How To Stop A Hostile Alien Invasion- 

Channeling Date (02/06/1996)
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Archivist Notes: Hollywood has given us scenes of the aftermath of space battles in a number of movies and TV shows but the channeling session for May will need those as a visual aid when Omal describes areas of space beyond our planet should any hostile alien force ever try to invade our planet in an attempt to take it over. Coming from a base commander of Ashtar Command in charge of the base monitoring and protecting the earth, that is as much of a guarantee that there can be. What else can be said in this initial summary about this channeling session is that an alien invasion is only part of a great deal of information we learned from the higher dimensional members of Hades base. Prior to Omal's revelations, Tia had helped our Australian guest with her astral travel questions and those she had about past lives. She also covers soul mates and parallel lifetimes so it was already an information channeling session. Side two brings us news on how the preparations were going with an upcoming wedding of Kiri and Karra's father to his soul mate. We then get an excellent discussion on the process of rejuvenation and how one can be born onto this planet after spending many lifetimes on another first. Kiri wraps up the session by giving us a lesson in the Sirian system of measurement and how it differs from ours. As we're getting near the end, we get to joke with Kiri about how her father now looks younger than her now that he's been through his first rejuvenation. This was a channeling session that gave us a lot in just an hour. Now, onto a more detailed summary.

   Tia gets things off to a quick start of answering questions and so our guest from Australia has some good questions that bring up even better answers. We start with past lives and the effects they have on a person's life path for however long the encounter may last. We then move onto a related field of soul mates where Tia is happy to explain how the triple soul relationship of her, Kiri, and Mark are so complete with each other. I know that feeling well through my connection with my twin soul, Karra. We finish things up, for the most part, discussing parallel lives when everything is possible. Tia is able to help our guest with her stress with some suggestions before handing off to Omal who would get us to side two. This is one of those times where science fiction doesn't hold a candle to reality and what the state of our planet is in relation to those other third dimensional races in our galaxy that may have an interest in the Earth and its people and resources. We are well-protected. Before Ashtar Command saves humanity, we go over some topics not quite as groundbreaking. First, our guest asks about the amount of brainpower used which gives us the answer to how our ascension may work out. We learn how much the Sirians used prior to their ascension and how much they use now. It explains how the speakers are able to answer most of the questions asked during these sessions. We cover the politics of the day next as the coming election would have a large effect on how the country progressed in many ways. What gets the conversation to outer space is a question about the types of movies and other media concerning aliens would be as the good guys or make them world-destroying terrors. Asking about the real-life possibility of an alien invasion reveals that any that was attempted would be soundly defeated by the massed resources Ashtar Command could bring to bear. Omal provides a sneak peek at what would be waiting for anyone foolish enough to take on the command with how the threat would be met. One takeaway from his explanation is that the reason for their very stiff defense is an oath Sirius gave to our planet a very long time ago. Ashtar Command's oath to Sirius bounds them to protect us from any hostile forces that would interfere with our spiritual development. Another takeaway is that they are powerless from stopping us from destroying the planet all on our own.

   Omal is almost finished but leaves us with a description of the end results of the space battle that would nothing but bits and pieces of an attacking enemy force. We wrap up by remembering Mark's trips in his astral body when he sat on the Hubble Telescope. Karra follows up Omal with an update on the wedding to take place that weekend between her dad and the very special Lady Goronsky or, as we like to call her, Gonzo. We next dive into past lives and the way reincarnation is always bringing both old souls and new souls to the planet constantly. Some to carry on the work of others who are ready to move up in dimensions. The Earth is an excellent school of learning for anyone wanting to have all the options of lives available in one place. It may not seem the best place to raise a consciousness but there are some very attentive caretakers to make sure nothing disturbs our education. She leaves after confirming a possibility that souls may spend 10,000 lifetimes on a planet before moving to the next one. That leaves Kiri to come on to get us to the end of the tape and from her we learn Tia's need to relieve her bladder seemed to be transmissible to Mark's body because it needed relief as well. Luckily, Kiri's control of his body allows her to answer nature's calling for him. A question is asked by our guest about the builders of the Great Pyramid and gets a lesson on the Sirian survivors from a destroyed continent who used their minds to get the stones where they were needed. An example of the power of the mind she suggests is the Coral Castle in Florida that was rumored to have been built in the same way. Any research into its construction will get find that the hidden potential of the mind needs further research as to its limits. We next compare measurement systems between civilizations and find out that their system of three has some advantages when it comes to space travel. We move on to the upcoming wedding and talk about her father's recent rejuvenation which took place somewhere near his three hundredth year. His resulting twenty-year-old body now allowed him a new life with a new wife. Lucky too because Kiri had her suspicions his eyesight had begun to deteriorate the closer to his rejuvenation he got. We get things closed out on the invitation our guest received from a bartender at the corner bar on the base when she finally was able to get there in her astral body and the answer to why boars have tits. Kiri provides a logical answer to an unexpected question. Quite the session and one that brings with it a sense of relief that our entire future depends on the kindness and goodness of our fellow man........we need a miracle.           

In love, light, and wisdom,
Russ and Karra


TIA- Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
OMAL RUSS (Archivist)



1.)(0:00)- Tia helps our guest from Australia through her questions about soul mates and past lives as we explore those connections together. A way out stress is offered to our guest through acceptance of the cause.
2.)(19:15)- Omal gives up some idea of our potential brainpower as we move up in dimensions. He also explains how any hostile alien force would be handled just in case some race was foolish enough to try.

1.)(0:00)- Omal completes his explanation of the defense of our planet by relating that the debris of any hostile ships that would be destroyed in a battle would be viewed by us once we are a full space race.
2.)(3:37)- Karra's dad is getting married and the base is getting ready for a celebration of the event. She goes on to explain that souls transition to this planet from other planets and even animals like dolphins.
3.)(17:06)- Kiri helps explains how PK was used to build both the Great Pyramid and the Coral Castle in Florida. Something tougher for her to explain is going between dimensions using spatial geometry.
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(Tia is the night's ring mistress and gets things going)

Tia: okay.

Russ: well, how's it going Tia?

Tia: fine, hi.

Russ: how was the catfight, who won?

Tia: nobody won.

Russ: Calvin retreated?

Tia: Calvin just went poof.

Russ: good for Calvin.

Tia: uh-huh. I untangled the two surviving fighters.

Russ: one of whom was your daughter?

Tia: yes.

(Ed. note: Calvin was one of our house cats that astral traveled to the base after following Mark once)

John: I'm sorry I missed last week's session, I'd like to get right into serious business if it's okay with you?

Tia: okay. So, how's it going?

Nicole: good, how are you?

Tia: that's good. I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm all feisty. My tail, if I had a tail, would be fluffed up in fun.

Russ: all right, anybody got first questions besides me?

Nicole: yeah, can I ask her?

Russ: fire away darling.

Nicole: all right Tia, astral traveling.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: knowing how to do all the breathing.....

Tia: uh-huh, that's the first step.

Nicole: yeah right. What are some more hints that you can tell me.

Tia: okay, relaxing but yet using a stimuli of some kind. I believe Mark used to use, and still does from time to time, tea. That keeps you stimulated, but doesn't give you too much stimulation for your body. There are many different types of aids to astral traveling, most of them are dead ends. The most successful one that isn't a dead-end is patience and practice. How many times have you tried, three times? Okay, and how may times have you succeeded?

Nicole: I've raised my body up above......

Tia: you raised yourself up out of your body....

Nicole: I lifted myself up out of my body.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: that's as far as I got.

Tia: okay, well that's a success. So you have to duplicate that.

Nicole: that was really the first time I done it. 

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and I've done it two other times since then.

Tia: so you need somebody to talk you through it, right?

Nicole: uh-huh.

Tia: okay, what we can do at the end of the channeling session is, these guys can stay down here, we'll go upstairs and I'll talk you into it.

Russ: how about we go upstairs and you put her on the pyramid?

Tia: well, we can go a that way as well. Would that work for you?

Russ: just lay in the chair and you work through the pyramid, that would be even better.

Tia: no.....

John: Tia, would the pyramid assist?

Tia: uh-huh, that's what I was about to say that it would be better for Nicole to be in the pyramid.

Nicole: uh-huh, all right then, that's better.

Russ: we'll figure it out.

Tia: yeah, uh-huh, we'll work on that at the end.

Nicole: all right.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: hmm, can I ask something?

Tia: yeah.

Russ: ask all you want.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: hmm, do you believe that every person in your life that you have met them somewhere else in other lives?

Tia: yes.

Nicole: and does it have a bearing on.....?

Tia: on how you react and behave towards them?

Nicole: yes.

Tia: yes, very much so.

Nicole: what happened in your past lives?

Tia: one of my past lives?

Nicole: no, no, I'm talking in general.

Tia: oh, in general.

Nicole: meeting someone and is there is a good chance that person was in a past life?

Tia: there is a high probability. However, like you meet strangers, souls will pass in the night as it were. Like ships in the night?

Nicole: uh-huh.

Tia: uh-huh. But people that come into your life and orbit around you for a period of time, whether it is a week, two weeks, a month, a year, are people that you have met before that have things to help you with. You take somebody that you bump into and you see them for a couple weeks and then they're gone again. They're there primarily to help you with one important thing in your life. It may seem trivial at the time but you look back on things in your past, in this life, right? Where people have had a dramatic effect even though you've only met them briefly for a week or so, or even a couple of days. Can anybody think of an incident where that's happened?

Russ: I have, but it was more somebody who I had known, many lifetimes, but recognizing it later....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but they're only my life for just.....

Tia: a brief period.

Russ: just a couple of weeks, but boy, it just changed my life all around.....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: completely.

Tia: yeah. Yeah, and it's somebody like that has done that before many times to you. They may stay with you for a longer period of time or a shorter period of time, but it has happened many, many times. There are people that you bump into just once or maybe twice and then you never see them again. Or somebody that you bump into just once a year for a couple of days.

Nicole: oh. Okay, one more question.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and then I'll stop.

Tia: that's Russ's line.

Nicole: hehe. With soul mates....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: is it possible that you come across a soulmate and.....

Tia: walked by them?

Nicole: no, you've actually met a soulmate...

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: your soulmate.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and you haven't realized it?

Tia: I believe I have done that.

Nicole: but every person has a soulmate....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and only one soulmate.

Tia: hmmmmm, pretty much so, yes.

John: but not necessarily.

Tia: no, as I said, pretty much so.

John: excuse my interruption but,  am I correct?

Tia: yeah, there are a few exceptions to the rules.

Nicole: yeah, twin soulmates.

Tia: yeah. Well, triplets.

Russ: twin souls are only one or triplets.

Nicole: sorry, twin souls.

Tia: yeah.

Nicole: that's what I'm asking.

Tia: yes. Twin souls you only have one of and sometimes you don't even recognize them. We're very fortunate that us triplet souls up here recognized each other and it's a very strange thing when you recognize that you're complete, you're whole. The other person is more important than your own well-being and they have the same reaction towards you. When the three of us are altogether in the same space, it's wonderful.

Nicole: right. So what I'm asking is, say I have met my twin soul before?

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: would I have known?

Tia: you may have got a funny feeling about him or her. Sometimes it can be a she. It's like Kiri and myself, and Mark. I mean, two young ladies and a daft Englishman.

Russ: I got you on tape.

Tia: yeah, sure, daft Englishman, daft Englishman. But....

John: oh Mark's going to love this.

Tia: uh-huh. But yeah, it's a feeling that you have inside you. When I first met Mark, my heart went flip-flop. It's sort of like, "he's the one". I didn't know what he was the one for but figured that out later on.

Nicole: yeah, is it possible for a twin soul to go by the wayside and....?

Tia: yeah, it's possible, and it probably has happened and probably will happen.

Nicole: have you read that book 2150 A.D.?

(Ed.note: by Thea Alexander)

Tia: no, I live it.

Nicole: yeah, I know but I just thought you might of read it.

Tia: no I haven't.

Russ: but you read it through Mark?

Tia: yeah, I read through Mark.

Nicole: what do you think of it?

Tia: I think it's a pretty good book. It's a lot of fun, it's a possibility, it's enjoyable, it's a nice piece of light literature.

Nicole: hmm, that's different from what Mark said.

Tia: of course it's different from what Mark said. Mark's an old-fashioned stuck in the mud.

Nicole: I know, I just like to hear Mark's different opinions or Mark and Omal, or Mark and Kiri or Mark and Karra, I like to know. You know what I mean?

Tia: uh-huh, I know what you mean. I like to tease him sometimes. I like to get him really going, but yeah, we do have different opinions. Kiri has very different opinions from Mark. But she's more aware of the fact that we have a recording device. I don't care sometimes and Kiri does care sometimes and then we switch over from time to time.

Nicole: all right then.

Tia: let's move on to the next person.

Nicole: are you sick of me?

Tia: no, I'm not sick of you, I could never be sick of you. You're funny and you talk like Mark does.

Nicole: I like Mark, but I don't talk like him.

Tia: you enunciate more clearly then these other.....

Nicole: that's right, because I know English, I speak it good.

John: okay, I'd kind of like to take off from where Nicole touched on?

Tia: uh-huh.

John: about the five of us, including Mark, your English friend.....

Tia: uh-huh.

John: okay? Now I know that Russ and I have been together in some capacity in a past life....

Tia: uh-huh.

John: for sure, there's no doubt about that but I do believe that all of us here, including Mark, all five of us have been together in a past life....

Tia: uh-huh.

John: and am I correct in that assumption, do you know?

Tia: there is a high probability, yes, a high probability. I can't say one way or the other, but I should say that there is a very high probability.

Russ: now, how does this take into account parallel lifetimes?

Tia: parallel lifetimes, we don't cover because they're splitting off at a particular point.

Russ: but theoretically, there are some lives where we haven't all been together....

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: but there are some where we have definitely been together...

Tia: yeah.

Russ: that's why there's such a high probability.

Tia: that's right.

Russ: in fact it's 100% sure that we've been together.

Tia: well if you factor in parallel lifelines and parallel universes and galaxies and so on, yes, there is that high probability.

Russ: 100% chance.

John: will you explain to me how parallel lifetimes, if it runs on the same principle as parallel lines...

Tia: uh-huh.

John: where does the splitting come in? Because parallel lines don't split, they stay parallel throughout their continuous path.

Tia: uh-huh. Yeah, but they break off at certain points and then run parallel.

John: so you've got a set of parallel lines that will break off.....

Tia: yeah.

John: and run parallel to another set of parallel lines, and then possibly interact again?

Tia: interact? It's kind of like a tree. You look at a tree, and it has branches......

Russ: and roots.

Tia: and roots and so on, and the trunk is the start line right? Right at the ground.

John: yes.

Tia: okay and it goes up and something happens and a branch breaks off and that branch goes up and the trunk carries on growing and then there's another break and it goes off and up and there's all these things occurring that create parallel lives. The splitting off.....

John: that was an excellent analogy, thank you for your clarification on that.

Russ: yeah, it's not in the exact terminology of parallel.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, as far as the mathematical formula for parallel lines holds true.

Tia: yep.

John: I thought Tia did a very good job of describing it to me. I mean for me it was perfect.

Nicole: how do you high macro awareness?

Tia: by learning to understand yourself first and learning to understand yourself is one of those. Why do you behave in certain ways to certain people? Positive or negative?

Russ: people get different vibes.

Tia: that's right. Now learning how to react to those vibes in a positive way is the first step to learning awareness.

Russ: now Tia....

Tia: uh-huh?

Russ: when I was growing up, I always had a problem with emulating those people I was near.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: if I was by somebody who is really hyper, I'd get really hyper and so on, and I mean I would take on those characteristics. Mostly because I was really empathetic.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: a lot of my learning has come about from being my own person.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: and not emulating others that I am around, but maintaining my own self-awareness.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: now is this kind of what Nicole is talking about?

Tia: kind of. Being her own self and not influenced by other peoples. The conversations that she's had that I've listened to seems to come from the fact that she wants to be her own person. Is that correct?

Nicole: I've never been the one who's been influenced. I haven't necessarily been influenced, I've made my mind about situations....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and then gone from there. People put things into my head and I.....

Tia: yeah, react in a particular way.

Nicole: yes.

Tia: uh-huh. But yes, everybody is influenced by everything else, to a lesser or greater extent.

John: now with us, with our group and being with such a strong bunch of people, can't you utilize that as a tool to learn to learn and grow?

Tia: uh-huh, yeah, you learn from each other.

John: about empathy and just camaraderie....

Tia: uh-huh.

John: and using that as a tool, I can see where in some instances it could be detrimental, but I can see the opposite where it could be very beneficial.

Tia: it is a matter of picking out what is beneficial and what is harmful and weaving it together. Everybody has their own particular personalities as I said. Ryan is a silent, thoughtful individual. Nicole is a person of action. Russ is a person of thought, then action. You're a person that is of let's have fun, but let's keep it serious at the same time and all those things together can bring a stronger group. Mark is a person that again can be very serious, but yet also has a very playful nature. But the individual traits is what makes you individuals and also could make a great team.

Nicole: since I have been in this household.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and actually gotten into like high macro awareness...

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and doing these channeling sessions.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: I don't think I'm a bad person......

Tia: no.

Nicole: but I don't think I'm a totally good person because I do have faults.......

Tia: uh-huh, but that's what makes you stronger.

Nicole: so that's why I'd like to find out more about that.

Tia: uh-huh yeah, I have faults. I can get very jealous from time to time, I know that.

Nicole: see, I'm not a jealous person....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and there are things about me I know it's really bad for me, it really is bad for me.

Tia: uh-huh. There are ways of releasing the stress. You used one way last Sunday night? Saturday night, Friday night or whatever night it was. I watched with interest, whilst you and Mark sat down and got a little bit inebriated.

Nicole: yeah, but to be really honest with you....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: I don't like drinking.

Tia: no, it doesn't solve anything but releases some of the tension.

Nicole: yeah, that was unreal. I thought I was in tears about half an hour before Mark suggested, "let's have a drink"....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and I was dancing on the lounge.

Tia: I thought that was funny.

Russ: I thought Nicole was funny.

Nicole: yeah, I was dancing on the lounge. If I felt like that, I'd be bloody gone.

Tia: yeah. It's not the answer, but it is a temporary relief. There are other ways of releasing pent-up energy like that.

Nicole: what I'm trying to say is my main concern is keeping my stress within myself.

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: and not snapping at people.

Tia: well there are ways.....

Nicole: because I mean I then become a disliked person for the wrong reason....

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: because I'm very well-liked and I know a lot of people but I don't want to react like that.

Tia: yes.

Nicole: you know what I mean?

Tia: uh-huh.

Nicole: I'm trying to make myself a better person.

Tia: well what you can always do is say that I'm terribly sorry to the person when you snap at them. Go, "look I'm terribly sorry, it's not directed at you. I have problems, I won't burden you with the problems, I apologize".

Nicole: I want to stop it before it actually happens.

Tia: well, there's....

Nicole: otherwise, I'm going to be walking around with a bloody sign on my head saying, "sorry, I have a problem".

Tia: oh sorry, I thought there was one there. Here is a good way, you focus the energy into something that will help to release the aggression and make you feel better. Because you're on edge because of what is happening, what you do is you find a way of releasing that energy. Whether it's chopping wood, running, walking, myself when I get edgy I do housework.

Nicole: that will keep you busy.

Tia: yeah, especially in this house.

Nicole: yeah, that's what I mean.

Tia: yeah. The most untidiest bunch of individuals I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

Russ: bachelor pad, what do you want?

John: oh, come on, we're not that untidy. I mean we're a real little rough around the edges.

Nicole: I got your hint anyway Tia so thank you.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah, they might get the hint as well.

Nicole: I'm glad to hear it, I must admit.

Tia: thank you.

Nicole: you should be around here more often.

Tia: if I could be I would be, in physical form. That's one of the keys of love there is, the desire.

Nicole: yes, I agree with that.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, let's put on the next person.

John: who might that be?

Tia: wait-and-see.

John: okay, we'll wait.

Nicole: all right, all right, next person.


(Omal gets us all the way over to side two)


Omal: greetings and felicitations.

Russ: greetings Omal.

John: greetings Omal.

Omal: greetings everybody.

Nicole: hi Omal.

Omal: okay, let us get down to business.

Nicole: Omal?

Omal: uh-huh.

Nicole: we were talking about this before, it's been on the news a lot lately, 13% of the mind is used to think? With all your senses and all of that..........

Omal: uh-huh.

Nicole: what's the other 87% for?

Omal: that is for you to discover.

Nicole: no, I want to be told something.

Omal: hmmmm, it is for what is to come later. It is the evolutionary step that will occur. It is many things, it is not just for one function. To sit here and to list what it would be for would take quite a time.

Russ: let me try something. Omal, how much of your brain do you use out of curiosity?

Omal: about 80%.

Russ: okay, there you go.

John: Omar, may I interject? With us going from a third dimensional to a sixth dimensional shift, will that also increase......

Omal: yes, it will increase the amount of.....

John: our brain capacity?

Omal: it will increase the amount that is used.

John: can you give us a general percentage or is that an individual thing?

Omal: it is an individual thing, but an average would be about 30% to start off with.

John: that's a lot.

Russ: I'm glad they put you in charge.

Omal: from my own speaking, yes.

Russ: okay.......

John: excuse me....

Russ: no, go ahead, help yourself.

John: just one second. What brain capacity do the Sirians use?

Russ: prior to their sixth dimensional change?

John: well yeah, I'm curious. Is there a relation between the Sirian change and the earth change?

Omal: they used about 15 to 20%

John: similar to us?

Omal: yes.

John: and what do they utilize now?

Omal: on average, about 50%.

John: okay, so there is some similarities between the Sirian evolution and the human evolution on earth?

Omal: yes.

Russ: now is our lower percentages due to the advent of television?

Omal: not exactly. That in actual fact has increased the capacity a little bit by the access of information on a larger scale to a larger audience.

Russ: oh, okay.

Omal: but it is a very minute increase on average.

John: so, would it be safe to say that we could as humans in the third dimension increase our brain capacity to 20%.

Omal: that is possible but not likely.

John: what would be more realistic percentage?

Omal: for an average human in their life, the possibility for 15% is there. 16 or 17% if they really push it.

John: is this shift to the sixth dimension in our grasp here, in our little group we've got here in Lake Tahoe?

Omal: there is that possibility.

John: is there also a possibility that we might have to live another lifetime to experience that?

Omal: there is that possibility also, nothing is set in stone.

Russ: all right, working on.......if I can diverge here from everything, brains and all......going on to future plans.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and looking at a few things that are going to be triggering a lot of this stuff and one of the things that really strikes me is this coming up election.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now from what I understand from what we talked about, it doesn't matter who's going to be elected, Republican or Democrat......

Omal: yes.

Russ: due to the fact that the change is going to come.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but now with our participation in any of the politics involved in that make any difference whatsoever?

Omal: there are many possibilities. There is an increase in possible hostile action if you intervene in certain ways and a decrease if you intervene in other ways.

Russ: hmm, well how about in just voting?

Omal: in voting yes, that would be possible and the outcome is not set in stone. Your votes may or may not benefit. Why, are you having a change of heart on being a Democrat?

Russ: well, you know what? I'm back and forth on that right now. There are certain portions of it I really like and certain portions I'm not too fond of right now.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and so I'm wavering. Like right now there's a gentleman named Alan Keyes, who is running for the Republicans, black gentleman.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: eloquent speaker with a lot of potential I feel, but I don't think he is going to have any significance to this election whatsoever.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but a lot of what he has to say is a lot of what I think.

Omal: yes.

Russ: so I'm not sure how it's going to go, but I'm watching it very closely....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: due to the fact that it ties in closely with our future.

Omal: yes. But all the individuals that have aspirations to be president are factored into our calculations.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: the main primary three......or four, actually is........

John: is Forbes in there? Excuse me, is Forbes a factor?

Omal: Forbes is a factor, but he is low on the factor level. Looking at the factors, we have the current gentleman in office....

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: and her husband.

(everyone laughs at that)

John: I like the way you termed that.

Omal: we also have Perot. 

John: yeah.

Omal: we have Dole.

John: okay.

Omal: and we have the other gentleman involved.

John: what, Buchanan?

Omal: Buchanan being one of them, Mr. Forbes being another one.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: but the more popular they are, the higher their probability of being elected. The more well-known they are, again increases the possibility of being elected. So it is a very shaky issue to say who is going to be in power and who is going to affect in a positive or negative way the upcoming events.

Russ: well, regarding that, how did the paper get on Hillary's desk?

Omal: you'd have to ask our specialized analyst on....

Russ: the Whitewater affair?

Omal: yes.

John: is that Tia? I guess she could find out.

Omal: yes, she could find out. Our computer whiz child.

John: do you perceive the United States going to a three-party system as opposed to a two-party political system?

Omal: there is that possibility and it is a high possibility.

John: and do you see negative or positive implications from that?

Omal: there is both, positive and negative. There are political alliances that can be created, again for a positive or negative influence.

Russ: hmm.

John: so if Perot and Forbes got together and ran on the same ticket as independents....

Omal: uh-huh.

John: they could shake up American society as we know it and win.

Omal: correct, yes.

John: they do have the money and the power to do that.

Omal: correct.

John: without the political background.

Omal: however, I do not see those two running together on the same ticket. They're too much independent, rugged individuals that would be more at odds than at evens with each other. However, if they did and overcame their differences, they would be a formidable and mighty team that would be unstoppable. So you see what I'm saying?

John: I understand what you're saying and so right now it looks like the Independents are going to take away from one party or the other.

Omal: uh-huh.

John: in our last election, Perot made the difference where Clinton actually got elected.

Omal: yes.

John: now could Forbes and Perot do the same thing on this election?

Omal: certainly, most certainly.

John: and do you perceive any benefit whether the American people go Democratic, Independent, or Republican?

Omal: I see many benefits and many negative factors. It is a subject that you have to look at very carefully and think about very carefully because what will happen depends on who is in office. Scenario A is most likely with a Republican ticket, scenario B is most likely with an Independent and scenario C is most likely with a Clinton ticket.

John: okay...

Omal: but it is very iffy. There are factors of A, B, and C in all of them.

John: correct. Now I'm 39 years of age but never voted, I'm not politically active. Is there any reason for me to become politically active? Is my one vote actually going to make a difference in this country?

Omal: all votes make a difference. Whether or not you should become politically active is your own decision. As has been pointed out, by me saying do this or do that is interference. By suggesting, influences you, in turn it helps you. Whether or not you vote is your own decision. Whether or not you head in a particular goal is your own decision.

Nicole: can I ask a question?

Omal: certainly.

Nicole: how do you get around not voting?

John: it's your right in this country.

Nicole: oh it is?

John: yeah, you have the choice to vote or not to vote, and I've chosen not to all my adult life.

Nicole: I'm sorry, it's not the same as us, we have to vote.

John: no, it's one thing that makes America, America. You have that freedom where it's an individual decision.

Nicole: oh. Did you find it about those currencies, that euro grade currency?

Omal: no, we have not. We have been busy with other matters. I will ask somebody to investigate for you.

Nicole: okay.

Omal: but it is necessary for people to be assigned research. After all, I am the base commander.

Nicole: oh.

Omal: young man, do you have a question?

Ryan: at the moment I don't.

Omal: okay.

Ryan: I'm still thinking.

Omal: that is good, never stop thinking. Okay Russ......

Russ: yes.

Omal: back to your question.

Russ: oh, mine was answered.

Omal: yes, do you have any more?

Russ: oh yeah, I've got one about our local cinema.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: watching the history of cinema, I've always noticed that you'll get two movies that show really good versions of aliens and other races, and then you get one that's really gnarly. Like "Close Encounters" and "ET" was countered by this TV show called "V". Really popular and showed the earth being taken over.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: then you had "Abyss" and "Cocoon" which all about friendly and happy aliens and then you have "Fire in the Sky".........

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: which is about some dude being taken up and just getting tortured practically. And now you've got alien workshop which is a clothing company other good things about aliens coming up and now you've got this new movie coming out called "ID Four"....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: don't know if you've seen anything on it yet.

Omal: no, not yet.

Russ: but. It's all see the preview of this shadow of this huge ship coming over Washington and then you see the White House being blown up. And the thing is saying. "on July 3 they attack, on Independence Day we fight back".

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and it's like, okay. So it's like we're going to see coming up here real quick another major change but why is this always happening?

Omal: it is because your planet is preoccupied with internal problems. They use the popular medium of the times to work out its problems and to look at itself.

Russ: oh, so not looking at this as to escape their problems, it's to focus on something other than.

Omal: that is correct.

Russ: I see.

Omal: it is internal, a reflection of one society as when it looks outside to look back in to analyze itself.

Russ: oh, okay, I see. You're dealing with this on it on a subtler level than I was seeing.

Omal: yes.

Russ: oh, okay, I see. Thank you. Omal.

Omal: you're welcome.

John: can you clarify something for me?

Omal: certainly.

John: we've discussed this before, and I know your memory is exceptional, but if there is a......I hate to use the word alien, but for ease of this conversation.......

Omal: uh-huh.

John: if there is a hostile alien inervasion...

Omal: invasion.

John: invasion, on this planet, you would interact? You would come to our assistance.....

Omal: yes.

John: am I correct?

Omal: yes.

John: now, any problems that we create on our own, whether economical or political....

Omal: we would not.

John: you cannot interact....

Omal: correct.

John: and will not interact.

Omal: correct.

John: except the way you do through your channeling sessions?

Omal: correct. If your planet was invaded, which I do not see happening for quite a while yet or at all, we have the ability to to land platoons within half an hour. We have the ability to call in more personnel within six hours. We can muster a Air Force within five minutes over your planet of front line fighter aircraft or UFOs as you would call them. Within two hours we can muster more. Within a week we can double the amount of personnel on your planet and quadruple the amount of air cover.

John: why is your concern for us so strong for you?

Omal: it is not us, it is the Sirians, an oath that they gave a long time ago.

John: and you're bound to this oath?

Omal: they are bound to the oath. We are bound to them by an oath that we gave them. So indirectly, yes, we are bound.

Russ: hmm, thank you for clearing........

John: yeah, that was an excellent clarification, thank you.

Omal: yes, but we cannot interfere in internal struggles. But an external invasion force, we will help defend your planet because of the oath that the Sirians gave.

Russ: any external hostile force is already well aware of you and the amount of help you could muster.

Omal: correct, so we are a deterrent.

Russ: effectively eliminating that threat.

John: right, exactly. We're on our own. The only problems we create.......




(Omal continues about the defense of our planet)

Omal: so then you would only see, once you become a full space race, the end results.

John: which would be like shooting stars to our perception?

Omal: what would be left would be shooting stars, yes.

John: yes, thank you.

Omal: but once you get into space and out past a certain area, you would see the remains of the battle, you would find debris floating around.

John: has our Hubble telescope been perceiving your activity and part of the other brotherhood activity?

Omal: little technical glitches have been noted with your Hubble telescope from time to time. Things that do not quite make sense. Some of your astronauts have had contact with mischievous astral travelers. I believe.

John: okay, so we have had touched on having encounters with you?

Omal: yes, and with your fellow mankind in an astral travel form.

Russ: Mark sat on the Hubble telescope a few times.

John: oh okay, I wasn't aware of that. Is there any threat with that, can you see any detrimental threat?

Omal: no not really, it is a passive device that receives instead of transmits on a wide band and it does not use a subspace for want of a better explanation that you would understand to transmit great distances. It uses a standard waveform which is transmitted over a great distance, which takes a great time to cover that distance. Which is why the search for extraterrestrial life is having such a difficult problem of receiving.

John: but at our stage in development, we should be at that primitive stage. Am I correct?

Omal: it is natural evolution.

John: and we are going through a natural, evolutionary stage?

Omal: correct. After being tampered with thousands, or hundreds of thousands of years ago, you are evolving as you should. Okay, next question.

Russ: Ryan?

Ryan: no.

Omal: Nicole?

Nicole: no Omal.

Omal: okay....

Russ: farewell Omal.

John: thank you Omal.

Nicole: bye.

Omal: live long, prosper, and I'll be back. Omal to enterprise, one to beam up.


(Tia jumps back one to make her first speaker hand-off) 

Nicole: Kiri?

Kiri: no. Uh-huh.

John: hello.

Tia: I'm not hard of hearing you know.

John: oh, you're not?

Tia: no. You don't have to go hello!!!!!

John: well I was excited to see you, I missed you last week.

Nicole: you did not, it's Tia.

John: oh, you're back again.

Tia: uh-huh, just for a few seconds.

John: I got cornfused, I thought it was Kiri.

Tia: okay , well I'm putting on the next person. Bye.

Ryan: bye.

John: see you.


(Karra comes on to work with us next)


Karra: hmm, hello.

Russ: hello.

Karra: hello, hello.

Nicole: Kiri?

Karra: Kiri?

Nicole: Kiri.

Karra: Kiri is my sister, she tends to be.....

Nicole: I meant Karra.

Karra: she tends to be more louder and rambunctious than I. I am very sedate and well behaved.

John: that's not what I heard, or the guy's just telling stories about you.

Karra: he's just telling stories about me, I am very well behaved.

John: so how's things on Hades Base?

Karra: oh, it is fine, everything is going according to plan. We are very active at the moment with internal domestic things that are occurring this weekend.

Russ: hello my love.

Karra: hello.

Nicole: okay.

John: would it be similar to political things on our level?

Karra: oh no, no, no. We just have a union that is occurring this weekend, or the final part of a union. I am pretty busy and distracted with getting things organized for the union that occurs this Sunday.

John: and can you explain anything of the details to us? I'm curious.

Karra: oh, certainly, yes. We are having a wedding.

John: oh, excellent.

Karra: I believe it is nuptials as you call it.

John: yes, I understand.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: so there's much preparation being done.

Karra: yes.

John: is the whole base be involved?

Karra: no, there is 200 selected individuals that will be attending.

John: and what kind of ceremony do you do?

Karra: it is a Sirian ceremony. Lots of flowers, lots of singing, lots of fun. Drinking, of course.

John: do you use the hallucinogenic flowers?

Karra: no.

John: no, you just use them.......

Karra: there are some people that will participate with those. Those will be made available, but for the actual ceremony, there will be none available.

John: so you use the flowers for the same way we would do it on earth?

Karra: yes, in the ways you use alcohol. It is a lubrication.

John: but I mean the non-hallucinogenic flowers, you use them for aesthetic properties.......

Karra: correct, yes.

John: just add to the celebration of the joining.

Karra: yes, for the bright, lovely color. Okay, questions.

Russ: when is the wedding?

Karra: it starts at 2 o'clock of your time on Sunday. I know. Don't worry, we will be recording it all.

Russ: yeah, okay.

Karra: and then they leave on Monday afternoon.

Russ: I understand.

Nicole: who's getting married?

John: are they going back to Sirius?

Karra: yes.

Russ: my father-in-law.

Nicole: oh.

Russ: mine and Mark's father-in-law.

Karra: uh-huh.

Nicole: oh, Kiri's also?

Karra: that's correct.

Russ: dad. I still have never been able to call him that yet and I doubt I ever will.

Karra: well, don't worry.

Russ: especially now.

(Russ laughs at that one)

Karra: well, Mark still calls him Sir.

Russ: yeah.

Nicole: Karra?

Karra: yes?

Nicole: do you know much about psychology?

Karra: a little. Try me.

Nicole: can you give me some advice on how would a mother and daughter have a breakup in a relationship? Cursing each other, promising that they'll never ever talk to each other again, how would you unite them?

Karra: normally, there is one thing that will pull a family together and that is trauma within the family.

Nicole: that's already happened after the fall?

Karra: uh-huh, and the whole entire family rallied together did it not?

Nicole: yeah.

Karra: and the same thing will pull it together. For various families it is various different types of trauma. A house fire will pull a family together.

John: now is there some positive traumas......I mean a house fire would naturally bring a family together but is there a positive type of trauma that can be used to stimulate?

Karra: yes, a birth will also help stimulate. Somebody giving birth to a child will help to pull a family together.

Russ: now sometimes, though it's not seen as positive, a death would be a positive trauma.

Karra: yes, again, that would pull a family together.

Russ: because for one thing, a death for us would be a positive thing because you're moving on to the next life. And while most folks in the family would see that as a negative thing, it does bring people together.

Karra: certainly. See, there are many possibilities.

Russ: makes sense. Now, with the coming problems that we see in our world, is that going to bring the world together?

Karra: in theory yes, but I am not a mass psychologist.

Russ: so theoretically then, with the coming collapse.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: what you'll see is maybe not so much maybe the world coming together, since we're only dealing in theory, but you would see people who know each other....

Karra: coming together, yes.

Russ: coming together a lot closer.

Karra: uh-huh, yes.

John: and would it be safe to say that it would be worldwide speaking? Wouldn't it be more of a equalizing of the third world countries and your capitalistic countries becoming more equal economically and socially?

Karra: I really don't know, I'm more concerned with the spiritual and healing side of things.

John: aren't they all related? Isn't spirituality.......?

Karra: yes, but I can't be aware of all things. Tia doesn't deal so much with the spirituality, but of more the fiscal and economic and social things. I deal with the more medical, spiritual side of things.

John: but am I correct in assuming that they're both interrelated?

Karra: I would assume so too, but don't hold up what I say on it as gospel.

Russ: right.

Karra: I really can't say without sitting down and discussing it with Tia and Tia unfortunately can be very closed mouth about it from time to time.

Russ: uh-huh.

Nicole: if a person is alive and then they come back, they learn very much in that life, and they come back and they learn from their last life lessons?

Karra: uh-huh.

Nicole: a better person?

Karra: yes.

Nicole: right, well can you explain to me why this world is getting worse in every aspect?

Karra: because people aren't learning and there are new people coming all the time. I believe you've met Skip?

Nicole: yes.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yes, Skip is a new person on your planet. This is his first time on your planet.

Nicole: oh really?

Karra: so therefore he is confused and baffled by what is going on. He is at a loss sometimes, he feels out of place.

Nicole: I've noticed he is a very inquisitive person....

Karra: uh-huh.

Nicole: very curious.

Karra: very curious. He seeks information all the time and he has incredible potential on both the spiritual, metaphysical, and the physical world.

Russ: hmm. Now, folks who aren't learning, it's not that they've not forgotten what they've learned prior to this life, is that they choose to forget, correct?

Karra: to a certain extent, yes. It is sometimes that things are overlooked in the period of reviewing, things overlooked as being trivial, but they're not trivial.

Russ: well for example, somebody who lives a life as a very poor, poverty-stricken person.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: in their time of review between lives, they'll look at their life and go, "well, I want to have money".

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and they come back and do a life in those circumstances which brings them that and they learn from that lesson.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: but now, in between the next life, are we looking then at people who say, "well I liked having money, let's do that again" kind of thing?

Karra: hmm yes, there are many different possibilities. There is for example, you can have a gentleman that is born into money that has a total disgust with money, that finds it a useful tool, that sees it as just that.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: or somebody that is hard-working and works their way up to money. Or somebody that has money but just fritters it away and does not comprehend it. There are many possibilities.

Russ: all right. Now, most of the people, in fact all the people who are now coming to this planet, the new people for the experiences of third dimension and for those of us who have returned, we're all preparing for what is about to happen.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and for us who are returning, it's a great time of change. For those who are new, they're looking at this as a time where they'll be going on and working on the world afterwards......

Karra: yes.

Russ: to their next lives as to improve third dimensional earth, or at least learn the lessons from it.

Karra: correct.

Russ: but us, we're looking to just go ahead and move on from here.

Karra: uh-huh. Take Skip for example. With all his engineering ability, he is very little access to it. But as I said last week, maybe he'll have access to it in his next life.

Russ: hmm.

Karra: maybe he will be the next Tesla.

Russ: yes. And he was talking about is space.....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: as a really important goal.

Karra: yes.

John: so the interaction between old souls on the planet....

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and a new soul like Skip in our group is very beneficial?

Karra: yes. Skip is an old soul, but he is new on your planet. He is like the new person moving into the apartment across the street from you. They're new, but they've been around for a while.

Nicole: where do souls come from other than earth?

Karra: oh many different places, many...

Nicole: on different planets?

Karra: yes.

Nicole: they don't come from animals?

Karra: yes, there are some animals, especially sentient animals that evolve up.

Nicole: so I could've been a dolphin in another life or something?

Karra: correct, yes.

Russ: so it's true because then you have Sirians....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: and people from Alpha Centauri, people from third dimensional worlds we don't even know about who have no human characteristics at all but Mark has seen on many times and interacted on many occasions and don't look anything like us.

Karra: all sorts of things.

Russ: all sorts of things.

Karra: anyway, I will wrap up my little part.

Russ: okay.

John: can ask one more question?

Karra: certainly.

John: okay I heard somewhere, and I can't remember where, but I'm trying to put this all in perspective, but the way it was proposed to me was that we live 10,000 lifetimes on a planet and then progress to another planet to live another 10,000 lifetimes and it's a big circle. Is that analogy........?

Karra: yes it is true to a certain extent but sometimes.....

John: okay, so there is some accuracy?

Karra: sometimes it can be a higher number, sometimes it can be a lesser number. It all depends on individual.

Russ: and the world. I mean sometimes the world won't last 10,000 lifetimes.

Karra: correct. Okay....

Russ: like Sirius. Farewell.

Nicole: bye Karra.

Karra: bye.


(Tia comes back but in a bit of an urgent state)


Tia: okay, I got to be quick because I've got to go to the bathroom. I'll just put on the next person.

Russ: okay.

Tia: okay, see you in a few.

John: okay.

Tia: bye.

John: bye.

Nicole: no problem.

Russ: bye.


(Kiri comes on to wrap things up)


Russ: what's up baby?

Kiri: yo. Now that's very strange. I was looking at the monitor and Mark didn't have a bladder problem, he now has a bladder problem. I wonder how she did that?

John: I don't know.

Russ: sympathetic.

Kiri: well, she comes bouncing in and she's got to be quick and everything and she says she's got to get to the bathroom and I'm looking at the monitor and all of a sudden his bladder pressure goes from about 7% up to about 80%.

Russ: do you need to go take care of some problems?

Kiri: yes, I'll take care of both problems, him and Tia.

Russ: I'll pause this.

Kiri: but I would answer questions first, or a question.

Nicole: Kiri?

Kiri: uh-huh?

Nicole: you know the pyramids?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: how did they get those big stones?

Kiri: what Tia does. Not astral travel, but her other habit or hobby.

Nicole: PK?

Kiri: uh-huh, a group of minds working together.

Nicole: you reckon?

Russ: for sure.

Kiri: reckon? I know so. If Tia could lift up approximately a ton and a half.........yeah, she's been working out.....her objective by the end of your century is to be able to lift two tons.

Russ: she could barely lift all three children before.

Kiri: yeah, I know.

Russ: a ton and a half?

Kiri: uh-huh, she's been working out.

Russ: my truck doesn't weigh a ton and a half.

Kiri: yeah, so she's working out. I don't think she'll be able to get up over maybe 2 1/2 tons, if she's lucky, three. And Tia goes, "be able to lift three tons, that would be wonderful".

Nicole: so it was Egyptians using PK?

Kiri: yeah, well, Sirians using PK.

Nicole: Sirians?

Kiri: survivors from Atlantis.

Nicole: I'm talking about building pyramids.

Kiri: that's what I'm talking about.

Russ: that's we're talking about.

Nicole: Sirians?

Kiri: yeah, survivors from Atlantis.

Russ: Atlantis was settled by Syrians.

Kiri: seven races.

Russ: seven races.

Kiri: uh-huh. And the survivors of those races.....

Nicole: has anyone on earth come up with this theory?

Russ: we have.

Kiri: there are few others.

Nicole: yeah, but like professional people?

Kiri: yeah. In fact, there is a prime example in Florida of a gentleman that used PK.

Russ: yeah, to build the coral castle. Big, huge blocks of coral cut out of the coral keys that he lived at and he built this huge, giant house by himself. And people came by to check this thing out and he had put a crane up over a block that was cut out with a chain going under the rock to show them that, well yeah, he actually cut these things out by hand and lifted them out by hand, right?

Nicole: hmm.

Russ: but then they went away going. "wait a minute, how did he get the chain under the block?" But what he used was his mind to lift it up, put the chain underneath and dropped the block back down and showed them, "well, here it is, see?"

Nicole: yeah, wow.

Russ: it was a long time ago I saw this too.

Kiri: yeah.

Nicole: he would need a lot of mind power.

Kiri: uh-huh, he didn't live very long. Didn't live.......what's it, he died in his 40s?

Russ: well his wife died. He built it for his wife and she died.

Kiri: no, he built it for somebody that he wanted to be his wife. I think it was his Esmeralda or something? Yeah.

Russ: that's right. Hey by the way, last week we were working on eight inches of our measurement equals three units of yours.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: so that means......what's a foot? 12 add four more inches......about four units?

Kiri: no.

Russ: 4 1/2?

John: oh we could break it down on a calculator.

Kiri: it's close, about 4 1/2.

Russ: how does it figure into the Great Pyramid?

Kiri: it doesn't.

Russ: it doesn't?

Kiri: no, our measurements have been changed many times.

Russ: oh, in other words, it's the old Sirian measurements system....

Kiri: that's right.

Russ: that the pyramid is built on.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: even older than the metric system?

Kiri: much older.

Russ: the Great Pyramid is built on the process of Pi.

Kiri: yeah, Pi is the universal....

Russ: 3.12......

Kiri: 3.142785.....whatever.

Russ: so Pi being universal......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: does that mean that's where it started from, and you guys advanced it up from that point from Pi?

Kiri: yeah, for our periods, yes.

Russ: oh, okay.

Russ: so you base it on three......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's a weird system of math.

Kiri: is it? It works.

John: it's different.

Kiri: it uses one's mental abilities better.

Nicole: yeah, true.

Kiri: yeah, well,'s based basically on geometry. By working on decimals of three, you can manipulate and change it to the various units that you need.
Russ: it probably helps in space travel.

Kiri: yeah, it's useful if you're plotting a course by using reference points. Three reference points will give you a fourth reference point by their angles.

Russ: oh right, yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh. Whereas in space you need 1, 2, 3, 4......6 points if you're doing it in three dimensional space, you need six points to give you a seventh point.

Russ: that's from Stargate.

Kiri: yeah, but it's standard for space travel.

Russ: oh it is?.

Kiri: yeah.

John: and how about in sixth dimensional travel? Does it change?

Kiri: sixth dimensional? No.

John: so you use six points to get the seventh point....

Kiri: correct.

John: correct?

Russ: what about when you're going from sixth to third?

Kiri: ahhh, that's where it becomes tricky, real tricky.

Russ: well, how you do that one?

Kiri: you do the rotation from your point of origin, right?

Russ: which is Hades Base let's say.

Kiri: yeah, well, you go out to a safe area where you are not affected too much by the gravitational pull of the planet......

Russ: okay.

Kiri: you make your jump and then you calibrate.

Russ: to the point of your origin.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: then you figure out where you are then in third dimension......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: from the point of your.....

Kiri: your origin.....your point of origination in sixth dimension. I'm not a navigator.

Russ: it would leave me with a headache. I guess that's why the computers do it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I see, okay. Anybody else? So how do you like your dad now that he's younger than you are?

Kiri: I still look younger, just. Well maybe, in my opinion.

Russ: I haven't seen him yet so I don't know.

Kiri: no, it's good that he looks like a 20-year-old again.

Nicole: he rejuvenated his body?

Kiri: yeah.

Nicole: why, because he's got a new girlfriend?

Kiri: part of the reason was to please her, part of the reason was that he was starting to get aches and pains in his bones and....

Nicole: oh really?

Kiri: he was starting to get baggy as he put it around the edges on his skin.

Russ: his eyes were looking really old.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: I mean his eyes itself, but around his eyes.

Kiri: yeah. Well, he was also apparently, although he kept it very quiet, was starting to lose sight in one of his eyes.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: yeah. So it was necessary for him to have a rejuvenation and grandmama arrives on Friday night.....

Russ: hmmm.

Kiri: she's only staying for a few days, she doesn't want to be away from her monastery too long.

Russ: she'll be here for the wedding?

Kiri: yeah, she'll be here to have it.

Russ: cool.

Kiri: it's going to be the first time that we've had all the current living generations together.

Russ: is this in fact his first rejuvenation?

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: ahh cool.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, but apparently when he arrived he looked at me and he goes, he made a comment and I go, "but I've looked like this way for the past 20 years". And he goes, "I haven't noticed". And I looked at him, and it's sort of like, "he's lying". So I asked him if he was having eye problems and he went, "no". And I put my hands on my hips and I went. "Dad, you can't tell me that, you were lying. You were having eye problems, weren't you?" And he avoided the subject, so I know that he was.

Russ: hmm. Well, the thing is now he can bounce around like a teenager and his teenage bride.

Kiri: yeah, teenage? She's not a teenager.

Russ: well I know, she's a nice, mature teenager.

Kiri: yes, very agile, flexible teenager.

(the guys laugh at that)

Russ: I look older than she does, okay? I mean, come on.

Kiri: yes, but she's older than you are.

Russ: I know.

Kiri: uh-huh. I think she's about what? 36 of your years, 37?

Russ: well you're older than I am and I look older than you do.

Kiri: it's great, isn't it?

Russ: I love it.

Kiri: when I'm old and gray, your physical body down there will be dust.

Russ: yeah, but my new body will probably be looking up with you at that point.

Kiri: oh yeah?

Russ: yeah. I'll be calling you grandma.

Kiri: no, you won't. You'll remember who I am.

Nicole: you get drunk?

Kiri: a little tipsy, a little tipsy.

Nicole: oh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: I want to go up there.

Kiri: uh-huh, I'll introduce you to Treene. She's fun.

Nicole: I want to try something first after I travel there, I want to go straight to the bar.

Russ: well Treene is the one who is looking for you.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: who?

Russ: bartender at the corner bar, she's the one who's looking for you.

Kiri: yeah, she does everybody or almost everybody.

Nicole: is it a she?

Kiri: yes

Nicole: you know I'm trying to astral travel?

Kiri: yeah, I heard all about it from Tia and Mark. But we're getting away on coercion.

Nicole: but you can't really help me?

Kiri: no, I'm a coercer mainly. I can manipulate people with my mind.

Nicole: can you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: can you manipulate me?

Kiri: what I have in mind, you wouldn't enjoy.

Nicole: oh really?

Kiri: yeah, you're not into that sort of thing.

Nicole: what sort of thing?

Russ: Kiri, question for you?

Kiri: yes?

(Nicole starts laughing)

Russ: the martial law will basically eliminate all our constitutional rights....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: right? But now our rural and small-town life won't be too drastically affected?

Kiri: no, no.

Russ: okay. But at that point we're our own law, right?

Kiri: yes.

Russ: okay, we take our own precautions at that point.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm.

Kiri: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to tease you like that.

Nicole: that's okay.

Russ: Kiri?

Kiri: yes?

Russ: I'm thinking that it might be handy to start a home business coming up here.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: to eliminate our need for other outside employment.

(Nicole starts to chuckle)

Nicole: eliminate me.

Kiri: well, I can design lingerie, I can......oh, I've got to design a wedding gown for Carrie. I'm going to draw it....for Carrie......okay.

John: Are we going to talk to Carrie next week?

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: Mark said that might be on the schedule.....

Kiri: yes, yes, I want to talk to her.

John: we might fit her in.

Kiri: okay, any more questions? Engineering, coercive, clothing designs, swimsuits?

John: well, I've got something that's been pressing on my mind.

Kiri: that shouldn't be too much.

John: well, why do boars have tits?

Kiri: so that you can ask questions like that.

John: thank you very much, great answer.

Russ: aren't there young boars that need to get fed? It makes sense to me, they're like pigs, right? Well pigs have young that suck on their tits, right? Well that's what I'd have them for, right?

Kiri: it's a hangover from thousands of years ago. It's also a gene necessity that when you're in embryonic stage or fetus stage, it's either maybe you're going to be male, maybe you're going to be female and it's a hangover from that.

Russ: oh.

John: okay, so there is a viable reason.....

Kiri: yeah.

John: why males do have breasts different from female breasts.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: but even though they're nonfunctional.

Kiri: okay, I'm out of here.

Russ: boys, we shall depart.

John: yes.

Kiri: see you dudes.

Russ: later dear.

John: yeah, see you around babe.

Ryan: see you.


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