(Tia has already started the
session as ring mistress)
Russ: I couldnít remember that for nothing.
John: that was a long time ago.
Tia: his brow frowned and so furrowed that you could
plant seeds in there and they would sprout.
(the phone rings as we call Carrie)
Tia: hello sister mind.
Carrie: hi, what are you guys doing?
Russ: what up Carrie?
Tia: oh theyíre debating Markís writing.
Carrie: hang on, let me get up and go into the other
Tia: oh, so you donít wake Mike up?
Carrie: oh no, heís awake, we were just laying down.
Carrie: we were getting ready to go to bed because
we've had a long day. Okay, Iím in the other room.
Tia: okay, soÖ..
Carrie: God you guys, Iím itching like crazy.
Carrie: I donít know, my whole body is broken out in
some kind of rash, Iíve got a big, huge goose egg on
my stomach that is itching. My neck and my ears have
been itching really bad the last couple days, now my
whole body has broken out in it.
Tia: hmm, you been messing around in the woods
Carrie: no, itís too cold, are you kidding? I donít
know what it is, I am just itching like crazy.
Carrie: I mean I am just broken out and I mean I do,
I have a big, huge welt on my stomach and itís hard
as a rock and itís the size of a baseball.
Carrie: yes and it is itching like crazy.
Tia: well donít scratch it.
Carrie: I canít help it, I am scratching everywhere.
I feel like my poor damn cat when she had fleas.
Carrie: maybe I have fleas, I need a flea bath.
(now Tia laughs)
Tia: I doubt it, I doubt it.
Carrie: I donít know what it is but itís making me
Tia: probably a reaction to something.
Carrie: well see I thoughtÖ..okay, I was going to
say maybe grandma switched laundry detergents?
Tia: thatís a possibility.
Carrie: but I washed some clothes the other day in
some laundry detergent but itís a laundry
detergent that I got from grandma.....
Carrie: about a month ago and itís been sitting in a
bag and so I used it all up the other day.
Tia: probably too much washing detergent.
Carrie: I donít know what it was but man I am
justÖÖbut see Iíve been itchingÖÖ..my face and my
neck have been itching the last couple daysÖ..
Carrie: before I did laundry.
Tia: is there any chemicals or stuff that youíre
using at work thatís new?
Carrie: not that I know of thatís new.
Russ: how about your school?
Carrie: let me think, you see itís been ever since I
got my hair cut.
Tia: hmmm, did they use any spray on you?
Tia: they washed your hair right?
Tia: could be that, it could be that, the shampoo
that they used.
Carrie: because itís not just my head thatís
Tia: yeah but you started scratching there first
Tia: and hmm.
Tia: thatís very strange.
Carrie: and now I've got a big welt on my stomach?
Tia: yeah that is very strange.
Carrie: and I mean Iíve been scratching my stomach.
The welt just appearedÖ..
Carrie: and then I started scratching it.
Tia: well you shouldnít scratch it.
Carrie: I can help it, it itches.
Tia: stop scratching it.
Carrie: it itches, I mean just itches, itches like
it's driving me insane.
Tia: well take a shower before you go to bed tonight
and see if that helps.
Carrie: thatís not such a bad idea.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, down to wedding plans huh?
Carrie: oh God, I've got a headache over wedding
Tia: uh-huh, thatís why I thought we better talk
because the other night when I was prying around in
your mind it seems like youíve got a stress factor
thatís way up there.
Carrie: yeah I do.
Tia: youíve got to remember that this is the biggest
day of your life.
Carrie: I know.
Carrie: I keep trying to remind myself that.
Tia: yes so you have to tell them that
itísÖ..theyíre invited guests and you expect them to
play their roles. Everybody agree with me on that?
John: oh yeah.
Tia: yeah, they all agree.
Carrie: they all? Whoís they all?
Tia: thereís Russ, thereís a friend of Russí and
Markís called Nicole, sheís from Australia.
Carrie: oh hi Nicole.
Carrie: oh hi Russ.
Russ: hi darling.
Tia: and Johnny.
Russ: oh Carrie?
Russ: I might not be able to make it sweetheart.
Carrie: you better not even say that.
Russ: well I talked to my mom, my mom is like
stressing over if I canít be there instead. Iím
going to try to make them both okay? Iím going to
try to get two weeks off from work, one week for you
and one week for her, alrighty?
Carrie: Iíll understand if you canít.
Russ: Iím working on it darling.
Carrie: itíll crush my heart though.
Russ: Iím working on it.
Tia: Mark will be there though, heís looking forward
Carrie: I know, Iím really excited.
Tia: uh-huh and weíll be there in spirit but not in
Carrie: thatís okay, I know you guys will be here.
Tia: uh-huh, yeah weíll have it all recorded and
Carrie: at least I know youíll guys will be here and
you wonít fight with me.
Tia: of course not no, yeah this is a very special
day youíre having a big bonding like this.
Carrie: Iím really excited.
Carrie: if I hurt their feelings or it made them
upset I changed it, Iím not going to do that
Tia: no, no. Youíre going to tell them that this is
the way that it is, this is why you doing it this
way and if they donít like it tough.
Carrie: thatís what I told them, I said if itís
going to offend anybody, please donít comeÖ..
Carrie: just please donít come, I donít want you
Tia: yeah well you could do a Durondedunn marriage,
totally in the buff. That would get everybody going.
Carrie: Iíve been telling people thatís how the
wedding was going to be and I had one girl at school
the other day she freaked out, she said, "what is it
with you and naked people?" I said, "well, I think
the human body is beautiful. Whether youíre my size
or youíre twice my size or ten times my size, it
Tia: I take it sheís twice your size.
Carrie: yeah, sheís twice my size.
Carrie: and I told her, I said, "the human body is
beautiful, we came into this world without
Carrie: "clothing is just something that man created
because they were insecure."
Tia: uh-huh, what about Durondedunn bodies? You like
Carrie: I donít know, Iíve never seen one.
(they both chuckle)
Tia: true, true.
Carrie: well, I've neverÖ..you know.
(Russ chuckles now)
Carrie: but she just freaked out, she couldnít
believe it and I told her, "Iím going to have a
naked wedding just to see how many people actually
show up". She goes, "you're nuts."
Russ: Iíll be there.
Carrie: out in the Midwest it doesnít go over very
Tia: no it doesnít. Russ says that heíll be there,
if itís naked heíll be there.
Carrie: oh if itís naked, Russ you can come naked.
You can come any way you want, you can even wear
that funky, silver suit that you have.
Tia: oohhhhh, I was listening to that conversation
Carrie: I told Mark that. I said, "please, if Russ
comes, donít let him wear that suit".
Carrie: but then thereís a part of me that if I told
you that Russ, you would do it just on purpose.
Russ: uhh, yeah.
Carrie: so I knew I had to tell you just because
thatís the other part of me that says, "oh just wear
it because I love you like that anyways."
Russ: well Iíll get it altered to my size then.
Carrie: what did he say?
Tia: he says heís going to get it altered to his
size. Iím going to put on the Kiri monster as she
wants to put in her whatever monies worth it is.
(Kiri comes on to talk to one of
her best friends on this planet)
Carrie: hey, whatís going on?
Kiri: oh usualÖ..telephoneís beepingÖÖusual stuff
you know? You cool?
Carrie: oh yeah always.
Kiri: oh coolness.
Carrie: so whatís going on up there?
Kiri: oh nothing much, I made the race team.
Carrie: oh yeah?
Carrie: cool, I hear youíre wearing a new cut too.
Kiri: yeah, well Iíve had it for oh, couple weeks
Carrie: oh have you?
Carrie: me too, Iím real short now.
Kiri: yeah I heard, so I heard, Tia told me.
Carrie: Iím very short.
Kiri: uh-huh, mind you youíre short compared to me
Carrie: oh ha ha.
Kiri: mind you, youíre tall compared to Tia.
Carrie: okay, thatís one up on me.
Kiri: uh-huh. So, wedding plans huh? You want us to
write out a wedding speech for you right?
Carrie: oh and I didnít tell Tia that I've got some
really exciting news. Okay Russ would know, maybe.
Do you know the Orlando Magic?
Russ: yeah, yeah I know them.
Carrie: okay, you know the pastor for the Orlando
Carrie: well we met him at a couple forums and at
the last function we met him at?
Carrie: he remembered who we were and we were
talking to him and I we told him that we were
getting married and he was really excited. And I
just kind of blew it by him, I said, "you know, that
would be great if you could be our minister." And he
said he would.
Kiri: whoa, who is he?
Carrie: Iím so excited because this man, he like
changed my life, he helped me out a lot with a lot
of things I had questions about that I didnít
understand when it came to Christian religion.
Kiri: oh, I was trying to figure out who the Orlando
Carrie: itís a basketball team.
Kiri: yeah Russ just told me, he goes, "basketball".
Russ: Shaquille OíNeal.
Carrie: yes, so itís a basketball team and he is
just an awesome, motivational, powerful speaker,
heís a great guy, just has so much love in his heart
and warmth. So heís got a youth camp he's got to get
to at the end of June but heís not sure what day so
he told us to call him at home and so we've been
trying to get ahold of him. Itís very hard to get
ahold of him, he lives in Florida and he travels a
lot so tonight we tried to get ahold of him and we
left a message and he's going to get back with us. I
am so excited if he could come down. He said he
would do that, he would come down hereÖ
Carrie: he would fly out here and marry us.
Kiri: oh that would be great.
Carrie: I mean I was so excited, I was like that
would just...I mean that would top it.
Kiri: oh yeah, that would.
Carrie: that would just make it so awesome because
he is justÖÖthis man changed my life, he really did,
he changed a lot of things on the way Iíve thought
Carrie: and the way I thought about just the whole
Christianity you know? Everything and how to put
that in perspective into day-to-day lifeÖ..
Carrie: and the way I never understood it before and
I mean not that Iím like a holy roller now or
Kiri: no, I donít think you could ever be.
Carrie: itís a different perspective on it and he
really helped me out a lot just by talking on stage
and then when I met him and then when he remembered
us, that even blew me away more. Because this man
meets tens of thousands of people all the time.
Kiri: okay now do you have a dress for the evening
after the wedding?
Carrie: no, not yet.
Kiri: okay, do you want me to sketch you up a
Carrie: oh, oh would you?
Kiri: yeah, no problem.
Carrie: oh yeah. See I still havenít even got the
bridesmaids dresses up.
Carrie: Iím getting them made but I know what I
want, I just canít, I have to get it down on paper,
I have to get a pattern for it for her.
Kiri: okay, quick question, do you want big, fluffy,
short sleeves or do you want a long sleeve, do you
want backless or a low neck line?
Carrie: a low neck line and backless.
Kiri: okay Iíll see what I can do.
Carrie: no puffy sleeves.
Kiri: no puffy sleeves. Okay, I can come upÖÖ.
Carrie: I donít do bows well.
Kiri: okay, how about a little cape to go with it?
Carrie: oh that would be cuteÖ.
Carrie: oh that would be really cute. See, I didnít
even know you were supposed to have an after dress,
I really need my mom.
Kiri: you didnít know?
Carrie: I didnít know you were supposed to have one
until a couple days ago someone said something to
me. I said, "a going away outfit, whatís that? I
thought that was his blue jeans and a T-shirt".
Kiri: Iíll come up with something real flashy. Now
how about satin?
Carrie: how about satin?
Kiri: yeah, something in satin. Emerald green,
Carrie: no, it canít be emerald green, itís got to
match my colors.
Carrie: my colors are ivory, wine and black.
Kiri: black, I can come up with a shimmery black
dress with a ivory coloredÖhmm, thatís an
interestingÖÖIíll draw it down on paper.
Kiri: okay and weíre waiting on the doctor to arrive
and sheís nowhere in sight, she is late.
Carrie: oh oh.
Carrie: thatís not like her.
Kiri: no it isnít, we'll find out whatís going on in
a little while. Okay Iíll let you talk with Russ and
we'll let everything finish up then because you
sound a little tired in your voice.
Carrie: yeah, well itís 11, itís 10 after 11 hereÖ..
Carrie: and I have just been beat.
Kiri: well it's only 10 after eight up here.
Carrie: well yeah, weíre a three-hour time
Kiri: oh yeah thatís right, yeah. Oh well, Iíll let
you finish up with Russ.
Kiri: bye. And Tia says bye sister mind.
Carrie: tell her bye.
Kiri: I will.
Russ: howís it going love?
Carrie: oh fantastic, how are you?
Russ: oh Iím doing really good, busier then heck
working two jobs.
Carrie: why are you doing that?
Russ: well itís wintertime, we do that here in
Carrie: oh thatís right.
Russ: Heavenly and all that kind of stuff. So how is
Carrie: oh fantastic, I love going to school but I
hate the school.
Russ: interesting, howís your stress levels doing?
Carrie: Iím reading a book right now thatís called
"Brighten Your Day with Self-esteem"?
Carrie: I read 20 minutes a day and itís gotten a
lot better just because nothingís worth it. I mean
sure, I might like stumble a few times during the
day but I pick myself back up.
Russ: well good, good.
Carrie: itís not as bad as it used to be but things
are real good.
Russ: okay. Hey, practice any on your personal
shielding at all?
Carrie: a little bit, not as much as I should be.
Russ: do you need any help with it?
Russ: okay, what Iíll try to do then is give you a
call tomorrow night probably around if I can six if
Karra can remind me.
Carrie: six your time?
Russ: yeah, six our time. You going to be there?
Carrie: I donít know.
Russ: well Iíll call and see what happens.
Carrie: yeah. If not, we'll be home later on in the
Russ: okay, well Iíll try every once in a while
Russ: and weíll hook up.
Carrie: yeah Iím not sure, you see weíve got major
ice storms going on right now tooÖ.
Carrie: so you kind of take your chances going
Russ: well weíll give it a shot and that way I can
talk to you more tomorrow.
Russ: all right love?
Carrie: tell everybody I said hi and it was nice
talking to Nicole and Johnny?
Carrie: is that it?
Russ: thatís it. Okay love, have a good night.
Carrie: okay, you too.
Russ: all right.
John: sleep well.
Carrie: bye you guys.
Russ: bye now.
(Tia returns to take over from Kiri)
Tia: I hate it when she does that, she causes
trouble and then what happens? She runs out on
Russ: oh well, thatís Kiri, at her best.
Tia: yes, at her best. Sheíll be back she says.
Okay, down to business.
Tia: oh Kiriís got a message that she put the kettle
Russ: yes she did.
John: yes she did. At least she didnít take Markís
car for a ride.
Russ: not in this weather.
Tia: no. Okay, Iíll see you guys in a few.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
(Omal is on for side one but
will be back)
Omal: greetings and felicitations everyone.
Greetings Johnny, greetings Nicole, greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: okay, down to business.
Omal: do we have questions?
Russ: Iíll jump off.
Omal: Johnny, do you have a question?
John: yeah, with getting ready for our survival
thing, since cooking is my heavy I was going to put
together a list of staples and things that we should
have on hand.
Omal: that would be very good.
John: okay, after I put it together, would one of
you go through it and check it out for me?
Omal: we will go through it with our nutritional
expert when you have completed it.
John: good, good, good.
Omal: Nicole, do you have a question?
Nicole: not at the moment.
Omal: not at this time okay, Russ.
Russ: okay, Iím getting set to get it up on the
Internet now at work, I got the okay on that.
Russ: and Iíve got some good instructional manuals
on how to get onto the Internet through this
survival magazine so getting onto those various
Russ: input wise, Iím not going to have too much,
it's going to be mostly reporting.
Russ: so Iím just going to be watching and
Russ: and I'm going to try to find out some more
stuff. The other stuff I read in there Iím going to
ask you about later but I just wanted to give you
that information for now.
Russ: Johnny? I don't want to hog everything here,
you guys got anything?
Nicole: if there is a decision in someoneís life,
you canít tell them what path to take can you?
Nicole: why not?
Omal: because it is interference in your evolution
on an individual scale.
Russ: you can advise her right?
Omal: what is your question?
Nicole: but if you advise me?
Omal: I would be breaking the rules.
Omal: the advice I can give you is, what is best for
Nicole: I knew you didnít say that.
Omal: what would make you happy?
Nicole: I knew you were going to say that. Can you
give to me some good points and bad points about
each of them?
Omal: okay, good points of staying in Australia is
itís a stable environment, it is something that you
know, it is something that you have a connectedness
to. About coming to this country? It is a challenge
that will keep you young because it is a challenge,
it is a new adventure and you are adventuresome.
Omal: it will give you an opportunity for more
contacts, more experiences that you would not
otherwise have on your island continent.
Nicole: if this opportunity was anywhere in our
country, I know what I'm talking about because of
Nicole: if this wasÖ..if this opportunity was
anywhere in Australia Iíd grab it. The only thing
is, it's familyÖ.
Nicole: and friends as well but mainly family.
Omal: you do not have to break contact with your
family and friends, just because you are separated
by a great distance, doesnít mean to say that you no
longer have contact with them.
Nicole what about just your personal opinions?
Omal: my personal opinions are irrelevant at this
Omal: because they serve no purpose in your
Nicole: yeah but I'd like to hear your personal
opinion over everyone elseís.
Omal: they serve no purpose.
Nicole: okay I got the message, thanks.
Omal: youíre welcome. Yes? You were about to say
something young lady.
Nicole: yes I was about to sayÖÖ
Omal: only when I have to be.
Nicole: got it. With astral travel, what's
Nicole: Iím trying to likeÖ
Omal: trying to learn.
Nicole: learn how to move like my mind to do it and
Mark never's got time.
Omal: Tia is the one to discuss it with, she is an
astral traveler and as for Mark, make him have time.
Nicole: oh no, heís working or heís always at Hades
Omal: hmm, I see your problem but pester him, he
will teach you if you pester him.
Omal: I believe what he is doing at the moment is
teaching you a lesson. And what is the lesson that
he's teaching you?
Nicole: to be eager enough to learn it?
Omal: no, Russ?
Omal: yes, I believe that is what he is teaching
Nicole: but youíre just telling me to pester him.
Nicole: when you pester someone, thatís not being
Omal: that is correct, maybe he is not a good
teacher but what he does know and what he can teach
is very useful information that can be used. Is that
Russ: that is correct.
Omal: but he has very strange ways on teaching. Tia
on the other hand is very keen on teaching people
and she has a very successful teaching technique. Do
you still have it around Russ?
Russ: the tape?
Omal: okay, we will try that to start off with. That
is from what I have been informed is a basic astral
travel tape, very basic.
Nicole: when I finally learn how to do it, can I
come and meet you?
Omal: it would be an honor and a pleasure and I
believe you enjoy.....I do not imbibe in wine myself
Nicole: I can do without it.
Omal: okay, I was about to say we will have some way
Nicole: okay, I'll take it, I'll take you up on
Russ: last question, Carrie mentioned a bulge in her
stomach at her heartÖ.
Russ: this wouldn't be an effect of our shielding
transfer would it?
(a shield they had put around the house we were in
had been moved to protect her)
Omal: no, no.
Russ: hmm okay, thank you.
Omal: Johnny, do you have a question? Have you
remembered what it was?
John: it had something to do with survival, Iím
going to take some notes and discuss it with Russ.
Omal: was it half, a fire half?
John: no, we were discussing about fire and fire
building and some different......
Omal: and stone circles.
John: yeah, Russ and I were discussing various
things about fire building and the environment and
different aspects of it.
Omal: uh-huh. OkayÖ..
Russ: oh well.
Nicole: one more question.
Nicole: is Australian accounting much different to
Omal: Iím not an accountant, if I was I would be
able to give you an answer. I have people that do
accounting for me.
Omal: maybe our accounting system is different from
your accounting system.
Nicole: I just know that tax laws are different
here. For instance, Nevada doesn't even pay tax and
whereas California do, so I just felt maybe....
Omal: you would have to ask our analyst and she is
of being a little bit boisterous at the moment.
Nicole: okay. Bye.
Omal: live long, prosper, and Iíll be back.
(Tia is back for most of the rest
of the side)
Tia: uh-huh. Yes please, light, no sugar.
John: Kiri put some water in the kettleÖ.
John: but she didnít turn the stove on so weíve got
a big pot of ice cold water.
Tia: thatís Kiri for you.
John: I went up and I just turned on so itíll be a
Tia: okay, no problem at all, no problem at all.
Nicole: Tia, how come you drink your tea the same as
Tia: because heís the one that got me addicted to
tea. Thatís what we used to drink when he first
astral traveled up here. We used to sit and drink
tea and he said one day, "here, try it like I drink
it". Because I used to put sweetener in there and
drink it black.
Nicole: yeah, I don't like it like that.
Tia: uh-huh. But I went without the sweetener and it
was sort of like it's more flavorful that way and I
had very acute taste buds as well as sense of smell.
So thatís how I drink my tea.
Russ: okay Tia?
Russ: we have jokes and we have business, which do
you want first? Or humor and business.
Tia: okay, humor.
Russ: humor, okay. This is all about Lance Ito's
Side Bar and Grill, all about the O.J. Simpson
Russ: okay. Oh, did you hear that O. J.'s going to
try marriage again? Yep, heís going to take another
stab at it.
Russ: okay, now at the Lance Ito Side Bar and Grill,
the motto is, "Join us for dinner if you have an
hour to kill".
Tia: I could tell you a Durondedunn joke but somehow
it loses it in translation.
Russ: weíre working on this evening currency
Tia: uh-huh. Peso, whooshÖ.
Tia: Lira, whoosh, pound is teetering a little bit,
Deutsche Mark is rising, American dollar is having
Russ: okay. Now hyperinflation, are we going to see
that in scenarios A, B or C or all three?
Tia: hyperinflation, a little in B and a lot in C.
Russ: okay. Now what Iím seeing or what Iím reading
here is that itís possibly the government trying to
fix the national debt by monetizing it.
Russ: in other words hyperinflate the dollar, then
devalue it and issue a new dollar thereby wiping out
the debt and us.
Tia: uh-huh, pretty much so huh?
Tia: whose idea is that though?
Russ: one of the contributors to this magazine.
Tia: oh, about the governmentÖ.
Russ: well itís been done before.
Tia: uh-huh. When was it done last?
Russ: well let's see, let's take Uruguay for one
Russ: being as we're working with their currency
Tia: yes, I heard about that.
Russ: I would assume that thatís exactly what they
did at one point.
Tia: uh-huh and itís been done many times. Sometimes
it works, depends on the economic situation,
sometimes it doesnít work. If you take the Deutsche
Mark in the 1920's, they tried that and it made it
Russ: they tried to issue a new one then?
Russ: and it made it worse?
Tia: yeah and they were issuing new ones so often it
may be even more worse.
Russ: hmm okay.
Tia: yeah, you'd have Deutsche Markís that were okay
one day but the following day were absolutely
Russ: now our dollar bills are backed by gold right?
Tia: uh-huh, to a certain extent yes.
Russ: okay but that gold amount they're backed by
Russ: and thatís why we....our values become less
Tia: thatís correct.
Russ: okay cool. So what about all the gold that we
have in Fort Knox?
Russ: thatís sitting there to back up our dollars
Tia: thatís correct.
Russ: okay. Now, in looking at the future we need
food, fuel, water and communication.
Russ: then we can start working on putting money
aside in coins or precious metals.
Russ: okay. Now in Cambodia, when the Keymer Rouge
Tia: the Khmer.
Russ: the Khmer Rouge, thank youÖ..the country
Russ: but people still used gold and silver at
current market prices they received over the radio
to buy goods and supplies.
Russ: I'm assuming we can do the same thing.
Tia: yeah but the thing to watch out for is if they
make precious metals illegalÖ.
Tia: then you are in really deep trouble
Russ: you mean like FDR did with gold?
Tia: thatís right. So what you do is you buy gold
Russ: hmm, Johnny?
John: uh-huh, got it.
Russ: the man over there.
Tia: uh-huh, Mr. Gold Dealer.
Russ: okay, thatís a good idea.
Tia: because that way they canít take it away from
you whereas coins and stuff they can take away from
Russ: okay, now on the currency with situation A,
you mentioned that we donít have a problem with the
Russ: okay, that's merely.....weíre working with the
same currency we're working with now?
Russ: just it's less valued or something?
Russ: thatís how it is?
Tia: uh-huh, less valued on the economic
Russ: okay, so in other words, the money I make at
Tia: will still buy the same amount in your
Tia: but if you wish to buy foreign goods, they'll
Russ: oh I see. But won't that encourage more
Russ: thatís good then.
Russ: bad for the world, good for us.
Tia: uh-huh. It's good for many things actually.
Nicole: talking about other currencies TiaÖ
Nicole: you know theÖ.
Tia: Australian dollar? Uruguayan Peso?
Nicole: yeah, you know the rates there?
Tia: no I donít, foreign exchange doesnít interest
me that much. Iím more interested in stocks, bonds,
shares, dividends, bull markets and this bull market
has been going for a long time.
Nicole: can you find out the rate for the Uruguayan
Tia: I can try. You want me to do that right now?
Nicole: oh, whenever youíve got the time.
Tia: okay. I was about to say, you want me to
surprise you again with my computer skills?
Russ: that's alright love, you're doing good anyway.
Russ: okay, now something that we picked up from
what's called I guess a patriot radio station? I'm
not exactly sure what that is, I'm going to look
more into it.....is that the CID, which is
theÖ..let's see if I've got it right here real
Tia: Central Intelligence Department?
Russ: no. Oh here we go, right here, is Criminal
Russ: and they've been hitting up some of the supply
houses on the East Coast and rounding up all
military meals or ready to eat claiming that they
were in civilian possession and they were stolen.
But basically what we're looking at is, why would
the government be trying to take all the MRE's?
Tia: I donít know, Iíd have to look into that and I
do have lots of things to look into at the moment.
Russ: well donít worry about it, I was just kind of
Tia: speculating? Hmm, very good areas of
Russ: that's I was thinking. Just thought I'd add
some data to you your current list of things that
you might not have on store.
Tia: oh believe you me, I have lots of things in
store. I've got a copy of the state of the nation
address waiting for me when I get back.
Russ: did he do that tonight?
John: yeah, yeah.
Russ: oh, how we doing?
John: things suck, things are not well.
Russ: okay. AnywayÖ.
Tia: like you didnít know that already huh?
John: yeah, like he's telling us something that we
didnít already know. Sad but true.
Russ: well I thought we could start working on
making our own homemade MRE's because we've got a
whole list of stuff we could work off.
Tia: uh-huh. Okay, running out of time here.
Russ: thatís all Iíve got.
Tia: oh, okay. Any other questions?
John: yeah, with turning off the internal dialogueÖ.
John: in our minds.....
John: do you guys have anything on tape, does Russ
or Mark have anything on tape regarding that?
Tia: I believe thereís an astral travel tape kicking
Tia: which switches it off because youíre listening
to the tape.
Russ: Mark's got it.
John: okay. All right, thatís what I needed to know,
Tia: yes? Oh okay.
Nicole: can you read my mind Tia?
Tia: a little, you have a very close frequency.
Nicole: meaning what?
Tia: you have a very close frequency to Markís.
Tia: thatís why Mark will turn around sometimes and
ask you if youíre okay even if he hasnít been
looking at you. Have you noticed that?
Tia: uh-huh and sometimes you can tell that even
though heís bubbly and bouncy that heís not really.
Nicole: well, we want to take him...tell him we want
to take him out this Friday night and I was only
joking around that we were going to get him drunk,
we just want him to come out.......
Nicole: and enjoy socializing?
Tia: yes, Mark is a bit of a recluse at times isn't
Nicole: can youÖ..?
Tia: talk him into it?
Tia: Iíll try.
Nicole: he only has to come out and drink water.
(Tia speaks to one of the cats in Durondedunn)
Tia: where did he go?
John: heís right there underneath the pyramid, just
out of arms reach.
Nicole: what did you say to her?
Tia: I told her to be patient and relax.
John: you scared her, she ran away.
Tia: I did not scare her. If I could make Markís
fingernails do what mine do Iíd scratch your eyes
out for comments like that.
Nicole: I got my claws out the other day Tia.
Tia: oh you did, tell me.
Nicole: I was just being a bitch.
Tia: well it is fun sometimes isn't it?.
Nicole: it wasn't meant to be fun.
Tia: yeah, but kind of feel good afterwards a little
Tia: uh-huh. OkayÖ.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn)
(Karra ends up what's left of
Russ: hi Karra.
Russ: how you doing love?
Karra: oh tired.
Russ: Iíll bet, running into the session alone?
Karra: uh-huh. Okay what can I do for you guys?
Nicole: what does Rodan mean?
Karra: I donít speak foreign languages, I only speak
English and Sirian.
Russ: what's the word?
Russ: sounds like a monster on Godzilla.
John: yeah, it's a Japanese monster, thatís the one
thing that came to mind for me.
Russ: anyway, Karra? You checked out my genetic
Russ: no worries?
Karra: not at this time. You've got to stay away
from certain things though.
Karra: increase your intake in tomatoes, they might
help a little.
Russ: okay, what should I stay away from?
Karra: hmm, well coffee for one. Yes I know.
Russ: how about tea?
Karra: tea? You could cut down on.
Karra: uh-huh but all the things that I would take
away from you would take your enjoyment out of life.
Russ: well I'm not worried about it, I know which
ones they are.
Karra: you can enjoy some of them don't you?
Russ: oh sure.
Karra: uh-huh. Oh wellÖ
Russ: oh well.
Russ: what about Carrie?
Karra: Carrie, yes. There's a problem.
Karra: Iím still getting reports at this time.
Nicole: you know about gingivitis?
Karra: thatís a old gum ailment thatís been done
Nicole: well I think Iím getting it.
(Treebeard comes on to
Treebeard: hello. We talk?
Treebeard: okay. You prepared?
Treebeard: okay. Hmm, first I will say hmm, am
Russ: excellent, itís good to see you, itís been a
Treebeard: hmm, by your counting or mine?
Russ: my counting.
Treebeard: hmm. Okay, I start by saying it is
honor being here?
Russ: itís an honor to have you here.
Treebeard: thank you. I endeavor to act with one
appearing of age beyond rejuvenation? We talk, act
as two together?
Treebeard: okay. Pulling on vast experience of
long time, I think wise to pontificate my thought
processes on subjects to be answered afterwards.
Thoughts being of understanding and growing and
time of being great length to grow to reach
objective of learning and comprehension of
important and weighted matters. With great life
and understanding comes certain knowledge of
patience to a point. Patience being prepared to
sit down and listen and think andÖ..little
wordÖdwell upon processes of comprehension and
patience. Patience being important to learn. It is
necessary to wait questions before giving answers.
When talking in a manner of generalities, it is
important to be general. If specified, then
problems occur in not answering question. When
given time to facilitate discussions, it is wise
to weigh the answers and read all possible
meanings which brings into play generalities when
speaking. So by talking in a general way on the
topic and not deviating is important for the
coming processes which you will be able to
participate and act as a facilitator for this
process. It is from great learning and time that I
think and weigh answers. In past I have been
accused of not being focused on matters, this is
far from truth. It is my processes of analyzing,
thinking, weighing, speculating on possible
replies that gives the appearance of not focused.
In fact great focus is my problem, not lack
thereof. So, when asking questions concerning
botanical natures, I appear unfocused to outside,
independent, unlearned observers but answer now
given on how interaction of your species to animal
forms and plant forms is given. Plants go through
cycles like you do. Rhythmic cycles that are
affected by your solar disk as you are. So plants
track in their motions and always face towards
your solar disk. This is part of their nature.
Also, like you, you become less active as less of
your solar disk is in your sky. And when it
becomes of a lower ambient temperature they, like
you, again become less active until they reach
point of dormancy. Dormancy comes in two phases,
normal cyclical dormancy on minimal scale, the
rising and falling of the solar disk and on a
larger annular cycle being the cycle of rotating
away to your solar disk. Having studied over great
time, I have noticed that in your summer you are
further away from solar disk then in your winter
but this is affecting the end cycle as the axis of
your planet is tilted further away at a more acute
angle then during your warm seasons. This answer
is a reply and a demonstration on answering a
general question. The question that was asked was,
"how do plants go through their growth cycles?"
That is a general statement, general being lack of
specification on what species of plant. Are we
discussing trees, bushes, shrubs or are we
discussing annual plants that live their cycle
from one year only and then return in seed form?
So, my answer is also generalized. This is
important for you with discussions that if you ask
a general question you get a general answer even
if it is not thought of as a general answer. It is
necessary when facilitating in a discussion that
you specify exactly what the question is. For
example, how do you feel? That is a general
question with many answers and meanings. For
example, do you feel through the neurons within
you, the nerves within your extremities or, do you
feel as is stated on your planet with your mind
meaning your emotional status or, how do you feel
about something? How do you feel? That means many
different things and the answers can be many and
varied. If you take a specified question how do
you feel through your fingers? That is a specified
question. So it is important for these conferences
and discussions to specify. Now, as I am stated I
am focused, I have always been lucid. Now, ask
Russ: all right and that was quite informative
actually. I do have some questions on those. First
off, with the conferences coming up as you
mentioned, the questions such as how do you feel
when asked in such a general way is in another
words we ask it as if it means nothing, itís just
something we say throwing it out letís say, how do
you feel? And itís just a basic question. With the
conferences, is it safer then to ask a more
general or a more specific question?
Treebeard: it is best to start off with
generalizing on questions. Later it is better to
specify exactly what the questions are. In my
quick thinking, it is necessary to say when you
start off by generalizing, you will receive many
different answers. This will tell you if the hosts
are conscious or not conscious or if they are
letting the participants speak unfiltered.
Treebeard: in analyzing possible questions in a
hasty manner, I see how you will be able to
determine if the hosts are aware of what is going
on or not aware. This will be evident from A, the
quickness of the reply and B, the construction of
the sentences that will be replied. For example,
how do you feel? I will wager that 80% will say,
"I feel well". That would tell me that they are
either semi-conscious or conscious and are putting
in their personalities. If the reply is as I would
expect from the Zeta Reticuloids, "please specify
question more accurately", youíll be aware that an
analytic consciousness is involved. And, in
analyzing the question even on a non-deep
processes of analyzing, you are aware that you are
dealing with a different perspective and
Russ: so in essence there will be also a couple
ways that this could be answered. It seems to be
as for example with you, a longer lifespan or a
longer time lived brings out more patience as
opposed to someone like ourselves who have a
shorter lifespan, we lack more of the patience. So
perhaps a older lived race might think a while
Russ: hmm, okay.
Treebeard: but that is just the start of a answer.
A short word is never acceptable in giving a
answer, there are no such things as a yes or a no
answer if you think carefully. I have noticed and
observed in your species that you are rapid in
your replies and therefore do not analyze and do
not speak either truthfully on your feelings or
you say things that you regret later. If I was to
ask you a question, for example, did you do well
at your place of earning? Your answer would beÖ.
Russ: yes indeed.
Treebeard: that is a short, quick-thought answer
that says nothing. So by watching, thinking and
analyzing your reply, you have a conversation that
is informative and entertaining. Short answers
having lived to the age that I am to me shows lack
of, lack of......I am looking for a word that is
not condescending......lack of comprehension.
Treebeard: also it shows a hurried nature which at
times can be appropriate but in a relaxed
environment is unnecessary. I have also through
many years of observation before I retired and
watching certain individual areas on your planet,
have observed that differences in speech and
thought patterns and pride in abilities varies
from location to location. I have noticed that
countries connected with the Imperial Empire of
Great Britain have the ability to hold
intelligent, long discussions yet countries that
are either of French tend to be short and abrupt
and not think things through. Areas that have been
on their own or independent for a while seem to
have the ability to answer without thinking and
therefore decrease their fluidity in communication
and blur languages. Next statement please.
Russ: okay. With the United States being a
ex-Imperial Great Britain colony, are we similar
to them or are we somewhere between the
independent or the French and Great Britain?
Treebeard: I would say that it would be necessary
for you to take a lesson in your countryís
history. Your area was never a part of the
Imperial British Empire.
Treebeard: to those that believe that it was, I
will state simply and basically, when your
colonies were a part of the British Empire it was
not a Empire, you understand?
Treebeard: so that is part of the problem of
understanding, it is important to have facts when
you make questions. To answer your question, it is
independent and therefore there is a lot of, again
I hate to sound condescending but it is something
I have observed and listened to from your news
media's, your entertainment mediaís and general
observations, inane drivel is transmitted
frequently in your discussions.
Russ: quite true.
Treebeard: I feel that that is a waste of
communicative and intellectual abilities. It is
sad and is beyond retrieval in the near future. I
remember hearing a young gentleman say, "me doth
think he does complain too much" and that in
itself is what I see from your area of the planet.
Treebeard: much is said but nothing is
Russ: uh-huh. Now a lot of our ability to
communicate is based of course on our third
dimensional existence. With the addition of
telepathy, is communication then becoming a more
fluid form of discussion then or how does that
Treebeard: despite popular thought processes
happening, it increases the linguistic ability and
necessity to specify. As you project a thought
processes, it is necessary to be specific and
eloquent in how you communicate your words. If you
communicate poorly on a physical and telepathy
level, it leads to all kinds of misunderstanding
and lacking in comprehension. It is important to
specify exactly what you say. In specifying, it
makes it easier to know exactly what is said. More
youthful individuals transmit feelings and
emotions as well as statements, generalized
statements. This blurs the lines between eloquent
communication and communicating on a normal level.
Specifying exactly what is said is important.
Russ: uh-huh. Okay, so with the key ingredients of
these conferences all being based on a physical
communication, then it's more important than ever
Treebeard: specify exactly.
Russ: right, because you donít have things like
telepathy and such toÖ.
Treebeard: that is correct. It is important to, as
I have stated and something that I dislike to do
is repeat myself but I will, it is important to
weigh the answers and the questions. In
understanding of these discussions, a misplaced
word can slow down or reverse the conference
processes. So it is important to specify exactly
and to answer after weighing each question. In
weighing the questions, you can formulate a
coherent and intelligent answer.
Treebeard: last question......
Russ: what about plants if I could? When they,
plants as you mentioned work, we were discussing
animals last week and on instinct. Are plants
similar in their instinctual levels as far as
their relating to the world around them?
Treebeard: hmm, this I cannot give you a direct
answer. A, due to the vagueness of the question
and also to my lack of knowing what was said last
time that you communicated with us. I will state
that I will dwell upon this and remind you that
your time measurements are meaningless to me as I
do not measure in your mode of measuring. I
measure time in cycles and processes of the plants
that I take care of and communicate with. It is
part of the understanding that in these processes,
that if I give a statement that is quickly
answered, I give inaccurate answers on these
passions that I have.
Russ: all right. Iíll see if I can reword the
question though to a more definitive one.
Treebeard: okay, first I will make a deal with
Treebeard: if you ask a vaguely worded question, I
will answer with one word, specify.
Russ: all right, fair deal.
Treebeard: okay, let us proceed. Reword the
question in a way that is specified.
Russ: okay. Last week, Alana and myself discussed
the instinctual communications that animals have
and their abilities to be able to......the
differences how they communicate or think. Some
think and have an intellectual ability to
understand the world around them and some react
strictly by an instinctual level that is merely
based on their emotions or fears or happiness.
With plants, I have always wondered about their
ability to understand the world around them and
whether or not they have a sense of their
surroundings and are able to form aÖ..
Treebeard: specify. I will change the rules
slightly, you are generalizing with the term
Russ: plants. Okay, daisies, I like daisies.
Treebeard: daisies are non-sentient and
Russ: ahh, okay.
Treebeard: however, one of the reasons I am here
on Hades Base is aÖ..I think it is time that you
know who I am related to. My great, great, great,
great, great, great grandniece is a student of
another distant relative of mine on the base. My
most favorite great, great, great, great, great,
great grandniece has my talent. My talent is, and
this will answer your question as you try to
process who they are, is I penetrate and slide
under shields. No, try again.
Treebeard: my most favorite grandniece by six has
done that to you many times but plants, trees,
trees are my most favoriteÖ..no, you are
closeÖ..are my most favorite of all the fauna of
your planet and my planet because like myself they
dwell, they think, they feel. Of all the fauna,
those are the most highly evolved. But, it does
not come in a sapling, a yearling or a century.
Your trees that you have near to your residence
have long, long time to go before they get to that
level of awareness.
Treebeard: having dwelled upon your area when you
are asked questions, the nearest that you come are
the few groves of ancient trees and the ones on
your recreational area that you indulge in. I
believe the name you have given them
is.........sorry it eludes me.
Treebeard: not the ones in your recreational area
(Heavenly Ski Resort).
Russ: ahh, those ones.
Treebeard: very ancient and learned but seldom
communicate in a intelligible way. They are not
sentient but they have vast knowledge if you know
how to listen to them. Now, with my ability and
great experience, I was able to probe both you and
the friend that you had with you. We will save
that for a time when I have not pontificated on
such a level.
Treebeard: now, who is my greatÖ..I will not
repeat that as that bored you, grandniece?
Treebeard: I do not have pointed ears.
Russ: well yeah. I thought Kiri and you said
Treebeard: no but when you said Kiri you had part
of the statement.
Treebeard: she has a student.
Russ: oh, you mean Miranda?
Treebeard: not soÖ.
Russ: it'd beÖ..is it? Oh, Leah.
Russ: it is Leah?
Russ: ahh, okay.
Treebeard: and who is my most favorite greatÖ..?
Treebeard: correct, who is she that has my
Russ: well I thought it was Bunny.
Russ: oh I did get that right. Oh, because thatís
one where I thought of and you said, "no, but
Treebeard: you did not specify her name, Bunny is
Russ: oh, Huna.
Treebeard: again, Huna is her stage name.
Treebeard: but Huna is acceptable.
Treebeard: thank you.
Russ: thank you.
(The Baron is co-ringmaster with Treebeard for
this session and makes the changeover to Omal)
The Baron: uh-huh.
Russ: greetings Baron.
The Baron: ahh, was ist los? He doesÖ..I find
humorous his reference to juvenile of great age
The Baron: when I that age, I will be dust.
Russ: when Iím that age, Iíll be in another
The Baron: when you that age you'll be dust also,
different other body.
Russ: different other body, at least different
The Baron: yes, as I had fun poked at me in
morning? Different other fellow donít you know old
chap. Okay, I am not speaking much as can man and
myself act as double team ja?
Russ: ahh good, okay.
The Baron: okay?
Russ: works for me.
The Baron: so I will be putting on next person and
discussing thought processes concerning probing
Russ: excellent, I look forward to it.
The Baron: ja, danka.
(Omal wraps up the session in
the time left)
Omal: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Omal: I am on briefly as you are aware Madam ambassador
is discussing something with the Man with the Can.
Omal: heís not big on nicknames but he has taken a
liking to his nickname.
Russ: oh okay, well it works.
Omal: it makes it easier for us to communicate
Russ: uh-huh, I imagine his name is fairly
unpronounceable for me.
Russ: I thought so, excellent.
Omal: it would be appropriate to either address
him as Sir or mister.
Russ: okay. I would ask how you feel but I wonít.
Omal: please specify the question.
Russ: would you care for some orange juice? We
have some fresh orange juice we bought?
Omal: not at this time......
Omal: not at this time, you remember the rule?
Russ: oh yes, thatís right.
Omal: otherwise I will be forced to do 20 press
Russ: all right, fair enough.
Omal: okay first of all let us go over what the
Man with the Can said. There isnít much that I can
fault him on. He does have a different outlook on
plant life. I thought that it would be appropriate
to bring him in as his ability that was never
discussed. If you remember it was alluded to
Omal: is useful in research.
Omal: now, Iím going to quickly mention aÖ..I
suppose I might as well use the jargon of the day
and it is something that again Madam ambassador
and myself have been working on.
Russ: no problem.
Omal: attention deficit disorder, have you ever
dealt with it before?
Russ: Iíve never heard of it before.
Omal: okay it is a person of limited attention
span. Now, having received reports that I
requested on it, I have noticed two distinct
classes. There are those that suffer that have
been classified as attention deficit
disorder......let me rephrase that, three
categories......that are not. The second group is
the attention deficit disorder which means that
you have a limited attention span on things and
will chop and change from topic to topic. Now, the
second group comprisesÖ..let us say break them
into three groupsÖ..80% of people diagnosed with
it do not have it. 18% fall into group two that do
have it and they are highly, highly intelligent.
2% have it and are of low intelligence or medium
to low intelligence. At the moment I am aware of
two individuals that you have come in contact that
fall into both categories. A common problem and a
noticeable one on the 18% is that they will talk
rapidly and fast and jump from topic to topic very
rapidly. They will retain all of that information.
The second group will jump from topic to topic,
retain nothing and repeat themselves, jumping in a
circular motion from topic to topic.
Omal: you have a question before I proceed?
Russ: what's the third group?
Omal: the third group is the 2%.
Russ: oh, thatís the 2%.
Omal: yes, the 80% is those that are misdiagnosed.
Russ: okay so the first group is basically just a
short attention span.
Russ: all right and the other one is just highly
intelligent but theyÖÖ.
Omal: no, the opposite way around.
Russ: oh, very low intelligence andÖ..
Omal: medium to low.
Russ: medium to low and they jump around topic to
topic and thatís the 2%.
Omal: thatís correct.
Russ: and then thereís the 18% who are highly
Russ: and jump from back-to-back.
Omal: and they retain all the information that
they learn and track the conversation. Now if you
look at the 18% and what they do when they jump
from topic to topic getting snippets of
information and tracking it, that takes a lot of
thought processes does it not?
Omal: which goes with theyíre highly intelligent.
Russ: well it's said that the brain can only hold
what is it, seven things in its mind at once?
Omal: most will.
Russ: right, so these people are probably like
Russ: I see, so that would be like maybe Einstein
or a TeslaÖ.
Russ: kind of deal?
Omal: yes. There is a young lady that has not been
in a channeling session for a long time that has
Russ: oh, a long time huh?
Omal: after Bethany.
Russ: after Bethany, God, I can't remember now.
Omal: she is......
Russ: ahh, of course.
Omal: which explains why you have your frustration
with her is because of her bouncing from topic to
topic way of going.
Omal: if you were to ask her about a discussion
that you had the last time that you met, she will
Russ: hmm, sheís better than I am then.
Omal: she is highly intelligent.
Russ: oh so thatís the second oneÖ..
Russ: that falls into the category of attention
Russ: I see, okay. I got the first one already.
Omal: okay. Now the third one is the one that
involves a lot of work, a lot of patience, a lot
of coaching and repetitive statements. Thereís not
much that can be done to help them apart from look
upon them with compassion and understanding and
let them do and live in their world. There is
THE TAPE ENDS