at present because you are not ready for that kind of information.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: although I feel that you have certain ideas that they are.

Russ: correct.

Ashtar: those are ideas only at present.

Russ: okay. Is it advisable for Mark possibly to check out the pyramid on Mars?

Ashtar: not at present. When the time is appropriate you will know.

Russ: okay. Are there pyramids on the moon?

Ashtar: that is irrelevant information.

Russ: okay. Is the pyramid.....

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay. Can it be so again?

Ashtar: possibly, with practice.

Russ: okay. And, we can go to you guys on Hades Base for advice in all phases of our experimentation from this point on?

Ashtar: yes, correct, you can.

Russ: okay, preferably before we try anything.

Ashtar: preferably.

Russ: okay. Excellent.

Ashtar: that is all.

Russ: thank you.

(Karra now takes on one of her early roles as ring mistress)

Karra: greetings beanpole, coast is clear now.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: what happened?

Russ: whew.

Karra: there was a question where you started to ask something about a pyramid and he just said yes.

Russ: I was about to ask were landing areas for UFOs?

Karra: and he said what?

Russ: yes.

Karra: and he explained something.

Russ: and I said could they be so again and he says yes.

Karra: yes with practice. I don't understand that little bit about practice. Practice on construction? Probably.

Russ: probably. Or else Taal would just have to get it right the first time.

(Ed. note: one of the base pilots)

Karra: yes. Could be a very pointy matter.

Russ: oh, that's horrible.

Karra: come on, give me a break, I'm not a comedian.

Russ: you're getting close.

Karra: oh yeah?

Russ: have fun today?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: good. Enjoy the ice cream?

Karra: I've got better uses for ice cream.

Russ: yes.

Karra: hmm? We exchange ideas. Tia is sitting here giggling.

Russ: I can imagine. I've got a very important question for you.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: when will we do a bonding?

Karra: whenever you wish. I am an old-fashioned lady that likes to do it formally. The request, presumably that was a request?

Russ: yes it was.

Karra: aren't you going to get down on one knee and ask me? Aren't you meant to........hold on, let's see if I can do this.

(Russ laughs as she gets on one knee)

Russ: do I have to ask your father or anything?

Karra: if you can find him.

Russ: okay, that should be a good one.

Karra: uh-huh. And I'll give you a clue on where he lives.

Russ: oh.

Karra: okay? He lives on Sirius....

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: and, hold on a second. Okay, Tia says she'll do it.

Russ: oh, great.

Karra: uh-huh. I'm going to give her a letter of introduction......

Russ: okay.

Karra: and she is going to take it with her. She is going to go tonight to give the letter of introduction to explain everything....

Russ: okay.

Karra: she will take you to his place of residence.

Russ: excellent. So we'll go to there from Hades Base in the fifth and just stay in the fifth.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: and won't switch over back to third.

Karra: no.

Russ: perfect. What is your father like? Should he have a shotgun like I should watch out for?

Karra: no.

Russ: what are you doing with daughter type of thing?

Karra: no. But be careful, that's where Kiri gets her coercion from.

(Russ laughs again)

Russ: oh boy.

Karra: and he's a manifestor and he's a PK person, psychokinesis.

Russ: PK head.

Karra: uh-huh, and that is what he specializes in.

(Russ whistles)

Russ: so I could be tossed out the door without him actually touching me?

Karra: that is where I get my mellowness from, my sensibleness from.

Russ: I can see that.

Karra: uh-huh. I would like to go but unfortunately I have work to do.

Russ: so you get your healing from your mom I take it?

Karra: yes.

Russ: hmm, is she up there?

Karra: no. My mother is waiting rebirth.

Russ: I'm sorry to hear that.

Karra: that's quite all right.

Russ: okay.

Karra: she was much older than my father.

Russ: oh. Okay, well I look forward to meeting your dad anyway.

Karra: you'll enjoy yourself.

Russ: hi pops.

Karra: just remember, be very polite to him.

Russ: serious or......?

Karra: yes, very serious.

Russ: serious on Sirius.

Karra: uh-huh. He's very well educated as well. Even for our standards, he's extremely educated.

Russ: to have a daughter like you he'd have to be.

Karra: oh thank you.

Russ: it's obvious.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay great, I look forward to it.

Karra: uh-huh. And guess who gets my mother's rebelliousness?

Russ: Kiri.

Karra: uh-huh. But she did go and ask our father when she wanted to get bonded.

Russ: oh.

Karra: uh-huh..

Russ: okay.

Karra: she went and asked him if it was all right.

Was: so in other words, your dad is getting all this requests all of a sudden.

Karra: well, Kiri had it planned. She asked about....oh, two months ago. She sent Tia to ask for her taking a little package.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll have to practice my manifestation and bring a nice bottle of wine or something.

Karra: no, just go as you are.

Russ: that always kind of worries me, meeting the prospective father.

Karra: uh-huh. He's very serious but can be mischievous as well.

Russ: okay.

Karra: but whatever you do, don't upset him.

Russ: okay.

Karra: be polite.

Russ: agreed, I'll be scared to death.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay.

Russ: all right, on the birth....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: are you going to be doing the delivery?

Karra: yes I am.

Russ: okay, so I'm going to be waiting outside then?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: I don't know if I'll be able to channel that night. I might be sitting with Kiri keeping her nice and calm.

Russ: I understand. That's all right.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I'll see you afterwards.

Karra: of course.

Russ: anyway, today the farsighting.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: that was kind of cute, the Wonderful Wizard of Oz?

Karra: yes.

Russ: we're off to see the wizard.

Karra: uh-huh, "the wonderful Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz".....oh, before I forget.....

Russ: yes?

Karra: can I come?

Russ: to where?

Karra: "trucking, down on Bourbon Street...."

Russ: oh, of course you can, I would not have it any other way.

Karra: "riding that train, high on cocaine........".

Russ: absolutely.

Karra: "lift up your mind and float downstream". Wasn't that done by another group?

Russ: the Beatles, yes. And the Grateful Dead tried it.

Karra: hmm. Yes, it was amusing. Oh by the way.....

Russ: yes?

Karra: guess what I'm wearing at the moment?

Russ: nothing? Wishful thinking.

Karra: try again.

Russ: that cute, little short.....

Karra: no.

Russ: no?

Karra: something very Deadish.

Russ: tie-dye?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: no.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: what did you do? Do a tie-dye for yourself?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: ohh, I've got a deadhead, all right.

Karra: yep, you've done it this time boy.

Russ: well wear it to the concert.

Karra: okay.

Russ: I better not tell your dad about this though.

Karra: no. That you've corrupted his daughter.

Russ: yes, he'll definitely PK me right out of the house.

Karra: uh-huh. Oh, before I forget, have your shields on maximum.

Russ: oh boy. You did mention him and farsighting.

Karra: yeah, it's going to be a workout for you.

Russ: big time workout.

Karra: Tia may change the plans on going to Alpha Centauri.

Russ: well let's go ahead and let's go with original plans. I might want to wait a week before I go to your dad's just yet so I can practice shielding and farsighting at the same time.

Karra: okay.

Russ: right now I can't do shielding.

Karra: coward.

Russ: well, that's only fair.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: besides, when we go bonding, I want to have full solidity if I can.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and length, I want to be there for a while.

Karra: okay. I'm going to go off and find Mark and Kiri and tell them the good news.

Russ: okay, excellent.

Karra: I've got to tell Kiri to keep her mouth shut so she doesn't send any messages to our father.

Russ: yeah, let it be a surprise.

Karra: uh-huh, because she'll be excited.

Russ: yeah, I don't want to give him any ideas of who I am just yet.

Karra: no, I'll tell her to behave herself.

Russ: all right, thank you.

Karra: okay.

Russ: okay, bye Karra. I'll see you later.

(Omal gets us over to side two)

Omal: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: Korton......Omal.

Omal: yes. Korton is unavailable. Wishful thinking though maybe that you wished to communicate with him.

Russ: I don't know, he was pretty upset this morning.

Omal: well....

Russ: well serious anyway.

Omal: there were certain things that occurred that annoyed him intently.

Russ: who me?

Omal: no.

Russ: oh good.

Omal: concerning the........




(Omal now continues with what he has been saying)

Omal: .........said during a channeling session that was happening.

Russ: oh, Luna.

Omal: yes.

Russ: well I thought her releasing information that she didn't......

Omal: Luna had nothing to do with that whatsoever. That was a necessary trigger, so I was informed, and yes I am a little bit annoyed about it.

Russ: oh, so we were right on that subject?

Omal: yes, after all.....

Russ: she was used horribly.

Omal: yes. After all, who is the head of Hades Base here?

Russ: you are.

Omal: correct. So, when something like that happens or somebody comes up with an idea, are meant to come to me and then proceed. Even if it is Ashtar.

Russ: how is she doing now?

Omal: we did a pretty good job on patching her together. We got her ego back up, her self-esteem back up and.....

Russ: she's not terrified against channeling again?

Omal: she's a little bit scared and she will be channeling. We used one of your earth analogies about falling off a horse and getting straight back on?

Russ: oh good, that's a good analogy.

Omal: yes.

Russ: well, it was effective, I have to admit that.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: it accomplished more than I can almost imagine.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but yeah, it should've been gone through you.

Omal: of course.

Omal: he agreed with Ashtar's approach that he didn't have time. All's he had to do was ask telepathically which he did not. And.....

Russ: was he afraid you guys might say no or something?

Omal: what Ashtar has in mind is Ashtar's business.

Russ: oh.

Omal: but Korton and myself disagreed intently for the first time in a long time on this issue.

Russ: oh. Is that what that was?

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh, yeah because he wasn't speaking to nobody.

Omal: Ashtar sometimes interferes where it's not necessary.

Russ: okay.

Omal: unfortunately causes friction occasionally which can be a very beneficial thing.

Russ: well was the topic that was mentioned like not supposed to be mentioned?

Omal: we assumed that it was not to be mentioned.

Russ: so that's why when you told Luna not to say anything and then all of a sudden that was all she wrote.

Omal: yeah. She was very confused because she didn't realize what she had said.

Russ: right.

Omal: she was totally unaware of what was happening at that point.

Russ: oh, so she channeled......

Omal: yes, basically.

Russ: basically, right.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Omal: she was coerced and it was only briefly whilst the information was released and then the link was broken.

Russ: oh, because I was going to say it was really strange how that all started off.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: one minute we're just talking, the next minute, "do you have any questions on history?"

Omal: yes, that was Luna at that point when she was starting to be coerced. And then when it got to your concerned question about the Great Pyramid.....

Russ: I assume I was coerced at that point.

Omal: yes, there was a lot of coercion going on.

Russ: I can imagine. But that was not a question I had set to ask there, it wasn't even written down.

Omal: it just happened.

Russ: right.

Omal: I must congratulate you on the silence in the room and the temperature.

Russ: oh, thank you. It is an improvement by a long shot.

Omal: yes.

Russ: now we have clearer recordings, much more so.

Omal: of course.

Russ: excellent.

Omal: okay now, let's get serious for a minute.

Russ: okay.

Omal: oh, by the way, congratulations.

Russ: on what?

Omal: your proposal.

Russ: oh, thank you, I hope you'll be there.

Omal: yes, I am glad to be the first to congratulate you.

Russ: I'm glad you are, I have been thinking about it for quite a bit.

Omal: uh-huh. Are you going to get her pregnant and barefoot?

Russ: yes.....

Omal: in the kitchen?

Russ: in the kitchen, right.

(Russ starts to laugh)

Russ: but I won't tell her that of course.

Omal: she may enjoy it.

Russ: she might enjoy it now that I think about it, she is a motherly kind of girl.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Omal: the sixth one for her, with luck.

Russ: okay, now Ashtar's questions there just a few minutes ago.........

Omal: yes?

Russ: and my questions.........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: some of this stuff goes to you, some of this stuff goes to Luna.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay. Now, some of this stuff to you........oh, is Tia there?

Omal: yes she is.

Russ: oh good. Okay now then, the question was, was that Maxxus' sword? She said you might know.

Omal: I can't release that kind of information. I'm sorry, I'm trying to be cooperative.

Russ: oh that's all right, I'm rather glad I asked you and not Luna to where we had the same problem we had last time.

Omal: well we've already discussed issues that she can discuss and she will ask me if there is a question so be prepared that she may ask a question that may be directed at me but you may hear it.

Russ: okay, I'll just be quiet for a few.

Omal: okay.

Russ: okay, now then, that's my next question. What are my guidelines for questions here? So I'm not asking stuff that's just going to be confirmed nor denied.

Omal: there are no guidelines for the simple reason how can you find out what questions to ask and what questions not to ask? With Luna, do not ask questions that would put her in a bad situation.

Russ: okay, I'll try to save a few words for you then.

Omal: okay.

Russ: now, going onto the armor....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now Tia says that was insulation and it was made of the same material.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: we're talking about an armored suit made of meteorite.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: we're talking about ancient history at that point.

Omal: yes?

Russ: so, we can assume a lot of things from that.

Omal: such as?

Russ: stuff that I can't ask you because you can't confirm it.

Omal: true.

Russ: such as, did it come from Atlantis?

Omal: true.

Russ: that is confirmation or.......?

Omal: no. That is neither confirmed nor denied.

(that gets Russ laughing hard)

Russ: sure sounded good for a second though.

Omal: didn't it? You've got to admit.

Russ: I was like, "oh my God, he said after this".

Omal: and don't ask me about that, otherwise.......

Russ: I won't.

Omal: I shall show you a side of me that you do not want to meet.

Russ: I never want to meet that side if I don't have to either.

Omal: no.

Russ: okay. Now, any idea on what the connection of Richard of Gloucester had with the elves?

Omal: ask Luna, she would have more access to that.

Russ: oh good. I have an idea of what I can ask her.

Omal: uh-huh. In fact, she is pounding away on her typewriter that is connected into a computer like crazy when you asked that.

Russ: okay, that's good. Now then, let me go back to my list here. Oh yes, we have a speakerphone.......

Omal: oh, good.

Russ: that we picked up.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm going to send Raya out the tapes tomorrow......

Omal: good.

Russ: so that she can get an idea of what the sessions sound like first before we work on get her connected up on the speakerphone.

Omal: good.

Russ: I don't want any surprises here.

Omal: you don't want Tia getting all anxious over the telephone.

Russ: no.

Omal: Tia is being taken care of on that.

Russ: okay, that's good. We won't worry about that then.

Omal: we have reasons to believe that they have conceived.

Russ: ahhhhhh, well congratulations on all counts, hopefully.

Omal: hopefully, yes.

Russ: right.

Omal: we shall have the results back from the test and Tia is aware that we did test her to see if she was pregnant. So we're not hiding this as Karra tried to.

Russ: okay, not very successfully.

Omal: no. Perhaps you ought to work out some hand signals some time.

Russ: we'll work on it. Now then, talking with Raya, are we going to be dealing strictly with farsighting but are we going to open this up to general questions once in a while also?

Omal: we will see how things proceed.

Russ: okay but in discussing this with the Raya for now, let her know that we'll just dealing with farsighting...

Omal: yes.

Russ: for the first part here.

Omal: well actually, for the very first time it will be reacquainting ourselves with each other.

Russ: ahh, I see, okay.

Omal: okay, now I'd like to clear up something.

Russ: sure.

Omal: the other day when you were discussing the plans with Mark for the channeling sessions with Raya, you seem to be laboring under the impression that we will do this channeling session with Raya and then that will be it, end of session. That is true to a certain extent apart from we will take a break and that will be the end of the channeling session with Raya and then we can get down to other business after the break.

Russ: ahh.

Omal: it is important that you explain this to the channeler so he doesn't do a dimension jump.

Russ: oh okay, excellent.

Omal: okay?

Russ: I'll explain it when he gets back.

Omal: right.

Russ: now, so go ahead and when should we start working on setting this up? After she has the tapes and stuff?

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay, so I'll keep in conversation with her.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and we'll be testing out the speakerphone to make sure how it works.

Omal: excellent.

Russ: have it all set up for the time when we're going to do it.

Omal: excellent.

Omal: okay....

Russ: that's it.

Omal: I am going to hand over to a very shy young lady.....

Russ: okay.

Omal: who goes by the name of.....

Russ: Luna.

Omal: yes.

Russ: I only have a couple questions for her so I'll make it short.

Omal: okay.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and I will sit here and I will hold her hand and Tia is......if you could see this you would giggle.

Russ: I'm sure I would.

Omal: Tia has her foot on her lap going, "this little piggy went to market".

(Russ finds that funny)

Omal: and I think Luna is enjoying herself. Well, okay, I will now hand over.......

Russ: thank you Omal.

Omal: so, be careful.........

Russ: all right.

Omal: don't forget, do not ask questions that will put Luna in an awkward position.

Russ: all right, good deal.

(We hear from Luna for the first time in the archives)

Luna: greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Luna. How are you doing?

Luna: how am I? How are you?

Russ: I am doing very good.

Luna: okay.

Russ: sorry for the incident the other night.

Luna: yes, thank you.

Russ: it was out of our control if I understand right.

Luna: yes. I've never met Ashtar so I didn't know what was happening. And the way Omal described it, it seemed that I was the perfect tool.

Russ: well that is the way he works sometimes.

Luna: yes.

Russ: I'm quite used to it. It takes a while to get used to it.

Luna: okay.

Russ: right, I'd like to go......

Luna: what's that?

Russ: oh, that's probably the heater.

Luna: oh.

Russ: now, Omal said I could ask you a question about Mr. Richard of Gloucester.

Luna: oh yes.

Russ: and the connection he had with elves.

Luna: as far as I can tell, he disbelieved in elves but he had an interest in dark magic.

Russ: ohh.

Luna: he assumed that his power was something to do with his belief in it. But it's very hard to deduce the facts.

Russ: so if he thought they were witches?

Luna: yes.

Russ: they would've thought he was dealing with black magic.

Luna: yes, and using it to his advantage.

Russ: oh I see. So to him it just represented power?

Luna: yes, a means to an ends.

Russ: I see.

Luna: uh-huh.

Russ: real nasty work there.

Luna: no worse than some of the other people then.

Russ: that's true, power was the main.....

Luna: the goal.

Russ: sure, motivation for a lot of people back then.

Luna: uh-huh.

Russ: still is sometimes.

Luna: yes.

Russ: okay. You might want to ask Omal if you can answer this or not but the question is, where did they go?

Luna: can I answer that one Omal? He says no.

Russ: okay, we'll move on from that.

Luna: okay.

Russ: okay. What marked them as being different from others such as powers and stuff?

Luna: marked who?

Russ: the elves.

Luna: oh. They.......Omal, can I answer that one? Yeah, okay.

Russ: okay.

Luna: they believed that it was a gift from their spirits.

Russ: oh.

Luna: they were more of a pale imitation of what they were. They did not know their full history of where they came from. They knew that they had been on the planet a long time but they did not know what they were.

Russ: oh.

Luna: they mainly had manifestation, telepathy, and farsighting and a few of them had psychokinesis.

Russ: what about precognition?

Luna: they believed that that was messages from their spirits that came in.

Russ: oh I see. So that fits in real well with our legends.

Luna: yes.

Russ: ahhh, okay. Now did they have extended lifetimes?

Luna: yes they do. In fact, an elf born at the time of the Duke of Gloucester would possibly still be alive now although there would be a decrease in their life expectancy now so that they would look old or possibly be even dying.

Russ: now our legends say that they have difficulty with procreation.

Luna: yes, that is why they live a long time.

Russ: oh, I see. Okay, so they just forgot basically their origins.

Luna: yes, they did.

Russ: oh, so they found themselves sort of at war with the humans still.

Luna: yes they did because they did not know whence they came from.

Russ: it must've been a terrible position they were put in.

Luna: well, they didn't know any other way.

Russ: that's true.

Luna: yeah.

Russ: well could you ask Omal if you can answer what happens to them after they died?

Luna: Omal, what happens to them when they die? He says that it's not that right? Not necessary for you to know at present.

Russ: okay.

Luna: did I get that right Omal? I did fine.

Russ: well you're doing very well this time.

Luna: yes, he's sitting here generating feelings of contentment, he's helping me a lot.

Russ: well good. Yes, it's quite impressive. When I went up there today.....

Luna: yes?

Russ: I didn't sense you anywhere around.

Luna: no.

Russ: were you busy?

Luna: yes, I had a lot of work to do.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Luna: would you like to come over for some drinks next time you're up here?

Russ: yes I would as a matter fact. I'll look forward to stopping by. I know where you're at now.

Luna: okay.

Russ: good. And you heard I assume the news about Karra and I bonding?

Luna: yes, she told me just as she was leaving. When I do secretarial work, I hear the words but they....they.....I don't know what the words would be. Omal, what are the words I'm looking for? Oh, I hear the words but they don't mean much......anything.

Russ: right.

Luna: of course I am busy with my.......seca......seca.......

Russ: secretarial?

Luna: thank you.

Russ: now you being a historian.....

Luna: yes?

Russ: is this interesting for you now because it's sort of like history in the making?

Luna: yes. All that happens around me I keep in my journal. All the people I entertain, I keep a record in my journal.

Russ: oh, okay. Well I look forward to coming up and being entertained and being in your journal.

Luna: yes, goodbye.

Russ: goodbye.

(Tia returns to spend time talking before handing off to Kiri)

Tia: it amuses you?

Russ: yes it does. Hi Tia.

Tia: hey man.

(Tia tries to sing some Pink Floyd)

Tia: "Hey dude, out there in the cold, smoking".........I can't ad lib.

Russ: that was well done though.

Tia: uh-huh.

(we sing a little of Pink Floyd's "The Wall")

Tia: okay.

Russ: all right.

Tia: who's Goldie Hawn?

Russ: she's an actress.

Tia: ahh.

Russ: she's the "boo boop de boop" girl.

Tia: "boo boop de boop".

Russ: that's it.

Tia: okay.

Russ: right.

Tia: where does that come from?

Russ: "Laugh In", an old 60s program.

Tia: uh-huh. No, never mind, it's before my time. Hey that's good, that's good coordination.

Russ: that is very good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: so you'll be at the bonding party I take it?

Tia: yep.

Russ: excellent.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: there will be a lot of parties this month.

Tia: yep. As I am the only one that is already bonded.....

Russ: yes?

Tia: it seems like I'm going to be giving a lot of advise

Russ: yes, a lot of parties.

Tia: uh-huh. Well one I'm already organizing on a small scale.

Russ: okay, that's true.

Tia: yeah. Did Omal tell you that I may be....?

Russ: yes, in the family way.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: congratulations, I hope.

Tia: I hope so too.

Russ: well you'll know before everybody else practically.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: good.

Tia: I want a boy and a girl.

Russ: well you'll probably get both.

Tia: uh-huh, maybe triplets.

Russ: maybe, I'm looking forward to whatever happens.

Tia: I hope triplets, I wonder if I can manipulate inside and have three girls?

Russ: why?

Tia: well why not?

Russ: well you wanted a boy and a girl, what about a boy and two girls?

Tia: well identical triplets would be fun.

Russ: it would be hell, I mean they would be little hellions.

Tia: like me.

Russ: yeah.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you might change your mind on that one.

Tia: how about two girls and one boy?

Russ: that works.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, right. Well, I'm going to go and make Luna happy.

Russ: okay.

Tia: give Mark and Kiri extra time together and I believe Karra has run down to tell them the news.

Russ: fantastic.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm looking forward to seeing you guys all together.

Tia: and I think Kiri's asking Mark to coach her while she's delivering.

Russ: good. I'll be waiting.

Tia: yep. Okay, and what's your tradition, cigars?

Russ: cigars.

Tia: yep, okay. Well, as Kiri might say, I'm out here.

Russ: oh yes. I hope you have a wonderful time, see you soon.

Tia: ciao.

Russ: ciao.

(Kiri begins to channel but not for long)

Kiri: what's happening?

Russ: we got the double trouble now here, huh?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: nothing can stop you.

Kiri: no.

Russ: did you get a chance to follow the conversations this evening?

Kiri: I did, yes.

Kiri: so as soon as this is done with...

Russ: yes?

Kiri: I am going to give you a severe thumping.

Russ: oh you are?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well let's see if I can recall why this would be. Nope, can't think of a thing.

Kiri: "cor, Kiri looks fat".

(Russ bursts out laughing)

Kiri: hmm?

Russ: that's all right, I'll be saying it to Karra pretty soon too.

Kiri: okay, I'll tease her rotten.

Russ: good.

Kiri: I'll know what she's been through after this.

Russ: oh, Tia.......

Kiri: oh, I've got to go.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: my water's spilling.

Was: all right, bye.

Kiri: bye.

(Korton comes on to finish out the channeling session)

Korton: greetings and solicitations Russ. Well, everybody has left apart from Omal and myself.

Russ: that's it, just you two?

Korton: just us.

Russ: God, I'm crushed.

Korton: they're leaving as we talk, Luna as well.

Russ: so things are happening quick.

Korton: yes, a little bit sooner than was predicted.

Russ: well only by an hour and a half exactly.

Korton: yes. So they are rushing off with Kiri and well, what do you wish to discuss?

Russ: what is there to discuss at this point?

Korton: well there is the issue concerning a regression I believe.

Russ: oh yes. Concerning that regression, it was quite a.....

Korton: yes.

Russ: bit of fortuitous advances there you might say.

Korton: yes, concerning certain instruments of power.

Russ: yes, the sword in particular.

Korton: uh-huh. Next question please.

Russ: okay. Well, when Ashtar was in, we were discussing the effects of the earth's rotational field.

Korton: uh-huh, concerning crystals as well.

Russ: crystals as well.

Korton: and you wish to know if all the crystals rotated in one direction, what effect would that have. Or in the opposite direction......

Russ: correct.

Korton: or if they should be half of them rotating in one direction, half rotating in another?

Russ: I hadn't thought of that but yeah.

Korton: it is necessary for you to learn this of your own accord but, by the time that you reach the stage where you can use all of the crystals, then you will be advanced enough to know to be aware of the dangers and will also learn the correct rotational pattern.

Russ: now, the story I've got is that the Brotherhood of the Light has got a crystal in South America rotating.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm not sure what direction but the effects on the area surrounding that have been markedly changed.

Korton: yes?

Russ: energy wise. And the energy is in a positive sense......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: so, we can see from there that the other crystals would be equally affected.

Korton: yes. It would generate a more harmonic field that would stabilize unpredictable conditions.

Russ: so, what we're actually seeing is not just the turning of the crystals but we're seeing a turning of the karmic wheel.....

Korton: yes.

Russ: back to its original position.

Korton: correct.

Russ: and is there a chance we could see this in our lifetime?

Korton: possibly.

Russ: good.

Korton: with a little bit of patience and care and diligence.

Russ: now another story I've heard which I know you can't confirm but you might have some information on is that in a place I used to live at in Southern California....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: in Palos Verdes, there at the mouth of Palos Verdes, is a cave.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and in the cave there is a statue.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: of a lady and its all made out of crystal. There's a crystal that can revolve.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: what would be the use at all of a crystal statue of a lady? I can't see the point.

Korton: it is a cosmetic art piece.

Russ: oh.

Korton: it represents something and the crystal has a purpose.

Russ: even though it's an art piece, a crystal statue would resonate....

Korton: yes?

Russ: in such a close proximity to a revolving crystal.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: now wouldn't that augment the energies?

Korton: yes.

Russ: so besides cosmetic, it would have been actually possibly made functional.

Korton: yes, of course.

Russ: but there's another purpose to that statue besides both of those.......

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and, if I'm not mistaken, it would be a harmonic frequency.

Korton: correct.

Russ: that would be emitted...

Korton: correct.

Russ: out of the mouth the statue.

Korton: correct. You are expecting to learn.......



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