(Tia gets the session off to a
Tia: ........at present at moment is Kiri, steaming
from the ears, Karra in hysterics, myself, Alana,
two technicians, both girls, one being Teene and a
young lady that is not wanting to come in but
watching from the bamboo.
Russ: tell her I said hi.......well, I’m waving at
Tia: okay, she’s waving back.
Tia: so, what can I do for you guys tonight? Shall
we deal with the business at hand first?
Russ: go ahead.
Tia: okay, let’s look at…..funny, last week I said
that the second biggest rise in the stock market had
Tia: I’m going to repeat myself, today the second
biggest ever rise in one single day occurred in the
stock market. Odd isn’t it?
Russ: it was only 60 points when I saw it, what did
it go up to?
Tia: 179.31 I think. Last week, on Tuesday……
Karen: now why does this happen every Tuesday?
Tia: no actually it’s every Wednesday they're making
a killing. Tuesdays are spending because for it to
go up you have to put money in, for it to go down
you have to take money out.
Karen: yeah but it’s going to go down tomorrow.
Doesn't go down much but it goes down enough.
Tia: yes, enough to make a nice, fat profit. But why
is it doing this so wild swings? Well….
Karen: so the rich can get richer and the poor can
Tia: doesn’t work that way. For the people that work
for those people that are making money it benefits
them too. See this is something that your big
government doesn’t understand. By taxing the rich
right? There’s less money circulating. The rich are
paying more in taxes so therefore they have less
money to invest in businesses. Whenever you increase
taxes and you tax the people that produce the money,
not the people that collect the money or the people
that benefit from the producers that make the money
but from the producers of the money i.e. the top 1%,
what happens? There is less money circulating, less
money circulating means that those people that have
the money aren’t going to invest as much which means
that they don’t invest as much as they would’ve
which in turn means there’s less money circulating
which in turn means the economy doesn’t go as good
which in turn means that there is less money moving
around which in turn means that those that do the
work aren’t getting as much money as they should
which in turn means that there is less products
being moved which in turn means that it’s less of a
investment which in turn means that those top 1%
won’t invest as much.
Karen: I’m glad I’m not typing this.
Russ: is there a quiz on this later?
Tia: so you see it’s a big circle…..you will be
typing it later…..so it’s a big circle.
Karen: do I have to keep on putting which turn
Russ: yes…..and.....and in turn....and in turn.
Tia: uh-huh, and in turn, and in turn, and in turn,
that is for the emphasis.
(Tia talks to a kitten outside the door in
Karen: so that’s three out of the four again.
(Tia scolds the kitten outside who yells back at her
in a very long reply)
(everybody breaks out in laughter)
Russ: that will come out on the tape real well.
Karen: that was good.
Russ: what does he want or she want?
(Tia explains things to the kitten who keeps up the
Tia: but anyway so, what happens? Well, when there
is a boom like this and the assumption that it is
(Tia gives a one-word reprimand to the kitten)
Tia: that it’s artificially generated, then what is
going on? Well what is going on is certain key
factors, things that are occurring at this time.
Okay, inflation wasn't as bad as people thought it
would be, the increase in the cost of living was
what they expected. The increase in wages was not
what was expected, it was less. Now what does this
Russ: the rise in the minimum wage?
Tia: yeah, well no, the average increase in earnings
for the average person. So, with this piece of
information that growth is not as rapid as they
Tia: what does this tell you?
Russ: well it means that there’s going to be a lot
of shaking up on the long-term, short-term is making
a killing but long-term is going to hurt everyone.
Russ: because the growth that is predicted is going
to be less than was predicted.
Tia: okay in the last six years right?
Tia: what has been said about the last six years by
your elected governmental leader?
Russ: that it would go up.
Tia: he also said that it’s the best time in 20
years or 40 years I think, 30 years.
Russ: well it is, statistically it is.
Tia: but in actual fact it isn’t. Statistically it
is because the fact that people are earning more now
than they did then. Things cost more now than it did
back then. Now this is something that they're not
taking into consideration is the increase in cost of
living over those 30 years. So, let us look at the
increase in the cost of living over the last 30
years. Well, what’s happened?
Karen: gas really went up.
Tia: uh-huh. Actually, you're spending more money
now to maintain the same life style that you had 30
Russ: well no, now you have two working parents
instead of one.
Karen: well you need to otherwise you can’t afford
Tia: exactly. So, is it better now than it was 30
Russ: well in one sense yes, because of the fact
that women are working more….
Russ: that means they’re reaching more equality,
they’re working and they're finding more
gratification from doing the work instead of just
Tia: uh-huh. Okay now let us look at that, this is
going to be interesting and I’m going to raise some
fur here. Okay, both parents are working….
Tia: what about the children, who’s taking care of
Russ: they’re in school.
Russ: school’s taking care of them.
Karen: day care.
Tia: day care, schools, what happens to the child’s
moral development? All the problems that are
occurring today is due to one thing, all the
increasing gangs and the violence and crime with the
Russ: they’re just looking for acceptance.
Russ: yeah, they’re finding their family life is not
as full and rich so they're finding avenues to gain
that in their peers.
Tia: correct. So, is it an improvement than 30 years
ago? Answer, no.
Karen: well no, not with family life.
Tia: but you see what I’m saying? So, having both
parents working……..I don’t like the setup up here, I
would sooner have Mark at home taking care of the
Karen: I think he’d like that.
Tia: uh-huh, I think he would too. But…..
Karen: he’s just running out of places to take them.
Tia: I think just being around them is enough, just
giving them the love.
Russ: yeah, now see there is the perfect example
right there, Hades Base.......
Russ: you guys are on the same working track that we
are down here. Drop your kids off at the crèche,
pick them up at night and they have to depend on
crèche parents for the affection during the daytime
that they don’t get from their parents.
Tia: well the….
Russ: you can't have gangs up there so it’s not
going to be that much of a problem.
Tia: well we have one crèche against the other in
Karen: it also sounds like the crèches up there are
little bit more home life……
Karen: than the day cares here.
Tia: and the crèche parents up here do love the
Russ: yeah, the day I see graffiti on the walls of
Hades Base, I mean……
Tia: the day that you see graffiti on Hades Base? Oh
it does happen, it does happen.
Tia: drunken pilots.
Russ: well it probably gets cleaned up before I get
a chance to check it out.
Tia: uh-huh, it does get cleaned up very quickly, it
gets cleaned up by lasers, laser scourers and
children do scribble on the walls but that’s
children and that’s pilots letting off steam but
normally it’s very artistic. In fact, you know the
mural as you go down to the pilot’s area?
Russ: I don't go down there at all.
Tia: there’s a big mural there.
Russ: is that the one in blue?
Tia: no, it’s all different colors. Actually you’d
have to go past the guards to get down there.
Russ: I just go right through buildings when I go
Tia: yeah but it started, according to Kiri, by a
pilot drawing a picture on the wall of another pilot
as a joke and they just kept on adding to it. So, we
have graffiti but it’s done nicely, it’s a mural
now. But occasionally they do get rambunctious and
one squadron will write another squadron on the
wall, “Two Squadron sucks, One Squadron rules”,
things like that. But, it’s done nicely and looks
nice but gets cleaned off real well and it's
normally when they’ve been drinking. But, getting
back to the issue at hand. Having one parent in a
third dimensional society always available for the
children makes it a much more stable and loving
environment. On my home planet, the men look after
the children. Of course, being a matriarchal society
that’s the way it is. It works and it works very,
very well and the reason it works is that there is
one person to lay down the law to the children and
to form a structure within which the children can
grow and learn and be. Now you take away that
structure and give them let’s say six hours a day of
total freedom to do as they wish, what’s going to
happen? Well they’re going to revert back to a more
primitive existence of a tribalistic nature,
Tia: gangs, correct, gangs. So, with the tribalistic
tendencies that occur, what happens? You get an
increase in violence, you get an increase in
mischievous behavior. Now, if there was one parental
figure at home to take care of the children, then
the children would have somewhere to go for
acceptance and have the moral structure set up. To
do this, there needs to be a decrease in the cost of
living or the cost of wages needs to become an
improvement where it is not necessary for both
parental figures to go to work. And this is achieved
by lowering taxes which means that more money can be
invested into businesses which means that the
businesses in turn can either employ more people or,
pay a better wage which in turn makes the standard
of living better so there is more leisure time for
people which in turn means that the children can be
taken care of and that brings us back in a nice,
big, ragged circle back to the markets and
investing. Don’t I get a round of applause for that
nice, big loop?
Karen: that was a big loop.
Russ: well yeah, it's a great loop. But you’re
thinking is flawed in two specific directions.
Karen: you can get up and bite him any time.
Tia: in what directions?
Russ: two. In my growth period.....
Russ: I only had one parental figure….
Russ: up until I was age 15, then I had two parental
figures, one at home all the time.
Russ: okay, prior to that or I mean during that time
I knew many people who had two parental figures, one
at home and one who was working.
Russ: okay, now during the weekdays we'd all would
be going to school and we would spend our six or
seven hours in school every day.
Tia: uh-huh, is that all?
Russ: generally. And in that case then we would come
home and we come to mom or in my case
Russ: and we'd spend time there doing homework and
stuff until dinner time and then we'd spend time
sitting around talking or watching TV.
Russ: okay, nowadays, let’s say we have both adults
working during the day okay? The child is gone for
the entire time that the parents are at work and
then all three or four, whatever it is all meet
again at the evening time for dinner and TV or
Russ: I don't see a difference between my time or my
friend’s times and the times now.
Tia: well first of all, there is no guidance.
Russ: guidance provided by school and parents in the
Russ: same as……
Tia: what about that period between everybody
getting home and getting out of school? What of that
time? What of the moral teachings, this is
important, the moral teachings, what of that?
Russ: well I’ve always thought anybody like my
mother was doing moral teachings was kind of boring.
Karen: I don’t know.
Russ: I got my moral teachings from Sunday school
Tia: uh-huh but your mother shaped who you are.
Russ: sure and she had plenty of time to do so even
though she worked for a living and I never saw her
except when I got home from school and she got home
Karen: but she taught you to say please and thank
you and gave you all your manners…
Russ: I saw plenty of mom and I came out really
fine. I think the problems with today’s youth and
the gangs that we're seeing is not a problem from
two parents working…..
Karen: no, that’s the problem with boredom…
Tia: it’s a symptom, it’s a symptom.
Karen: and peer pressure and.....
Tia: okay, that’s enough for the time being but you
see the point is that the mother or the father may
not care but the other parental figure does care.
Russ: well the thing is what we’re seeing now is a
higher divorce rate. Yeah, two members of the
family.....parents are both working but that’s when
you have two parents which isn't all that common
these days. More often than not it's just a
Tia: it goes back to my initial comment about
morals. The best way to describe it is I know that
Mark will not run out on me or our children whatever
happens. If Mark and myself had a total spat and
decided that’s it, we hated each other’s guts, I
know that Mark would put on a front for the
children. They would sense what’s going on.
Karen: children always do.
Tia: yeah but, there would still be the love from
Mark to the children and of course the same would
come from me. We would work at the problem and try
to get to the root cause or I would try to get the
root cause of the problem and try to change and
adjust enough to be compatible. Hopefully Mark would
do the same.
Karen: well yeah I can understand that but you can’t
stay together just because the kids.
Tia: no but marriage is a full-time job.
Karen: my parents did that and I saw how miserable
they were for 35 years, it was very, very
Karen: I told them they should’ve gotten divorced a
long time ago only because I knew they would be
Tia: but they had the strong, moral obligation for
Karen: yes they did.
Tia: the purpose of marriage is what?
Karen: to be together in a bond.
Karen: to love, honor and cherish.
Tia: no. The purpose of marriage is for one thing
and one thing only.
Karen: yeah, it’s a piece of paper that you put on
the wall and say, "look…..
Tia: no, it’s for protecting the children.
Karen: but some people are married and don’t have
children and don’t want children so that’s not
always basically, necessarily true.
Tia: yes but the invention of marriage in whatever
form is for children, to have children, to look
after and protect. The parental unit is the
protective shell for the children. Anyway, I've got
to put on the next speaker.
Karen: that’s the way I used to look at it.
(Karra takes us to the tape's
Russ: hi Karra.
Karen: hi Karra.
Karra: greetings. Now wasn’t that a lively and
interesting debate from Tia?
Karen: well it’s a tough one.
Karra: well Tia comes from a matriarchal society.
Technologically more advanced than yours, not as
advanced as ours though. But, let us get down to
something more serious and jovial, the webpage.
Karra: nice job.
Russ: thank you darling.
Karra: does anybody want to say anything to Katrina
at this time, she can only hear and can’t answer?
Russ: yes, we wish her a speedy recovery and
definitely, watch her six.
Karen: watch her six?
Russ: it’s a pilot’s term.
Karen: lots of love.
Karra: well hopefully....well she’ll be out of the
hospital by the end of next week. She’s going to be
grounded for a while while she has all her
psychological problems addressed, her nightmares and
Karen: I guess it’s going to take a while huh?
Karra: yes I think so. Anyway, do you have questions
Russ: uh-huh. Well, one of the things we’re seeing
is the fact that there is a lot of misinformation,
misbeliefs, false beliefs….
Russ: and this all goes back of course to deliberate
disinformation put out by the UFO group of people in
Russ: because they’re receiving information that’s
flawed and they're putting it on the web and people
are eating this stuff up.
Karra: well they’ll eat anything up of a out of
world nature. The sad thing is the more
disbelievable, the more interested people are. If I
was to say that tomorrow you will receive a message
from deep space, the message will arrive and be
picked up by one of your antennas and it will be
deciphered. People would go crazy for that. Remember
when there was talk of landings of mass UFOs?
Russ: oh yeah, it’s still out there but not as much
Karra: but everybody was talking about it in the
Russ: yeah, we shot that down pretty quick.
Russ: and were vindicated in the end.
Karra: of course.
Russ: the mass landings did not happen at the comet
Russ: and we got a look that it's not going to
happen anytime soon.
Karra: no, they’re not going to happen soon, you are
not ready as a race. Individuals do not make a race.
Russ: no, mass landings maybe from the Zeta Reticuli
and go grab a bunch of people who want to get picked
Karra: they would have a lot of trouble getting
through our defenses for that.
Russ: yeah, well I mean single ships get through no
Karra: uh-huh but a big force? No, we'd pick them up
easy. We'd just evacuate the base of nonessential
Karra: which unfortunately would be people like Tia,
Kiri, the Cubs, Alex, Leonedies, my children, Alana,
she would go…..
Russ: you’re essential.
Karra: yes, I’m a medic, I would stay. Kiri’s
shaking her head saying no I wouldn’t because I’m a
Russ: well yeah but that’s never stopped mothers
Karra: no but the children need their mother as
Karra: but, medics would stay……
Russ: well Alana could take care of the children.
Karra: true, true, I don’t know what the setup is
for an evacuation like that.
Russ: well I thought you would already have a plan
already set up and people already know what their
stations were and everything?
Karra: there are section leaders that know, I don’t
know for the simple reason I’m not a section leader
Karra: I am a medic and I'm in charge of a little
area of housing. I’m not a department head, I have
somebody above me. Kiri’s a department head so Kiri
Karra: Tia is a department head so she would know
but they wouldn’t know each other’s if they were
strangers or other people on the base.
Russ: now, what would happen if a large group of
people all got together and asked the Zeta Reticuli
Karra: there is nothing that we can do.
Russ: saying, “oh please Gray people, come and take
us away or come and greet us and meet us and let's
work our universal problems”.
Karen: well I don't know but see I remember when I
was younger, I remember actually just looking up to
the sky and saying, “gosh I wish a UFO would come
down and take me away”. I never mentioned what kind,
who, anything else but there are often times that
I've said that.
Karra: okay, voluntary abductions, there's nothing
that we can do. That is interfering. As I was going
to say to Russ’s answer, you’re both asking the same
question in different ways. Requests, we cannot
interfere with. However, if there’s a group of
people protesting the group that wants to be abducted and
the UFOs arrive and they abduct them as well, then
we can do something. But until the point of
interference from another race that is
non-voluntary, we can do things about that but
voluntary, vocal, witnessed requests, we can’t do
Russ: so a thousand people say, “please come and
help our society get out of its low technological
level and bring us up to your level” and a hundred
ships come to do so.
Karra: they can only help the thousand.
Russ: yeah, but what about the advances that they
give these thousand?
Karra: if we come to take them away, that’s
interference. We promised when Atlantis was set up
that if you guys ever needed help we would help……..
Karra: you see? That’s what I believe and this is
just my opinion……
Karra: it’s not an official policy or anything but
my opinion is that’s all that we would do.
Russ: okay, hmm. Oh, by the way…..
Russ: thank you for the clue on taking notes during
this and who says what......
Russ: it will make it easier later on......
Russ: going through it. I wish I had been doing this
four years ago, I have 400 tapes up there, I don’t
know what’s on them.
Karra: hmm. So, that’s what we would do I believe.
Karra: my opinion does not matter when it comes to
policy. The Hades Base News is an extension of…..
Russ: Hades Base.
Karra: correct, not the extension of Karra Tanaka’s
Russ: yes but from the point where you brought it up
and talked all the way to your opinion, that was
only your opinion, that wasn’t policy right?
Karra: the evacuations and so on is. It is not the
Karra News, it’s not the Kiri News or the Russ News
or the Karen News or the Mark News, it is the Hades
Base News. It is a mouthpiece for us to communicate
Russ: well it’s certainly changed a lot since we
started this thing.
Karra: yes it has hasn’t it, it’s grown.
Russ: yes, it just used to be just me and Mark
getting some information and maybe a couple guests.
Karra: I think Omal warned you didn’t he?
Russ: no, we didn’t know anything about this until I
got my computer and it was like….
Karra: well it was discussed on and off but yes,
Russ: all we talked about was this would be good for
future records and we thought the records would be
after civilization had taken a dump. We didn’t know
it was going to mean now and here while we’re still
able to answer for all this stuff.
Karra: Omal knew what was going on.
Russ: well yeah, I wish he clued us in.
Karra: he couldn’t. Why couldn’t he?
Karen: because it would be interference.
Karra: and you can add this in. You can add this
part in because this is no longer my opinion, this
is the way it is, it’s the truth. You see?
Karra: big difference between my opinion and the
truth. Omal knew what was going on, Omal knew what
was happening. He knew where it would go, he knows
where it’s going and side one is about to turn over.
(Tia signals to the next speaker)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: okay, I’m going to put on our next speaker.
(Alana tries an impersonation
to start things off)
(Russ starts laughing)
Russ: hi love, how you doing?
Alana: I’m doing fine.
Karen: I have a terrible headache, I can't even
hear anything anymore.
Alana: oh. So, who am I?
Russ: what? You’re Alana.
Russ: what do you want? You’re pretending to be
Karra there for a second.
Karen: you did, you almost sounded just like her.
Alana: almost, well I am her daughter. I am
Karra’s eldest daughter.
Russ: and unessential base personnel.
Alana: yes, nonessential.
Karen: oh, so typical.
Alana: unessential or nonessential?
Alana: thank you.
Karen: you’re very essential but…..
Russ: well no, the dolphins aren't part of the war
Alana: if there was a war.
Russ: if there was a war, correct.
Alana: but I am definitely essential.
Karen: I don't know, in our government dolphins
are very important.
Alana: yes. Okay....
Russ: so anyway, how are you doing Alana?
Alana: I’m doing fine.
Russ: that’s good. We had some fun in Cancun with
Russ: that was most enjoyable.
Alana: so when are you going to come down and hang
out with the dolphins?
Russ: well I did that the one time. You mean for
any length of time?
Russ: I’ll work on that.
Alana: we'll go riding dolphins in Lake Dolphin,
we’ll get you a saddle.
Karen: that sounds like fun.
Alana: ahh, I ride bareback.
Karen: no, I just meant riding the dolphins sounds
Alana: it is fun.
Russ: I'll try to get down tomorrow. Going to the
Alana: I'm in two minds, I want to go and party
but at the moment…..
Russ: you haven’t been to a party in a long time
Alana: yeah, I know. At the moment I feel kind of
agitated. I might go.
Russ: well take your girlfriend.
Alana: yeah, I'll take my girlfriend if I go.
Alana: but I feel antsy you know?
Russ: from what, something up?
Alana: no, just feel antsy in general.
Russ: hmm, well maybe it’s the pregnancy.
Alana: yeah I think…..well, I’m pretty sure it is.
Russ: yeah, it just tends to do that to every
woman doesn’t it Karen?
Karen: makes them antsy?
Karen: I don’t know, no not really, sometimes.
Alana: yeah, it’s just a sometime at the moment.
Karen: yeah sometimes I mean you can just break
down and cry for no reason too.
Alana: uh-huh, yeah I’ve done that, frequently.
But at the moment I’m just….hmmm.
Russ: right, kind of restless?
Russ: hmm. So anyway darling, what can be your
contribution for the webpage this week? I'd like
to put a contribution from you, we don’t have many
Alana: yes.....let me see, gossip column.
Karen: oh there you go, ask Alana.
Alana: yeah, ask Alana, let me see.
Karen: like an Ann Landers.
Alana: well......no……..Kee is having an aff…..well
not an affair, but having a courting period with
Hal. They’re courting, they’re the talk of the
base at the moment.
Karen: who’s courting? Hal?
Russ: who's Hal?
Alana: just call him Hal for short…..
Russ: oh, okay.
Alana: he’s a technician.
Russ: oh, all right.
Russ: okay, courtship of Hal.
Alana: uh-huh. He and his young lady, they’ve been
seen in romantic positions in gardens and lakes
and swimming pools.
Russ: and here I thought you were the talk of the
Alana: well I have been from time to time. Okay,
let me see. Festivities, well it looks like the
flower harvest is going to be absolutely dismal
Russ: it's just the pink ones.
Alana: yeah, has Kiri told you?
Alana: oh, okay. So it looks like it’s going to be
a bad year on the pink flowers. They should be
budding and getting ready to bloom but they
haven’t even started budding yet.
Alana: in fact they had another snowstorm up there
so that’s looking bad.
Russ: sounds real bad.
Karen: don’t you guys have atriums?
Alana: it’s not so much growing them indoors, it’s
the environment that they grow in.
Russ: yeah, they don’t do well indoors, they’ve
Alana: they're limited to just a few patches in
the high mountains, they grow at about 11, 12,000
Alana: and it’s the lack of oxygen, the soil, the
amount of sunlight....I suppose yes, I do know a
lot about that don’t I? Having a horticultural
leaning, biology and horticulture.
Alana: I know….
Alana: my contribution is on the flowers of
Russ: there you go, perfect.
Alana: okay, now getting back to the pink flowers…
Alana: the reason that they are not going to be
such a good harvest this year is because the
winter is still continuing, they haven’t been able
to get the sunlight necessary that filters through
the snow as it melts to create an almost
greenhouse effect over them which normally
contributes to having them break open at the right
time and then freezing at the right time which
gives the essential effect that occurs in the
petals and in turn is used in the juices that are
in the petals.
Alana: so therefore by this occurring, the harvest
is going to be pretty spartan. Now, with the snow
being so deep on top of them, is they're not
getting the amount of light necessary for the
reactions to occur. And they’re still in a late
winter stage, they're starting to green up
underneath the snow. They're getting enough light
just to start the photosynthesis but not enough
for the nutrients to be produced for the plants.
So, by this happening, they are in essence still
in the winter stage. Now when this has happened in
the past, it warms up and the plants seem to put
on a sudden spurt of growth and instead of
producing flowers it goes into the growth of the
plant as it spreads and becomes a much bigger
plant. It still flowers but only about a half to a
quarter of what it normally would. However….
Karen: what kind of flowers are they?
Alana: they’re kind of a bowl-shaped flower that
have a psychedelic
Russ: the pink ones have a sexually psychedelic
Karen: a sexually psychedelic effect?
Russ: they heighten the senses. But how come this
isn’t going to affect the blue or the red ones?
Alana: because they’re lower down.
Russ: oh I see.
Alana: uh-huh. Now, when normally if there is a
mild winter or a normal winter
afterwards.......after a bad winter like we're
having at the moment and the plants have grown
rapidly, normally the following year is a bumper
Alana: I remember oh, we found a patch, we were
Alana: we found a patch and we munched. There was
oh, about three girls, four guys, we got it on and
we got it on. As you might say, we got it on we
banged a gong and then some.
Russ: hmm, so Kiri’s going to make a killing on
these this year.....
Russ: and as I remember last year, you were quite
the flower eater yourself.
Alana: yes, this year I can’t.
Russ: no, is that because of your pregnancy?
Russ: oh, okay. Alright and what I’ll do is I'll
put in your comments on the pink flowers….
Russ: and then I'll direct a link to Kiri’s
comments on the basic what flowers do……
Russ: on the library.
Alana: uh-huh, okay.
Russ: that will work out real well.
Alana: uh-huh but the blue flowers are a much more
robust and prevalent flower.
Alana: they're the same genus but because of them
being at a lower level, they get more sunlight
obviously and their growing season is much
earlier. In fact it’s almost a continual growing
season for them. In between the blue flowers and
the pink flowers is the red flowers and they do
have a dormant time. But also, if they’re hit by a
frost, the heightened sense is increased and
multiplied in them and the same with the blue ones
is that a frost amplifies the feeling. With the
blues you get a nice, relaxed, mellow just dozing
off, being nice and mellow. With the red ones, it
becomes much more heightened hyperactivity.
Karen: must be what colored rooms do to us.
Alana: colored rooms?
Karen: yeah, everyone says that certain colors in
the rooms tend to…..
Alana: oh yes, yes.
Karen: play with the emotions.
Alana: uh-huh. Anyway, I’m going to depart, I need
to go and relieve myself.
Russ: what a shame.
Alana: don’t want to leave a puddle in the middle
of the pyramid do I?
Russ: I’ll be down to see you later babe.
Karen: bye Alana.
Russ: bye Alana.
(Tia is back to help make the exchange)
Tia: okay, I’ve got to put on a guest speaker.
Karen: I'm going to go get some tea, I'll be right
(Wing Commander Taal stops by
to chat about the new pilot to the base)
Russ: hey Taal, greetings and felicitations.
Taal: greetings indeed.
Russ: how do you do?
Taal: I do well, how do you do?
Russ: very well actually.
Taal: thank you.
Russ: we did a bunch of work or I did a bunch of
work on the webpage today, tribute to your lovely
lady and the arrival of your new trainer.
Taal: yes, new trainer.
Russ: who I’ve heard all kinds of things about
since he’s arrived. I know more about him than I
think any other pilot including yourself on the
entire base right now.
Taal: he is legend……
Russ: sounds like it.
Taal: living legend.
Russ: and that’s throughout Ashtar Command, that’s
not just Hades Base.
Taal: correct. He is second-highest scoring ace
Russ: who’s the first?
Taal: gentlemen called Kerah.
Russ: who is no longer with us I take it?
died saving convoy.
Taal: took on odds of sixty to one.
Taal: shot down ten before arrival of backup, two
other backup. Young rookie pilot engage, fight
very hard next to him ferociously. Kerah
shot down six more, guns run dry, know importance
of convoy getting through. Rammed ship, destroyed
lead ship of attacking force, died in process.
Young rookie pilot much shot, fought like demons.
A hundred and ninety year later young rookie pilot
is second-highest scoring.
Russ: oh wow, so the Baron was that rookie pilot
coming in huh?
Russ: and they beat the attack off?
Taal: he was wounded, only slightly but scored his
first five victory.
Russ: wow, became an ace in his first time at bat.
Russ: so this is quite an honor for you to have
this gentleman here.
Russ: how come the rookies up there are not
feeling like it’s such an honor anymore?
Taal: would you?
Russ: I don’t know, I'd take every lesson I could
get from this guy and just thank him for it
Taal: if the world’s best skier showed up at your
hill and said, “ski with me” and picked fault at
everything you did, every turn, every stop?
Russ: well I’d probably get a little frustrated
after a while.
Karen: that’s called egotistical, a real snob.
Russ: no not on his part, on my part for not
taking it to heart.
Taal: the Baron is perfectionist, he is…..
Karen: that doesn’t mean you put people down
Taal: he does not put people down, he tells them
Karen: they’re doing wrong.
Taal: correct. He wants them to be old pilots like
him, not names and pictures upside down in bar.
Not names to be forgotten.
Karen: I mean that’s something that each pilot has
to experience don’t you think?
Taal: I think he is giving opportunity for them to
Taal: them to live. Thing to remember, no such
thing as bad pilot, bad pilot die.
Russ: right. And, the thing is, they’re going to
thank him for it after they’ve gone through a few
engagements and used what they've learned from
him. I think it’s just now they’re feeling a
little bit stressed on the matter.
Taal: the fact that no one beat him or get line on
him, that he shoot everyone down that he has
Russ: and including yourself I’m sure.
Taal: I have not engaged yet.
Russ: okay. And you know Mark is going to
Russ: yes, Mark's going to challenge him to World
War I planes.
(Ed. note: in the base's holosuites)
Taal: ahhh, this would be entertaining.
Russ: yeah because I figure the Baron is going to
pick a nice, red triplane, Mark in probably a
Newport or a Spad.
Taal: I put money on Baron.
Russ: I would too, in a hot second just from past
Taal: I have been bet.......I will offer odds.
Russ: you’re not going to take him on yourself?
Taal: am I stupid?
Russ: I’ll put odds on you, I’ve got wine to lose.
Taal: I offer odds of a hundred to one that Mark
will not get even one shot on him. Will not get
one bullet in his craft.
Russ: well, I wouldn’t touch those odds. I have a
feeling you’d win that pretty easily.
Taal: you put one bottle down, I give you 80 back
if he win, if he puts one bullet.
Russ: well one bullet, well Mark might get lucky.
Karen: one bottle, only one bottle Russ. Come on,
you've got that bet.
Russ: I think I’ll do it, it’s just only one
bottle. So what else has been going on? Have you
discovered anything from the investigation of the
Taal: we know rookie froze.
Russ: oh okay, that’s why no shots took hit.
Russ: and did Katrina come under friendly fire?
Taal: Katrina was hit by plasmic weapons.
Russ: oh, you guys don’t use plasmic.
Russ: yeah, lasers.
Taal: Zeta’s do not use plasmic.
Russ: yeah, so who was it?
Taal: we still investigate.
Russ: oh, still don’t know.
Taal: the films show blurred craft….
Taal: which means either using some kind of
blurring for nonrecognition…..
Taal: or moving fast.
Taal: but I think not moving fast, I think blurred
Russ: hmm, oops, sorry about that.
Taal: which make me think that they are new
Russ: oh, oh.
Taal: we can beat them.
Russ: oh yeah, I mean they did get some
kills……..no they didn’t, they got some shots,
hits, no kills.
Taal: no kills in engagement. Wounded, hits yes,
Taal: you have bearing of military person?
Russ: ahh yeah, she does.
Taal: walks tall like one of us?
Karen: who me?
Taal: yes you.
Karen: do I know of someone or…..?
Russ: no, you, you have military bearing.
Taal: let me speak Russ.
Russ: oh, sorry.
Taal: you walk tall and proud as we do.
Taal: were you a service person?
Taal: ahh, thank you. What branch?
Karen: the Air Force.
Taal: ahh, you fly?
Taal: you ground tech?
Karen: yeah, I was operations officer.
Taal: ahh, ground control.
Taal: ahh, we thank people like you. I am leader
of squadron and people of your kind very important
to us. When we damaged you guide us in.
Taal: we thank your kind and you.
Russ: oh....Karen, this is Taal, Taal, this is
Karen: hi Taal.
Russ: you guys haven’t met, I just realized that.
Taal: okay, thank you, I depart now. I go and see
Russ: thank you Omal, I mean Taal.
Karen: be safe up there Taal.
Russ: take care now.
Taal: I will.
(Tia arrives back just as our guest has to leave)
Karen: what time is it?
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn)
Karen: hi, that one too? Tia I brought you some
Tia: oh thank you.
Karen: but I have to pour it into the cup or you
can pour it into the cup.
Tia: I’ll pour it into the cup.....
Tia: you have to depart I assume.
Kiri: yes I do.
Russ: is your mom coming?
Karen: there’s milk in there….
Karen: hey, I’m ahead of the game here.
Tia: have fun at work.
Karen: bye Tia, bye kitty.
Russ: that was an interesting report from Taal,
new technology on the horizon there.
Tia: hmm, I’m not worried.
Russ: sounds sort of like stealth technology
Tia: possibly yes.
Russ: because if they got ambushed like that it
could mean that they were undetected until they
Tia: I don’t think they got quite that jumped. I
mean it’s an ongoing investigation.
Tia: oh well, I’m going to put on the last
Tia: but first I’m going to have a mouthful of
tea. Yes, terrible host there, you’ve got to
Russ: I thought they’d met already actually until
I realized that they really hadn't met yet. Watch
out!! Ohhh, that’s going to be a tough one to
Tia: yes, I think that was very nice of Taal to
give Karen full respect.
Tia: uh-huh. Gave her a lot of respect there
actually didn’t he?
Russ: yeah, he recognized the fact that she had
been in the service.
Tia: well, they seemed to recognize each other if
you know what I mean.
Tia: that one service person can tell another
service person. I think Mark knew that Karen had
been in some branch of the service and vice a
versa. If you notice they walk very similar, very
tall and upright.
Tia: neither of them will stoop or......
(Tia has a quick exchange with a cat)
Tia: so I think military persons recognize each
other you know? I think it’s in their mannerisms
and their walk and it doesn’t matter what
nationality, they know, you know?
Russ: uh-huh. Hmmm…..
Tia: oh well, I’m going to put on the last person
as we got about half a tape left.
Russ: well you'll be here for afterwards anyway so
no matter what, we'll still have time for
Tia: okay, you got some questions for me later on
Russ: I'm working on some.
(Kiri has the honor of wrapping
Russ: hey Kiri.
Kiri: yo dude.
Russ: what’s up sweetheart?
Kiri: I’m fine.
Russ: all the girls this evening huh?
Kiri: uh-huh and we've all behaved impeccably
except for one guy.
Russ: who, Mark?
Russ: well Taal did get all the women around
Russ: it might just take his mind off things.
Kiri: yeah. Well when he was sitting down in the
pyramid we had one of the technicians come over
and he actually sat down with his head on her lap
and she played with his hair as he talked. Played
with his ear and everything, he was enjoying that
Russ: I’ll bet.
Kiri: that’s why he sounded a little more
distracted than normal. He was lying there on his
back with his head in her lap and looking up
talking and she’s playing with his hair and his
ears and rubbing his nose and......
Russ: that’s good.
Russ: he needs that distraction.
Kiri: yeah, Teene thinks it’s funny. In fact,
Teene’s poking fun at the technician now, now that
Russ: tell her not to, I think that's a very good
and neat gesture.
Kiri: she’s poking fun in fun.
Russ: oh, of course.
Kiri: uh-huh, it’s not malicious.
Russ: I know. Teene’s had her experiences too.
Russ: so anyway Kiri……
Russ: my question is, I’ve noticed that when I’m
transcribing Omal, he seems to use one term in
particular each week.
Kiri: which is?
Russ: well he changes it each week but each week
is like a common theme word he uses.
Russ: like what was the one he got last week? It
was one word I kept having, it was……..oh,
individuals or individuality.
Russ: that was his theme word. But literally each
time he talks there is a new theme word he works
Russ: and I only noticed because I transcribe it
and I have to type it out all the time but I
hadn’t noticed that until I started going,
Kiri: now why does he use a theme word?
Russ: I don’t know, that was one of the questions
I was going to ask him tonight but he’s not here
so I thought I'd ask you.
Kiri: no he’s in a Council meeting.
Russ: oh, he’s at Council? So I thought I would
ask you instead.
Kiri: well it is my opinion that if you take all
the theme words right?
Kiri: was that a little squeak? Yes it was. If you
take all the theme words, put them together,
you'll come up with something important.
Kiri: you might have to put in breaking words like
and, are, therefore….
Russ: right, you mean like a big jigsaw puzzle.
Kiri: that’s right. I think….
Russ: we can do it by date.
Kiri: no, you’d have to arrange them in a way.
He’s probably coded it in a way and has been
waiting for somebody to point out that he picks a
Russ: hmm, well you wouldn't notice it just from
talking to him, you actually have to sit there and
type out his words.
Kiri: I think it goes back to…..
Russ: channeling over and over the same word.
Kiri: I think it goes back to big sis’s comments
you know dude.
Russ: oh, like what?
Kiri: about Omal knew what was going on long ago.
Russ: yeah, that’s true.
Kiri: where it was going.
Russ: well when I get up to his dimensional level
I probably will too.
Kiri: it’s a cute, little furball.
Russ: so anyway…..
Russ: so we need to, because I want to keep on the
same theme because I’m going to put this on the
Russ: I want to keep working on Omal’s stuff.
Kiri: all right.
Russ: I don’t want to get off track here.
Kiri: whoa, clever kitty.
(Kiri starts clapping)
Russ: so until I start transcribing and spotting
all his theme words, I have to find out where it’s
Kiri: exactly. I don’t think he does it every
Russ: well I’ve been noticing more and more.
Kiri: uh-huh but that’s the way Omal works is that
with his theme words, there is possibly coding in
there. Right, it might not be for you. You see, I
don’t have Omal to say, “drop it or not”. After
all, it’s not the Kiri’s Base News, as much as one
would like it to be.
Russ: yes, of course darling.
Kiri: besides, if it was the Kiri’s Base News,
there’d be a picture of me with let’s see…..
Russ: you'd have a whole lingerie line in there…
Russ: and a little bathing suit line and…..
Kiri: me modeling.
Russ: click here to see Kiri’s latest fashions for
Kiri: click here to undress me with your
Russ: okay, well what would be kind of neat is put
a little section in there going, “Omal’s keywords
for this week".
Kiri: uh-huh. I think of a movie that Mark’s fond
of and it’s….
(speaks a sentence in French)
Kiri: secret messages...."wounds my
heart's.....".....did you have to bite? "Jean has a grande
moustache, répétez, Jean have a grande
Mark what that means......
Russ: Battle of Britain or I mean Normandy.
Kiri: oh, spoiling my fun.
Russ: in the invasion code that came over the……
Kiri: I know what I’m going to do.
Kiri: at the end of the session I’m going to
download and watch Mark’s reactions. This is going
to be fun.
Russ: what's the keyword I use this time?
Kiri: "Jean has a grande moustache, répétez, Jean
has a grande moustache."
Russ: okay, "Jean has a grande
moustache, répétez, Jean has a grande
Kiri: that’s good.
Russ: two years French.
Kiri: two years French?
Russ: uh-huh. Okay, come on baby, I need to put
something else to put on the webpage here.
Russ: I can’t just leave it with this itty bit
which I can't put on the webpage anyway.
Kiri: no, no, no. Okay……
Russ: remember, we’re not just doing this for me
and you and Mark anymore, we have an audience.
Kiri: no true, we have an audience. Let me see, as
Tia unzips the back of my toga......
(Russ whistles again)
Russ: back on track darling.
Kiri: okay coercion, the importance of having a
moralistic nature of coercion, being able to
understand the difference between right and wrong.
Russ: didn’t we just do this one? I just put this
on the web.
Kiri: yes but I’m going to explain in more detail.
Russ: oh okay.
Kiri: okay? That the importance of a positive
mental attitude and the morals that are necessary
for the correct application. That being of a
positive frame of mind and not deviating to
negativism and self-serving. For example, coercing
a young lady to drop her underwear so that you can
have your wicked way with her, that is wrong.
Coercing somebody to give you money, that is
wrong. Coercing for personal gain at any time is
Russ: coercing your children to quit crying.
Kiri: that is wrong. I’ve done that and it is
Russ: I remember it, that’s why brought it up
Kiri: uh-huh, it is wrong. Why is it wrong?
Russ: because it’s not for their own good, it’s
for your own good.
Kiri: and, I’m being negligent as a mother, I am
not finding out what is wrong. Why are they
Russ: right, you’re just shutting them up.
Russ: and it happens to be this and other
Kiri: exactly and I have learned that I should not
because one of the times that I did that, Alex was
quite sick actually, he spent the whole entire
night throwing up. I did it to the Cubs one night
and they were quite sick as well. So I make a
conscious effort to find out what is wrong.
Russ: good, now I can put this on the webpage…
Russ: this is perfect.
Kiri: and that is something that you really don’t
find out is wrong until later. Sometimes children
just cry because they feel lonely and that’s
something that they have to learn to deal with is
being left alone.
Russ: yeah but they cannot answer you to say that
is why they're crying. Maybe they don’t know why
Kiri: correct.....correct, until you talk to them
and find out what is wrong, you don’t know what is
wrong with them.
Russ: and sometimes they’re too young to talk to,
even on intimate mode.
Kiri: true, true. So that you do take that time
and it goes back to what Tia was saying about
morals right? That at that point is the most
formative time for the development of psychic
morals. That when you are developing psychic
morals, you are learning root commands that take a
long time to be fully active. What you learn as a
child, at a tender age, affects you throughout
your whole entire life. That being left alone as a
child or coerced to be quiet is not getting to the
cause, that is setting down a negative pathway for
the parental unit. For the child, it makes them
feel unwanted unless you remedy it as quickly as
possible which is what I’m doing. I know where I
went wrong and I would never do it again
intentionally. So, what have I learned by my bad
Russ: well you learn…
Kiri: Mark needs to get his knees fixed.
Russ: we’re doing that next week.
Kiri: okay, let us continue. No, don’t worry about
it. Just tell him when he asks about it, tell him
the truth, that Tia and myself have had enough of
Russ: well you guys should tell him.
Kiri: we will tell him at the same time that you
Russ: all right.
Kiri: okay? So you have to wait until tomorrow.
THE TAPE ENDS