Speed Healing and Postscript to Atlantis-

Channeled (05/05/96)

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Archivist Notes: This channeling session from the members of Ashtar Command on Hades Base presents a couple of firsts. This podcast marks the first time we had named a planned website Earth Watch and it was the first time Tia had ever had to take on the engineer role of watching the monitors that fed back several images of us down here speaking to them on the base. Karra had not yet become Ambassador Karra and the session was missing Kiri who was on Centauri Base for the ski races. Between just the three speakers of Omal Karra and Tia, we managed to get a lot of useful information that will be added to the Center for Ascension website when it is posted later this year. In summarizing the major points that were covered would be Karra's advice on how to increase the rate of healing through diet and exercise, Omal's presenting the plans for a new website as well as helping with getting closure on Atlantis and Tia's explaining the argument she in with her computer. As usual, for a channeling session that took place over twenty years ago the topics covered are timely for our current times. Those topics set the tone for an engrossing hour and a quarter of higher dimensional exchanging of ideas.

   Karra is relieving Tia for this session and Tia is relieving Teene who is the usual technician for our sessions but isn't feeling well due to her pregnancy. Karra asks for healing questions and so we get into a discussion on how nutrition and exercise play such a vital role in giving the body's healing ability a boost. She makes understanding the importance of helping the body help itself so key to the speed of recovery even though medical science has confirmed that since this was taped. Also since this was taped and we find her discussing ways to simulate meat using nuts, a number of fast-food restaurants have rolled out versions of beyond meat that are finding wide acceptance twenty-years later. We only had a limited number of healing questions so she steps aside for the Omal to come on to help us with the other subjects we had come to discuss. Little did we know that what he came to discuss was the very reason for our doing the channeling sessions and webpage. The topic is polarization and how the widening of the rift between rich and poor, already wide in the 90s, was leading to a disconnect between classes. The information being provided was hoped to bring the two sides back together which is needed even more so today. Living in California provides examples in the news all the times confirming his statements back then. From there we move on to geology and a crucial time in Earth's future. After monitoring our planet for so long, the base had records showing we were supposed to be going into a cooling phase. Humanity's effect on the climate changed what should be our present more so than even the base could foresee at the time. We end the side discussing manifestation and how Mark's natural ability had led him one time to keep a fire extinguisher by the side of his bed. Omal does clarify manifestation as not just the ability to create things out of thin air as he was able to do but also those who could create something useful or beautiful out of materials at hand.

  Side two takes with a question on coercion coming up and we learn about the coercers on Sirius such as Kiri. He explains their training to become who they are as those with such a skill a held to a higher standard than those without and must be very disciplined in how they use the skill. We hear of the problems when coercers go bad and lose all emotion which prompts Omal to remind Skip of someone from his past that was such a person. Finally we get to the end of his time speaking but, before leaving, he adds his comments onto a discussion Mark and I had over our disagreement in Atlantis brought up in last month's podcast. In hindsight, Omal is able to give a third-party judgment to the outcome of our role in the decisions we made. That brings back Karra who asks for questions to fill time between speakers. The subject is Ashtar Command and the way medical research is handled which she does know the answer to as well the procedure that would take place were we to ask a question she didn't have access to the answer. All this was when her boss on the base was still Kornas and it is a nice look behind the curtain so to speak of how healing questions are handled. Tia leaves the monitors she had been watching to trade places with Karra by stepping in the pyramid at Mark, Kiri and Tia's apartment where the channeling was taking place. A new computer had been bought to replace an Amiga so that Tia and Kiri could have live online channeling sessions. Our discussions on upgrading the Amiga to give us a second computer on the web led to Tia giving us a description of her computer on the base. Her descriptions of her interactions with her computer showed it was the kind of computer out of our science fiction. Any number of movies have depicted a computer that can think for itself but this would be best be demonstrated by the independent robots of the movie "Interstellar". We finish out the session in a follow-up to the new website to be created which would be used to report on the events only on planetary news as opposed to the interplanetary kind.                 

KARRA Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS (Archivist)




1.)(0:00)- Karra discusses alternatives to meat to add high-protein to a diet twenty years before Beyond Meat and advises that exercise plus that high-protein diet can speed up the healing process.

1.)(0:00)- Omal explains how coercers on Sirius are very disciplined individuals due to the responsibility that comes with that talent. He then brings closure to a question on Atlantis and gives his opinion on the roles Mark and I had during our past lives there brought up last month.
2.)(10:02)- Karra provides an answer as to how research and development happen in Ashtar Command. Before switching speakers, a question about gene splicing brings up a painful reminder of a past life in Atlantis.
3.)(14:29)- Tia ends the night by giving us details of her seemingly self-aware computer she uses on the base and the argument she engaged in unimaginable here. It refused to work until she ended her temper tantrum.
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(Karra takes on the role of ring mistress. Tia is the acting technician since Teene was not feeling well)

Karra: but Tia is much more in control of her needs that I am.

John: yes.

Karra: she is able to manipulate everybody to the right point and she keeps a very close eye on the time and the control of everybody.

John: as far as coercion……

Karra: uh-huh.

John: who has a better handle on that, Tia or yourself?

Karra: neither of us, Kiri is the coercer.

John: okay.

Karra: but she is too boisterous to be a ring mistress that she’s too in control.

(we hear things being moved in the background)

Karra: what are you doing?

John: he’s changing a light bulb.

Russ: changing the light bulb fixture.

Karra: okay.

Russ: light bulb burnt out.

(the new bulb gets screwed in with blinding results)

Karra: ahhh, don’t want to damage the retinas on Mark’s eyes.

Russ: (talking to John) you want to put that back up there?

Karra: I’m pulling your leg Russ.

Russ: I know.

Karra: okay do we have a…..?

John: yes?

Karra: is the recording device operational?

John: yes, the recording device and we have some light.

Karra: ahh, let there be light.

Russ: in that order.

Karra: and there was and I saw that it was good. Do you know God was a woman?

John: I’ve always perceived her as a woman.

Karra: uh-huh, well God would have to be a woman to create men, got to have a sense of humor.

Skip: that’s not what I understood.

John: what do you think Skip?

Karra: I’m not getting into theology, that’s Tia’s department. I’m just having fun with you guys.

Skip: there’s no gender for God.

John: right, it’s neither male or female.

Skip: because he was kind of stumbling around when he created man but when he created woman he was a master machinist.

(that evokes a few laughs)

John: with my dad being a diesel mechanic I can respect that what you just said.

Karra: Kiri would love that comment.

Skip: ahh we’ll get to her one of these days.

Karra: yes, well she is as I said participating in a major ski event.

Skip: well that’s what I understood.

Karra: yes.

Skip: how is she doing? Or you don’t know?

Karra: we don’t know yet, we should be getting a live…..well, it’s tape delayed, six hours delayed because of the dimensional shift from sixth to where we are in fifth and also the distance from Centauri Base to here.

Skip: okay.

Karra: from Sirius to here it's a much quicker link, a two-hour delay.

Skip: yeah.

John: okay, did they arrive safely?

Karra: oh yes.

John: with a full complement?

Karra: yes,everybody showed up.

Russ: lucky Katrina was driving.

Karra: yes, I think the best way to describe Katrina driving a shuttle is like giving a Hells Angel a Rolls-Royce to drive. Would that be a correct analogy Russ that giving Katrina a shuttle to drive is like giving a Hells Angel a Rolls-Royce?

Russ: oh absolutely.

Karra: yes, she is a bit of a hellion. She is in actual fact a what you would call a fighter pilot? She’s real mean behind the controls apparently.

John: but she did get to shuttle.

Karra: uh-huh, that’s the first time that she’s had to fly in a year.

John: oh okay. So let's see, what kind of serious questions should we ask you?

Karra: healing, after all I am a healer.

John: I’ve noticed with skiing…

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and working very hard, I’m having some pain in my knees.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and I think it’s mostly muscle…..

Karra: what is happening…..

John: I don’t think I hurt myself.

Karra: no, normally what happens is that when you work muscles that haven't been worked hard for a long time, what you’re doing is stretching the muscles and making them create new pathways for the blood to flow into so that the muscles can grow. And growing is quite a painful experience, ask the youngest member here about his growing pains that he had (Shane).

John: yeah, I remember, I’m not that old.

Karra: but it is the same when you work muscles, that you create new tissue and the pathways are pumping in so that the areas are a little bit sensitive to touch to start off with. The more you work them, the stronger they become and the quicker they grow. However the quicker they grow, the more painful they are.

John: okay so the body pain is just from skiing hard and working hard, am I correct?

Karra: is it a dull pain or a sharp, stabbing pain?

John: no, no, no, I know the difference….

Karra: yeah.

John: and no, it’s nothing chronic.

Karra: okay.

John: it’s a dull, growing kind of pain.

Karra: yeah and that’s what it is, is that the muscles are growing and when you ski you’re using different muscles so by using the different muscles, you're strengthening the muscles that are useful for skiing and they enlarge and they get painful as they enlarge. But it's good in the long run as it makes the bones around the muscles stronger also. For example, if you take one of your people that throw balls in the bat thing……

John: baseball?

Karra: yes and you were to take a slice out of their arm, say here right? And a slice out of……..is this the arm that they use?

John: well it depends, they use one or the other and some challenging people use both.

Karra: any one, the throwing arm okay?

John: right.

Karra: you take a slice out of a non-throwing arm and a slice out of a throwing arm. Now if you were to compare the bone, the bone from the non-throwing arm would be thinner than the arm that is used for throwing. And this can be used for later age to prevent osteoporosis which I don’t think anybody needs to worry about but for future reference.

John: but you’re saying that an athlete will......the bone structure in a limb will actually increase?

Karra: that is correct.

John: with an athlete that uses that arm.

Karra: yes, you have to use it continuously when you get into older age. For example, if you’re concerned about thinning of the bones, by exercising, walking, running, whatever, it does increase the strength of the bones. It’s also something that can be used to combat arthritis is by exercising the bones and the muscle, you get the necessary strength to continue to be able to use your fingers, your arms, your legs, whatever part is suffering from arthritis. So by exercising the whole entire body, you exercise the whole entire bone structure and in turn you have a fitter body that is stronger.

Russ: hmm.

John: very informative.

Karra: oh thank you.

John: now I’m coming up with a list and we’ve compiled some lists as far as when we get more into some serious survival mode which we're planning for. Since you're a healer and I’m into first aid and I happen to be a chef, I'm into food and I'm into healing okay? Will you be able to help me with some menu planning?

Karra: certainly, what you need is high proteins. If you are a semi-vegetarian or a normal……

John: I want to be able to……..excuse me, pardon me…..

Karra: uh-huh.

John: I want to be able to cook a nutritional, vegetarian diet and be able to supplement it with meat for people who eat meat okay?

Karra: oh-huh, I'm getting to that. Okay, now whether you are a meat eater or a non-meat eater, everybody needs protein and it doesn’t matter if you dislike one type of meat or another type of meat. What you can use as a supplement to meat is nuts. Now there are a vast variety of nuts. You can grind them up together and by making them into a paste you can almost simulate meat, not quite but close enough. You can also use mushrooms, again with the nuts which will give you a high-protein. So in a situation where you collect nuts, you are basically harvesting meat in a different form. In fact in fact I believe some of your races call the nut a meat or the meat of the nut.

John: yes, yes, that is the correct terminology.

Karra: yes, so in essence it is just as high-protein as meat.

John: so for example, and I’ve done this before…..

Karra: uh-huh.

John: if I did a hazelnut crusted salmon…..

Karra: uh-huh.

John: you’re looking at a very nutritional, well-balanced, high-protein dish.

Karra: yes, very healthy.

John: and Russ would eat it.

Karra: oh certainly.

John: I’d like to invite everyone over, Russ is buying and we're going to have hazelnut crusted salmon.

Karra: oh thank you.

John: or we can do cashew or pecan, any kind of nut.

Karra: I will hold up a UFO and be right down.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: okay anyway, let’s get back to the healing side.

John: okay.

Karra: okay now, by using correct proteins, you can heal the body in an accelerated method with activity. Physiotherapy is an example. If you eat certain high-protein foods such as salmon or nuts, you can speed up the healing process because you’re getting a high-protein diet into a body and the body absorbs the protein and helps it to repair itself. So by using high-protein, it dovetails nicely with healing because if you eat a well-balanced meal, your chances of catching ailments is decreased and the body's repair system is  increased.

John: excellent. So my question was appropriate, whether we’re in a survival situation or not…..

Karra: uh-huh.

John: nutrition and eating good and exercise are important no matter what.

Karra: that is correct. Okay, any more questions on healing?

John: I don’t, Russ has got some, I don’t want to hog his.

Russ: I don't have anything on healing, go ahead.

John: okay.

Russ: I’ll just ask her directly if needed.

Karra: thank you. Lady, gentleman?

John: well I mean I feel kind of selfish, I got an awful lot of information or we got an awful lot of information out of you I don’t want to hog the conversation.

Karra: well as ring mistress I will be back so think of questions and I shall answer in between the upcoming schedule of two people sitting politely and quietly just outside the pyramid up here. Yes, it is from the pyramid Russ.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: but all the participants of the entertainment normal are far away except for one and myself of course. 

Russ: of course.

Karra: sorry, I couldn't hear you.

Russ: I said of course.

Karra: well I’m just thinking of the recording device. Tia is saying that, "Russ has to talk louder, it’s barely registering on the monitor that she's watching.

Russ: oh, I'm a little far away....

John: so Tia is monitoring this?

Karra: yes, she is sitting at the foot of the pyramid with Teene's monitoring device as Teene is not feeling well at the moment.

John: is she jealous because you do such a good job?

(they both chuckle)

Karra: no. Okay, I will now put on the next person.

John: okay, we’ll talk to you later.

Karra: okay bye.

(Omal comes on for what's left of the side)

Omal: greetings and felicitations everyone. Greetings Skip, greetings Judy, greetings Johnny, greetings you old bum.

Russ: greetings Omal.

John: is this Omal?

Omal: that is correct, it is I.

Russ: he also calls me the old bum.

John: how are you doing Omal?

Omal: I am functioning within specified parameters.

John: and how is things on Hades Base and overall?

Omal: on Hades Base at the moment it is very quiet.

John: how about Earth?

Omal: ahh yes, Earth. Now I had an interesting discussion yesterday with one of my staff officers as you might call them that is in charge of collecting data on certain projects.

John: yes?

Omal: and she is having time off at the moment for obvious reasons but we were discussing……

John: Tia?

Omal: correct.

John: okay, excuse me.

Omal: we were discussing computers and usage of computers in your society.

John: yes?

Omal: and I will wait for Russ before I continue with my dissertation as this pertains particularly to him and his new toy. In the meantime we will talk amongst ourselves about other things as I do not wish to have to repeat myself. Do you have a question Skip?

Skip: nope, I don’t think so.

Omal: Judy?

Judy: no dear.

Omal: Johnny?

John: yeah, as far as the survival mode we're in, the more I weigh it out in my mind, there's no way we could possibly go wrong. If society doesn’t deteriorate the way we think it’s going to…..

Omal: uh-huh.

John: we’re going to be eating good food and being really well-equipped for camping and hunting and having fun.

Omal: yes it benefits you both ways for the upcoming possibilities. It gives you numerous avenues to pursue. Now that Russ is back let me continue with my dissertation on computers, computer nets and websites.

Russ: excellent.

Omal: okay, Tia and myself discussed the possibility of creating an informational system on a computer pertaining to the upcoming instability and she has my full blessing in going ahead and helping to create this website. Now the areas that it would cover would be political unrest on a worldwide level, political instability on a national scale, it would also cover financial instability on a national scale, international scale and local scale because each area suffers from mini depressions. The instability in California in the mid-80s was not reflected on a larger scale externally so it is necessary to look at localized instability in the markets. That would be also on the website. Other information on the website would be such factors as the effects of storms on crop areas, the effects of earthquakes on areas, the effects of population on an area. Also.....

Russ: how about legal decisions?

Omal: yes, legal decisions. Also on the web would be information concerning the growth in population, social behavior, moral behavior, the actions and words of political leaders, how trustworthy are the political leaders, how they are behaving and are they keeping to their promises. Everybody knows that politicians do not do keep to their promises so it is necessary to remind people to do so. This gives a wide area to give information and to save pain-and-suffering on the keyboard operator’s wrist, I would think that updating it every other day would be sufficient. Do you feel the same way Russ?

Russ: I was thinking once a week.

Omal: if that is what you are happy with but as the crisis approaches, I think every other day would be better but in the meantime to start off with as a compromise yes, once every four days. Does that sound okay with you?

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay and that ends my brief dissertation on Tia’s website. I believe you discussed a name with Mark?

Russ: yeah it was......

Omal: Earth watch?

Russ: Earth watch, right.

Skip: question, are you going to hook this into Internet or......?

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: yes.

Skip: okay, then when I get my computer I can hook in with you?

Russ: absolutely.

Omal: okay, let us move on, questions.

Russ: you go-ahead you guys, I’m going to get some tea real quick. You guys want some tea?

Skip: no thank you.

John: yeah, I’d love a cup.

Russ: I'll be back, want me to put some sugar in it?

John: no, no, just black, you know how I like it, hot and black.

Omal: okay, let us continue.

Skip: do you want to continue on the same subject or do……?

Omal: if you wish.

Skip: go ahead John.

John: well, I had two questions, I was going to stay on the same subject but I’ve got another subject that I’m curious about and I know you have information about.

Omal: okay, let us deal with one subject at a time. Okay, let us continue on the subject that we are on at the moment and write down your questions so you won't forget them and we will proceed….

John: well I got them locked in my mind.

Omal: okay.

John: okay, as far as this computer net, will my family……?

Omal: be able to access the information?

John: right.

Omal: certainly.

John: and my friends in Sedona who are moving to Idaho also?

Omal: yes, if they have a computer terminal and have access to the Internet they would be able to do so. In fact if they were in Japan and they have a computer that they are hooked into the international information service on the computer….

Russ: and know English.

Omal: and they know English, they would be able to access any point in your whole entire planet.

John: okay, well it’s very important if you know what I mean that the other people I care about who can access this information because I've got some associates around the country……

Omal: okay.

John: that aren't directly here.

Omal: but they would be able to access the information or any information on any subject that is on the Internet. They can even talk to you on the computer. Okay, next question, Judy?

John: Judy had to use the restroom. When Russ walked down she walked out.

Omal: yes, we do not have any monitors apart from the ones that Tia is watching at the moment and she’s looking very serious.

Russ: where’s Teene?

Omal: Teene is not feeling very well this evening.

Russ: I’m sorry to hear that.

Omal: I understand it is something that comes with being pregnant.

John: would it be comparable to morning sickness in our dimension?

Omal: in any dimension.

(that gets the group chuckling)

John: okay.

Skip: okay.

John: that’s nice to know.

Omal: however on the eighth, ninth and 10th dimensions, I don’t believe they have morning sickness.

Russ: they self-heal?

Omal: yes. Okay......I know on the seventh dimensions that we do.

Russ: okay, I have some questions about learning a bit more about Ashtar Command.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: even though we’ve been working on it for so long, now I'm downloading information about Ashtar Command….

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: that we haven’t presently covered in a series before this.

Omal: uh-huh, such as?

Russ: well first off of the information I’m getting, I want to establish the credibility of the person I'm getting it from first.

Omal: okay.

Russ: and this is coming from Commander Lady Athena through Ashtar-Athena.

Omal: I believe that is a branch……

Russ: okay.

Omal: you could say a branch office?

Russ: well I knew it wasn't
Hades Base but I wanted to make sure it operating off maybe one of the city ships or something.

Omal: I believe it is from one of our city ships. There are so many that come and go that it is hard to keep track sometimes.

Russ: okay. Well this is entitled "Ashtar Command, Our Mission, Purpose, and Directive"......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and some of things they’re talking about we already knew about. Other things, for example such as they speak on helping humanity in the current cycle of planetary cooling and polar realignment. Now we've discussed the issue of polar realignment in the past….

Omal: yes.

Russ: and we established that that isn't something that we'll have to deal with in our near future much less our far future so I wanted to get a little more clearer about what this is in reference to.

Omal: okay.

John: would you like some water Omal?

Omal: that might be useful, there appears to be a frog in the throat?

John: yes, yes.

Omal: okay but in the meantime let me……a polar realignment…..have you ever heard of polarization?

Russ: polarization, I know it in sunglasses, I don’t know what it means…

Omal: in a society you can have polarization….

Russ: oh that’s right, that’s right.

Omal: for example, you have the poor and the rich and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That is a very easy and simple version of polarization. So the reference…..

John: there you go.

Omal: thank you, I thought you might need the exercise.

John: I need it.

Russ: Calvin's trying to take your spot.

(one of the house cats in the room)

Omal: greetings feline, bye feline. Okay, so a polarization is a reference that has been mistaken, or the possibility of it being mistaken, that things in an economic situation such as the possibility of the crisis upcoming could be a good example of polarization. You have the rich and the wealthy being able to hire people to protect them and therefore maintain their lands and maintain their style of living by paying people to protect them.

John: yeah.

Russ: I see, so is it actually more or less like rich and poor coming more closer together or getting farther apart?

Omal: further apart but one of our aims by giving the information that we’ve been giving is to realign that polarization so it is not as acute as it could be. If you travel around your country, you will notice that there are more poor people than there once were.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: this is because of two reasons. There are more people is one reason and the second reason is that the poor stay poor because they feel oppressed and, "why should we work when the government will give us handouts?"

Russ: also there's something else in our current situation the fact that more people are going to a two job income. Either both people in the family are getting an income or one person in the family working two jobs….

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: or possibly both people in the family working two jobs. Now does this cut out more jobs for more people doing this whereas it used to be just one job for one person so everybody pretty much had more jobs available?

Omal: it cuts people out of the workforce by people working two jobs for the simple reason that they're taking two people’s jobs which means that the people looking for work are prepared to take less money to fill that position.

Russ: oh.

John: yeah, like with our immigrants….

Omal: correct.

John: I mean some of my best friends are Latinos but two of them will do my job for less than what they should pay me for one hour......

Omal: that is correct.

John: they can pay two of them for one hour.

Omal: that is correct and those individuals will frequently work long hours or two jobs.

John: is working two jobs……for me I just moved here, I had a really good job…..

Omal: uh-huh.

John: and I moved here and it seems like working two jobs to make ends meet is essential. Is that unique to just Lake Tahoe or is that going to be a……?

Omal: I think it is not unique to Lake Tahoe, I think the reason why that occurs in particular areas.......for example, what is this area? It is a destination resort with seasonal employment in two types of trades. You have the ski industry and the beach industry and most people in your area will flip-flop from one to the other. Because it is a transient area, people coming and going all the time, it means that they don’t have to pay as much as a stable area for example the beaches of Southern California that are used by people for recreation most of the year. And those periods of time where they’re not used, it is where they do the repair work and the reconstruction work and new construction work. Which means that there is a steady flow of income by people coming into the area to relax and unwind, they are paying a passable amount of their money to the people that are relaxing or being entertained in the beach environment.

Russ: okay.

Omal: you yourself being from a beach environment Russ understand that very well, the fact that it is a higher standard of living in that area.

Russ: absolutely, we can't afford it.

Omal: so they have to pay more money for people to work in that area who can afford it. So the prices are more expensive for the people that come to visit the area.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: because it is ten months out of the year, it is a steadier income and it is not necessary in that area to work two jobs whereas an area where there is a downtime of approximately four months, two months between each season, on either side of each season, it means that a third of the year is inactive.

Russ: hmmm, I see.

Omal: that there is very little income coming into the area so ergo, the standard of living has to be lower and people have to work two jobs to survive because of the expense of bringing food into a mountain environment.

Russ: ohhh.

Omal: okay, next question.

Russ: go ahead guys, I got a bunch, I could be here all night asking.

John: can I shoot one in here?

Russ: oh yeah, fire away.

John: all right, I'm real curious about earthquake and volcanic activity.

Omal: yes they are related.

John: okay oh yes, okay but I’m interested in them and their increased activity on this planet right now and in the very near future.

Omal: there are certain cycles that your planet goes through, it is a heating and cooling process which on its own will create earthquakes. As the planet heats up, the crust expands and as it expands, there are fractures and tears that are created that give earthquakes. As it cools, again the same process happens but in reverse. The crust shrinks, which means that things are getting tight together which creates energy and creates activity. Volcanic activity works in the same principle. That as the crust expands, the cracks need to be filled and lava fills those cracks and sometimes it comes to the surface as it cools. The cracks that are filled with lava are squeezed together and they become active and it happens on a cycle. You’ll reach the end of a cycle where activity is minimal and as it goes back into another cycle from a heating process to a cooling process, the volcanic activity will increase until it reaches a point where it is at its maximum and then it will decrease as it sits and waits to be reheated. And as it reheats, again there is an increase and then there is a period of time where it sits where it is warm and then it cools down and so on. The process takes anywhere from a few hundred years to a few thousand years but is it a cycle that has being repeated many times in your planet’s history and will be repeated many times again.

John: all right now that confirms, I mean what your modern quote unquote, modern geologist would say okay? My question is, I didn't ask it correctly, I wanted to know what stage we're at. I’m thinking that we’re going to get increased volcanic and earthquake activity which also causes avalanches and tidal waves, am I correct?

Omal: yes.

John: are we in a cycle where that activity is going to be increased?

Omal: that is the way that it appears at the moment and it appears to us that you are in actual fact in a cooling stage. The temperature of your planet in the last hundred years has dropped approximately 0.5°. That may not seem like much to you but in actual fact is quite a lot in a hundred years. So to me it seems that you are in a cooling phase.

John: which with what you said will increase volcanic an earthquake activity….

Omal: yes.

John: which naturally increases avalanche and tidal waves.

Omal: and so on.

John: and yeah, okay.

Skip: then that confirms what has been put out here just recently that that the Ring of Fire is becoming active again.

Omal: correct, you have many examples, in fact you can almost pinpoint where the cycle starts to get most active. If you take an eruption I believe in 1885 of Mount Krakatoa…..

Skip: uh-huh.

Omal: which was one of the most largest or largest recorded volcanic explosions in approximately 3,000 years. If you look at that you could say that is the start of the current cycle but there have been many volcanoes erupting within the Ring of Fire. There is the activities on the island of Hawaii, there is activities off the islands of Hawaii. There is activity at Mount Pinatubo….

John: how about South America?

Omal: there has been much activity in South America, even recently.

John: yes.

Omal: so therefore you can say that yes, there is activity occurring which indicates that there is a cycle in progress, you are not in the waiting period in between. The thing to look at is the temperatures in randomly picked areas. For example, if you take the temperature at the North Pole and the South Pole over a hundred years which unfortunately is impossible, you would be able to see that the temperature is in actual fact decreased. Not very much as I said but it has decreased. Now when a cooling cycle occurs, there becomes an increase in activity in rainfall. And rainfall in a cooling environment creates more snow but there can be mini periods in between or during a cycle where things actually warm up and you have mini droughts. Again you can have areas where there are mini ice ages. I believe you could say that you're almost in one now.

John: are we approaching an ice age?

Russ: no, he's joking about the weather.

John: oh.

Omal: sorry, it is very dry sometimes.

John: what, your sense of humor?

Omal: yes.

John: or the snow?

Omal: my sense of humor.

John: snow is too, ideally.

Omal: ideally yes I believe so, you’d have to talk to our ski experts but they are unavailable at this time for comment.

John: you don’t ski yourself do you?

Omal: I haven’t skied in many thousands of years, I do not have the time anymore. Whereas you complain of working seven days straight, I complain when I work seven years straight. But let me get back to cooling of the planet. Mini ice ages can last anywhere from 20 years to a hundred years and a mini Ice Age is not necessarily huge sheets of ice descending over the planet’s surface. In actual fact it could be a period of time where snow activity is two, three, or even 400% and further South than it has been in 20, 30, or 40 years.

John: are we in that situation right now?

Omal: there is that possibility that you are but it is too early to tell at this time.

John: and that could lead to an economic things and natural disasters, the combination could really snowball on itself so to speak.

Omal: that is correct, that would be something very important to have in your website is weather activity Russ.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: but again I will leave that to Tia to discuss.

Russ: okay.

Omal: okay, any more questions? Skip?

Skip: not on the same subject okay?

Russ: pick a different subject.

Skip: you made a comment one time…..

Omal: uh-huh.

Skip: that I’m not only a healer but I'm a manifestor.

Omal: uh-huh.

Skip: can you elaborate on that please?

Omal: a manifestor is having an ability to create things…..hold up your wrist. What do you have on your wrist?

Skip: a wristwatch and a copper bracelet.

Omal: who made that copper bracelet?

Skip: I did.

Omal: that is one sign of a manifestor, to create. To manifest doesn’t necessarily mean to create out of thin air.

Skip: okay, all right. That had me kind of…….

Omal: confused.

Skip: yes.

Omal: but it is a step to creating out of thin air. Mark is a manifestor…

Skip: uh-huh.

Omal: does he show any signs of manifesting?

Skip: he’s building his airplanes.

Omal: uh-huh and writing his poetry and from time to time setting fire to the wings of his aircraft by thinking about it. Do not laugh.

Skip: I’m not laughing.

Omal: Russ is.

Skip: I didn’t realize he was doing that.

Omal: well from time to time he does burn things unintentionally. He used to I believe sleep with a fire extinguisher next to his bed. A lot of good that would’ve done if he had manifested fire in his sleep and burned down the wall.

John: Mark slept with a fire extinguisher next to his bed, is that what you’re saying?

Omal: that is correct.

John: okay, not Russ out of fear of Mark’s insane ability.

Russ: we did put smoke alarms in though.

John: but it was Mark who slept next to a fire extinguisher….

Omal: yes.

John: in case he woke up in flames?

Omal: or woke up with something burning at hand.

John: has that happened to Mark?

Omal: not that I’m aware of. It seems that it is the ability to create something out of nothing is there within Mark but it is, to use a very fitting expression, the flames of manifesting haven’t been found to create things out of thin air but there have been plans to create things on paper or by wood.

John: now would you say that Mark’s ability to astral travel and channel have helped him to control this ability naturally? Is that correct?

Omal: in a strange sort away yes, Mark is more focused on his astral travel which means that he has less energy for other pursuits. The only other pursuit that he uses on a daily basis is his coercive ability.

John: can I ask you questions about coercion?

Omal: certainly as our resident coercer is absent this evening, you may.

John: can you use coercion with animals and machines?

Omal: machines, they do not have a mind to think with but animals most certainly.

John: like an attacking dog.....

Omal: certainly.

John: you can definitely coerce them out of running the other way.

Omal: correct. If you look at the felines around the house, I am sure that Kiri would….




(Omal again answers questions as the side starts)

John: coercion from my very limited, young metaphysical standpoint, is coercion something that you can easily do……easier to do with animals or with people?

Omal: animals, it depends on their instinctual level. People, it can be harder but it can also be easier. There are people that are very weak-willed that you can manipulate and twist without even thinking about it just by using your voice and words alone. Those people are the easiest to manipulate. It is like animals that are very….

John: weak?

Omal: yes weak, that was not the word that I was looking for but it is well-suited, that is able to be manipulated like as Kiri would say a puppet on a string. A strong coercer will not use his voice or her voice, they will use their mind.

John: okay, I can use my voice…..

Omal: uh-huh.

John: and get results but I haven’t been able to use my mind totally because I don’t think I’m disciplined enough.

Omal: it is something that they are very disciplined on. On Sirius, coercers are set aside and they become very disciplined individuals. Frequently after they have finished their coercive education they will become disciplined rebels would be a good way to describe them. They become very rebellious and boisterous in nature but about their coercive ability they are very protective and disciplined. They will not readily use their coercive ability as they know what can happen if they abuse it.

John: so if I understand you correctly, you need discipline to do coercion correctly….

Omal: correct.

John: and then once you’ve mastered coercion, you need discipline to maintain your mastery.

Omal: correct and to avoid abusing it. If you abuse it, it feeds back on itself and you become somebody that has no emotions, and I do not mean the appearance of no emotions, I mean no emotions. No remorse, no pain, no guilt, nothing that would keep you on a moral balance. Sometimes this happens to individuals that have a high, natural coercive ability, they become devoid of emotions because they know that they can use their ability to get whatever they wish, from whomever they wish without having to work for it. So therefore they suffer as the people that they and use and abuse suffer and the fact that they have no satisfaction in anything that they do. They are inside empty. I believe you know somebody like that Skip or knew somebody like that.

Skip: yes I did.

Omal: okay, next question.

John: oh I’m tapped out, I mean I’ve hogged most of this, I apologize to everybody.

Omal: yes, you’re welcome Johnny. Yes I know that was deliberate but that, sorry Johnny, was an example of coercion.

Skip: you hit awful close to home there young man.

Omal: once again, thank you for the comment on young man and.....

Skip: it’s a figure of speech with me.....

Omal: yes.

Skip: I do mean the compliment, that's not.......

Omal: oh I take it as a compliment.

Skip: but you touched awful close to home.

Omal: yes, it is been many millennia since I have been called young man and I thank you for that. Okay, last question from.........

Skip: in other words the comments that you just put out, the information you just put out, the person that does not have to work to get anything that they want from another person, then their emotions die within them.

Omal: uh-huh.

Skip: will this continue to happen?

Omal: yes. I believe in the situation that you are referring to, the individual has been nudged down the road even further but that is a karmic thing that is a path that must be walked. It is two karmic paths, one of keeping an oath and the other one is repaying a debt of being too emotional in the past.

Skip: hmm, okay.

Omal: the question is, can the oath be kept and can the cycle be stopped of being too emotional one life and being too mean-spirited and deceitful in another life.

Skip: yeah, I don’t know, that'd be hard to say. I don’t have the ability to say okay? Let's put it that way.

Omal: let us hope that the oath keeper keeps his oath and the person that has no emotions learns that it is necessary to learn how to control emotions.

Skip: hmm.

Omal: Judy, you have a question?

Judy: no.

Omal: okay, Russ?

Russ: yes Omal, you get a report about a conversation that Mark and I had about Maxxus and Naxxus?

(Ed. note: these were the names of Mark and myself when we were brothers in a past life on Atlantis)

Omal: it could be on my desk under a pile of paperwork. Well let me put that correctly, it could be on my desk under a pile of discs.

Russ: okay, Mark and I had a conversation concerning our association back in Atlantis.......

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and at the time we finally had a little bit of a discussion on whether I was right in my assertion at the time that we proceed at a different pace than Mark was. And we finally came to the agreement that our race at the time was too new to deal with any sort of ascension of what we were actually planning to do so theoretically I was correct in my taking it to where it went. Theoretically, what do you think?

Omal: I think that you are both correct and both incorrect and I will elaborate. Your perception that your race was not ready is correct in the fact of what occurred later on as an example. Mark was correct in his stance by the fact that they were the seed, were there and if they had continued on that path, the possibility was there for a more rapid rise to a different level of existence. However, the disease was already spreading so it was something that if a small faction had wandered off by itself and found a new home, they might have made it but there again they might not have made it because they might of brought the seeds with them. You were both wrong in the fact that accelerated manipulation of a species is a avenue that goes through the development and rise of any species. Again Maxxus was wrong in the fact that by being narrow-minded and keeping a race pure, it did not dilute the seeds of destruction.

Russ: uh-huh, thank you.

Omal: you’re welcome.

John: can I ask one quick question here? You refer to Mark as Maxxus?

Omal: uh-huh.

John: is that how........

Russ: past life.

John: okay, well I wasn’t sure whether that was…

Omal: are you prepared to pay the price for the one last question?

John: no, I’m going to shut up real quick.

Omal: Russ, what is the price for one last question?

Russ: 25 push-ups.

John: oh man, I don’t know if I can do 25 push-ups. I don’t know if you can coerce me into doing 25.

Russ: Omal did it, he did 25 for me.

Omal: and I clapped......

Russ: and he clapped.

Omal: in between each one.

John: you don’t really want me to do 25 push-ups do you?

Omal: do you want to ask the question?

John: no.

Omal: okay.

Russ: farewell Omal.

John: thank you.

Omal: for you Trek fans, live long and prosper.

Skip: good night Sir

(Karra answers questions before changing over to the usual ring mistress)

Karra: that is.....I will write it down.

Russ: hi Karra.

Karra: hello.

John: hi Karra.

Karra: I think that’s funny actually.

John: I think it’s funny too.

Karra: okay, any questions for me?

John: no, I’m too scared ask any more questions, I don’t want to do 50 push-ups.

Karra: no, it’s only Omal’s joke. Hello.

Skip: hello.

Karra: that is Omal’s joke between Russ and everybody else that wishes to ask a question after last questions have been called.

John: I won't make that mistake again.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: by the way, Karra…..

Karra: yes?

Russ: who does the healing, engineering and research and development within Ashtar Command? Is it a certain group or is it individual healers such as Kornas?

Karra: it is......you have individual groups that are brought together by the leaders of each groups so that they are independent but yet they work together.

Russ: so information is networked out like our Internet.

Karra: correct but it is much more advanced and sophisticated than your Internet.

Russ: still, our Internet is sort of a copy of what you already had going long ago.

Karra: yes but our Internet, the power source and the transmitter and receiver are…

Russ: what? Free.

Karra: we have our own Internet.

Russ: excellent, thank you love.

Karra: okay?

John: so any questions about healing that you don’t know or have access to you can find out for us right away?

Karra: oh, I thought you were saying that I didn’t know.

John: that we don’t know.

Karra: not immediately, I would have to ask Kornas who is my boss and he would ask somebody else and he would get back to me. It depends on what he’s doing. For example, if let’s say he’s in his laboratory and he is doing some gene splicing, he might say, "ask me again later" or as your computer might say, "sorry, line's busy buddy".

John: now is it, I mean could we come up with a healing question that you couldn’t handle where you needed to ask advice or is that…..I mean are you snickering at that being a possibility that we would come up with a……?

Karra: I’m snickering at myself that it could be a possibility. There are questions that I do not know the answers to and I will say, "ask me next week" and I would go and ask Kornas and he will say, "go and ask one of the other people that I know".

John: but as a general rule you would know the question, the answer to our questions….?

Karra: if it was in my field yes.

John: yes.

Karra: it wasn't in my field then I would have to ask. I for example am not a geneticist. I deal mainly with ailments and healing with bones. You might say I am a general practitioner.

John: well that would be the kind of questions that we would be inquiring with you....

Karra: that is correct.

John: right? I mean we're not going to go start splitting genes.

Karra: no, it is not my cup of tea, it is too reminiscent of things of the past.

John: yeah, yeah I think at the time we're going to be more worried about mending a broken bone and buying a dozen eggs.

Karra: yes, instead of trying to figure out how to create the chicken that can lay bigger eggs more frequently that are tastier.

John: yeah, yeah skip that.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay, any more questions? No? Okay, I’m going to put on our technician.

(Tia leaves her monitors and takes her place in the pyramid)

Tia: hmm.....hmmm?

John: hello.

(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)

John: how you doing?

Tia: I’m doing fine.

Russ: hi love.

Tia: hello. Where did I go wrong the other night?

Russ: I don’t know.

Tia: hmm.

Russ: I don’t know what you did the previous night.

Tia: I didn’t do anything the previous night.

Russ: no, you got all the information and downloaded it.

Tia: oh. No, no, no, I was referring to talking to people that nobody was talking to me.

Russ: oh.

John: oh no, that wasn’t you, if I'm thinking about the same session. No? okay.

Tia: no.

Russ: no, I think it was just people being standoffish.

Tia: oh, new kid on the block huh?

Russ: yeah, new kid on the block.

Tia: yeah but Kiri was a new kid on the block and everybody wanted to talk to her.

Russ: well that's Kiri, Kiri has that effect on people.

Tia: hmm, even on the Internet?

Russ: obviously.

Tia: yes, I’m going to try again on Saturday night, is that okay with you?

Russ: sure, it's fine with me.

Tia: okay.

Skip: so how you doing tonight young lady?

Tia: I’m doing fine, slip me some skin.

Skip I'll slip you some.

(Skip begins to chuckle)

Tia: oh, backhand huh?

Skip: be nice.

Tia: okay....

Skip: we’re going to have to get down the hill.

Tia: oh you are?

Skip: yeah, that young man’s got to go to school in the morning.

Tia: oh you’re going to school huh?

Judy: you’re being talked to.

Tia: uh-huh, what are you studying, what do you want to be? You want to be an artist don’t you if my memory serves me right?

Shane: I don’t know.

Tia: you've got time but whatever you decide remember, the most important thing is to enjoy it, because if you enjoy it you're more productive.

Skip: been nice talking to you young lady, we're going to have to go.

Tia: okay, I’ll see you later.

Skip: you have a good one.

Tia: you too

Judy: take care of yourself.

Tia: I will.......

Russ: later guys.

Tia: take care, bye.

Judy: bye bye.

Skip: so long Russ.

John: thanks for coming. Be careful driving home now okay?

Tia: what time is it on the chronometer? It's a quarter after the one zero number.

Russ: no, quarter after nine.

John: no well that's fast, it’s like five after nine.

Tia: of course, of course, you guys started just before eight didn’t you?

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: uh-huh okay, now back to computers okay, now by..........your computer up there, could that link into the Internet?

Russ: no.

Tia: why not?

Russ: different languages.

Tia: are you absolutely sure?

Russ: I can look into it.

Tia: yeah, because I'm pretty sure that that type of computer, Commodore, is very popular in Europe.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: ergo if that type of computer is being used in Europe, and there are people on Internet from Europe, they should be compatible there. The network, there should be a common language.

Russ: yeah theoretically, I'd have to look it up.

Tia: uh-huh, doesn't Mark have a friend that's into....

Russ: Amiga's, sure, his hairdressing buddy.

Tia: hmm, get Mark to give him a call next day off.

Russ: okay.

Tia: in fact, tell Mark he needs a haircut and to schedule himself for an appointment.....

Russ: fair enough.

Tia: that way he can kill two birds with one stone.

Russ: okay.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: what are the costs associated with upgrading?

Tia: to upgrade it?

Russ: upgrade it, put a new phone line in....

Tia: hmmm, I'm sure that something can be worked out.

Russ: okay, we'll see.

Tia: so, that would be one avenue to pursue is looking into making the computer there compatible to the Internet.

Russ: well I would assume that if you got a upgrade on our computer up there and got an emulator that could translate from Amiga language to DOS….

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: you could do it.

Tia: yeah.

Russ: but see everyone is speaking in DOS…..

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and that computer only understands Amiga.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and the two just don’t mix.

Tia: so you get emulator so it can use……what does DOS stand for?

John: D.O.S.?

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it stands for data organizational system.

(Ed note: it actually stands for disk operating system)

Tia: oh okay, so use the data organizational system and emulator and you have a increase in memory capacity, you would want something like maybe…

Russ: 1.2 gig.

Tia: yeah I was actually thinking maybe two gigs.

Russ: that’s real expensive.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: real expensive.

Tia: but two gigs would give ample information storage capacity with the emulator and it would also give it the speed necessary for a more rapid and improved accessibility.

Russ: true.

Tia: and also, if you were doing the website, it would give you a ready station to access from two points. Say for example there’s an assassination that you hear about in Russia right? And you hear about it and you know that people aren't going to hear about it quickly, you type it in and go newsflash, let me think of somebody..........Lech Walesa assassinated.

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: and you get it out and you list all the possibilities that could occur from such an assassination from your and our analytic view.

Russ: true. Now is there a way you can set it up on the computer so that the computer could do all the figuring out for you at least in the same style as yours is doing?

Tia: no, for that you would need probably maybe…

Russ: a hundred gigs?

Tia: ohhhh, just for you to make use stop and pause and go is that alive and then realize that it’s not.

Russ: it’s alive.

Tia: you are talking probably about a hundred thousand gig.

John: a hundred thousand gig?

Tia: uh-huh, ours up here on the base has approximately two million gig in your terms.

Russ: yeah.

John: and what's state-of-the-art nowadays Russ? Ten?

Russ: 10.4, you can get more but it's so expensive.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: used to be a hundred megabytes of information was top of the line. Now it’s a thousand, now it's two thousand and four, she's talking two million.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: beyond our comprehension?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: no but it’s just a different language.

Tia: uh-huh well also the language written into the computer for it to be able to think for itself, to act for itself and so on is so far beyond your current technology that......it is so far beyond the current technology of my home planet that I have difficulty sometimes. I talk to the computer and it understands me when I talk English or Durondedunn, it understands exactly what I’m saying and it will answer and it will mimic if I’m going, "well, this.......no no no, let me do it this way" and the computer will go, "will you make up your mind please? I can’t stand here all day whilst you vacillate and wobble between what you're going to do and what you're not going to do".

John: and that computer gives you that feedback immediately?

Tia: uh-huh, it will behave as if it’s irritated or if you are in a mood that you need cheering up, it will tell you jokes, it will make you laugh, it will behave like somebody’s trying to cheer you up. It will behave like it’s playful, it will play practical jokes on you.

Russ: but it’s not aware.

Tia: I don’t think so.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: sometimes it seems like it is or at least the way that I talk to it and it talks back to me in the same way. In fact the other day, no it was before I went on my break, I got quite irritated and it told me to relax and calm down and I got annoyed with it saying, "will you shut up and let me just do my work?" and it said, "if you don’t relax and calm down, I’m not working". So we had an argument over whether or not the computer was going to work whilst I was throwing a temper tantrum.

John: you had an argument with the computer?

Tia: uh-huh, quite drawn out actually.

John: sorry. From our standpoint.......

Tia: uh-huh.

John: from a more practical standpoint, have you given Russ and Mark enough information to upgrade and to form this web and do the best we can with the capabilities available on this planet and this dimension?
Tia: oh there is a lot more that we can discuss but that is limited by energy endurance of Mark and also time on the recording device which is running short.

John: now, so I’m assuming that we are going to discuss this and this will be part of our discussion in the future.

Tia: oh yes, I will elaborate more at a later time but at the moment I have to do a little bit of research and translate from Durondedunn......well I have to translate from English to
Durondedunn so I can comprehend it properly and then back to English so that I can explain it to you without getting all confused.

John: I understand but you do understand that my heavy is not in computers.

Tia: I understand.

John: I’m very computer ignorant but I think that my cooking and first aid and mountaineering background will come in handy.

Tia: yes I think it will but when we worked yesterday, Mark and myself on Russ' computer, we did manage to get the system up and running and we did manage to get everything taken care of. Even though it was responding real slowly, which still baffles me a little bit.

Russ: the turbo was off.

Tia: no it wasn’t.

Russ: oh it wasn't?

Tia: no.

Russ: oh Mark said it was.

Tia: Mark thought it was.

Russ: oh, hmm.

Tia: but it was still responding slowly, I got frustrated a couple of times with first of all the lag from up here to Mark because Mark was not typing as fast as I would like and he was asking me, "are you sure that’s what you want to say?" We were going backwards and forwards and it wasn't as quick and then the computer itself was being slow. I mean if I had got into Mark’s body and done what Kiri did which I can do, the headset works better on me than it does on Kiri actually, I would be able to link in and type real rapidly.

John: through Mark’s body?

Tia: uh-huh.

John: but Mark himself doesn't type that fast.

Tia: no, he uses…..

John: he does have some typing skills along with Russ.

Tia: his method on the keyboard is hunt and peck.

John: okay.

Tia: he's like a chicken. Me, I use two fingers.

John: is there......two hands you mean?

Tia: two hands, two fingers.

John: you said two fingers….

Tia: sorry.

John: and you’re moving all your fingers and your thumb.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: and you have four fingers and a thumb?

Tia: that’s correct, my fingers.......my hands look like your hands apart my fingers are little longer and slender and elegant.

John: okay, now since our computers….

Tia: uh-huh.

John: I have limited capability and Mark and Russ have limited typing ability….

Tia: uh-huh.

John: is there something that’s affordable that we can do to expedite getting this information and sharing it with other people?

Tia: well you have a release date. Let’s say you update every Monday morning right?

John: yes.

Tia: that gives you seven days from Monday afternoon back to Monday morning to type in the information that you want to update.

John: okay, so I’m picturing Russ working two jobs, 14 hours a day….

Tia: uh-huh.

John: staying up for an additional eight…..

Russ: I could do it between shows.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: it's not a problem.

John: but I mean is it feasible?

Tia: yes.

John: is it practical?

Tia: uh-huh. Easily and there’s also……you’re forgetting somebody else that is usable for that that has direct access to here.

John: who’s that?

Tia: Mark. The other thing that you can do is as you’re working on the computer, you get quicker so therefore you can word things quicker you can type away and you get quicker and more information out. I think Omal was quite correct in saying to start off with as a compromise once a week, actually he said once every four days.

John: four days, yeah is what he said.

Tia: but I’m sure that Omal would probably raise an eyebrow, maybe cross his arms and go, "okay" if you ask him once a week". In fact I personally would prefer that because that would give us plenty of time on a Tuesday night to give you information, sources to look at, areas to search on the computer and for you compile the information and meet the deadline.

John: and wouldn't that be also more practical with Mark and Russ' busy schedules?

Tia: I don't think Mark's schedule is that busy once.....

Russ: mine's not.

Tia: once the ski season ends.....

Russ: I got the whole night at the theater.

Tia: yeah and Mark will be working from eight till five once the ski season ends and that will give him plenty of time to come home if necessary, take a nap and work until two in the morning.

John: I didn’t know that.

Tia: okay, I think the tape's about to expire anyway.

Russ: yeah, probably.......


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