21rst CENTURY ATLANTIS and the 100,000-

Channeled (07/05/1995)

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Archivist Notes: The channeling session chosen for February is a special one for anybody who has studied the history of Atlantis. I have spent much of my adult life fascinated by the subject and soaking up everything both fictional and non-fictional to ask questions to those who channeled at our sessions. This was one where the answers brought up a lot of information that triggered a number of memories for me and perhaps for others as well of a life back then. In it, Korton reveals the reason why Atlantis was colonized with all its hope and promise while giving us some understanding of why that dream died. Lessons learned, now it is all about the future and living the Atlantean dream in the 21rst century. On Hades Base, that dream is already taking place and the quest of the Sirians on the base to bring about more children operant in all five psychic skills is the main topic of side one. Conversations with Ashtar and Korton involve a discussion on genetics where a plan to create a paradise on Earth that Korton brings up is imprinted in our DNA. That plan is unfolding before our very eyes and to know where the plan will possibly lead, side two provides the answer as Omal explains the hundred thousand individuals that will make up the original gene pool of an ascended Earth. While Omal has explained previously that it would take 144,000 individuals in a grand meta-concert to affect the planetary consciousness, there would be 100,000 who would be the inhabitants of an ascended Earth that would carry on the new race. Next, Karra challenges me back when this took place in 1995 to soak up information of anything and everything. I followed her edict for the next twenty years to where we eventually ended up releasing these channeling sessions covering a multitude of subjects. Alana is the last guest speaker and we find out from her a secret about dolphins few would know unless they spoke their language. That is just the highlights of a channeling session that truly stands out for having almost too much information to take in at one time. The only downside is a background radio bleeding through that had to be taken out as much as possible. So, like last month, it isn't as clear as we would like, and hope the clarity of knowledge is worth the lack of clarity in the sound. Now, onto a more in-depth summary.

   The session starts out like any normal channeling session as Tia assists us with a problem we were having with some of the cats in the neighborhood. One chose our basement to have her kittens and so she spoke to one of our alpha males to pass the word around that the mother cat needed protecting. We would hear the cat she spoke to fulfilling her request later in the recording. It's at that point the tone of the session changes as Ashtar takes things in a much more serious direction. He helps us understand better the dark crystal of Sedona we had discussed with Korton previously in our October podcast. It is a far more evil influence than we had heard about then. He had also stopped by the apartment of Kiri, Tia, and Mark the night before to speak to Leonedies. The conversation the two of them had was very much about the evolution of two different races on two different dimensions. They discussed engendering a Guardian race for the future once mankind had ascended to act as teachers and guides. Korton follows Ashtar with a dissertation that could be called Atlantis 101. It was this session that revealed a plan put in place before Atlantis was even colonized that has the possibility of coming to fruition if everything works out as planned. He ends his time with confirmation all things in creation have an inner music. Tuning into the music is a link to whatever it is that is your focus, even yourself. Kiri finishes up the side with a Sirus-shattering revelation that she is the keeper of the archives of Sirius, or as she has referred to it later sessions, the librarian of Sirius. It is an honorary title that would let her present the Chronicles of Sirius we posted in our first year of podcasts. After that, we switch topics to a visit planned by her future mother-in-law who would be coming to Hades Base in preparation for her marriage to Kiri and Karra's father, the president of Sirius. For the rest of the side, we discuss the Guardian race Ashtar brought up since it is so personal to us as it involves the children of her, Karra, Tia, Mark, and me. She also covers the history of Sirius when it comes to their efforts to achieve super operants. For thousands of years, Sirius had laws that focused on how many mental abilities a person had in their efforts to increase the number throughout the population. The tape ends with her finishing up her history lesson.

   Side two gets going with an immediate hand-off to Omal as Kiri departs the channeling field. Yet to be heard in the archives is Omal breaking into song but this wasn't just any session, Omal was just keeping the mood light before we got into the serious topics to discuss. One of those topics was picking up from where Ashtar and Korton left off with a future ascended human race on a higher dimensional Earth. Now is when we learn the initial number of humans on that new world would be 100,000 and it would be those who would be the original gene pool from which a new race would begin. From thousands of years into the future from hundreds of thousands of years back in the past we see the plan laid out with all the necessary pieces added one by one. Omal reminds me of my part of the plan as a geneticist in Atlantis that forms a connection to our present-day when once again all five of us from back then can come together to take part in its next phase. Kiri, Karra, Tia, Mark, and I are a soul group that time seems to keep pulling us back together no matter the dimensional difference which is something Karra would confirm when she spoke next. Before that would happen, Omal defines Sananda consciousness or Christ consciousness and what elements are in play. It's a daunting list but ascension would be the next step from achieving that state it would seem. Back in Sedona Arizona Omal and Korton used to channel through another person names Roger Pinion when I met them. We discuss the crutch of alcohol Roger needed for Omal to come through which would make it more of a conscious channeling than a total trance channeler like Mark. We're forever in Roger's debt for bringing us together to continue our part of the plan. We finish with a look at what factor or factors would bring about a collapse of society as we know it and thankfully it is still going strong despite the challenges it faces at this point in history. Karra takes Omal's place and after confirming that Kiri is definitely Karra's sister by the same parents, we get a chance to joke around a bit as she borrows some of Mark's knowledge of the Celtic language to riff some of it as we discuss the movie Highlander. In regards to the soul group she and I were in with Kiri, Tia, and Mark, she explains that there has been a lot of roles all of us had played in our various incarnations, exchanging different family members to each other over the hundreds of thousands of years we kept meeting. Having it all laid out by someone is takes a bit to absorb even though it is a similar story of all incarnated beings. As she discusses next how unloving thoughts are like an open wound, one can't help to wonder at the negative emotions over an election creating permanent scarring of the soul. We get done with her time by her challenging me twenty-five years ago to learn what I had to so that I could be who I am today, a happy student of the ascension process fulfilling my part of the plan in the best way possible. Finally, Alana is our last guest speaker who comes by and we discover a shocking fact about dolphins that came out of left field. Dolphins forgive a lot, pretty much all of the time. That just leaves Kiri to wrap up the few minutes of tape left to let us know her new summer designs were out. This was a channeling session that would be hard to match for revelations about what life is all about in two dimensions.

The information below is the list of children and parents discussed throughout the channeling session and their relationships. It's one of those sessions where the links between parents and children needs explaining.                    

Genetic breeding chart as of this 1995 recording:

(Note: none of the children are older than three at this point except Klarra.)

Mark and Tia:
The Cubs- Athena, Minerva, and Diana (they are triplets)

Mark and Kiri:
Alex and Leonedies

Russ and Karra (sister to Kiri):
Klarra (daughter of Karra and a different father)
The twins- David and Michael

Russ and Alana (daughter of Karra and her previous soulmate)
(son of Alana and a different father)
Miranda (reincarnation of Kiri and Karra's mother)

The base geneticist                                               

KIRI- Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
TIA RUSS (Archivist)


1.)(1:14)- Tia has a conversation with one of the house cats to encourage his help in protecting a mother cat that had recently given birth. We learn a lot about the lives of cats and their need to procreate.
2.)(6:08)- Ashtar adds in more details regarding the Dark Crystal of Sedona brought up in the channeling session from August. He also asks how Mark and I would feel being the grandparents of a guardian race.
3.)(11:56)- Korton presents an Atlantean timeline from before its colonization to its destruction to its future if all goes as planned. He next confirms everything, no matter what, has its own inner music.
4.) (19:30)- Kiri reveals that she is the keeper of the archives of Sirius which is an honorary position but it gave us access to the Chronicles of Sirius. She stays on theme as well as we discuss genetics and breeding.

1.)(0:33)- Omal sings a little bit before explaining how Sananda's actual second coming would be on the newly ascended Earth. He also reveals that the number of people on that Earth would be 100,000.
2.)(20:09)- Karra explains the different Sirian pronunciation of the family name which gets us joking about the movie "Highlander" as their family is "of the hills". She ends by giving me a challenge to be a sponge.
3.)(28:47)- Alana lets us in on a secret about dolphins that, while they may be higher conscious beings of love, they are very intelligent and can sometimes act like a human if provoked.
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(Kiri takes on the ring mistress role for this session)

Kiri: now, we're going to do this according to procedure and protocol that Tia established and she says that she's not going to break the rules for anybody.

Russ: ahh, understandable.

Kiri: okay, now down to business.

Russ: ouch, fine.

Kiri: you've got to talk louder.

Russ: what? Okay....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: go-ahead.

Kiri: okay, now tonight, we've got a crowded room.

Russ: so I hear.

Kiri: uh-huh, so we're going to be busy.

Russ: good.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: we don't have to talk that much louder with this thing picking up everything.

Kiri: oh good, good, good, good, good, good.

Russ: told you we've got a new system we're working with.

Kiri: oh yes of course, good.

Russ: we can whisper and it will hear us.

Kiri: yes, uh-huh. Okay, I shall put on mistress pussy boots, puss and boots.

Russ: did she bring all the cats in or did Mark bring all the cats in?

Kiri: there's only one that showed up, one cat. Oh well.


(Tia channels to the cats for this section)

Russ: hi Tia.

Tia: yo, hello.

Russ: I'm going to grab the cats.

Tia: well we've got one here, one will be fine.

Russ: where's the one?

Tia: he was.........he's gone off the monitor.

Russ: yeah, he's not in the room before.

Tia: okay.

Russ: I'll grab one of the little munchkins.

Tia: uh-huh.

Russ: here's one.

Tia: he will do.

Russ: alright, I'll be back.

(Tia is goes into a long conversation with a cat in the room)

Tia: I got through the preamble with him. Now.....

(Tia goes into another long conversation with the cat)

Tia: he knows what to do.

Russ: okay, maybe he can pass it on to the other little dweeb heads.

Tia: yes, I told him to communicate it to them if he wants to, but I think they sense that there is a mother cat down there anyway that needs protecting. Now, what you've got to do is you need to get water down there....

Russ: uh-huh.

Tia: you need to discourage that white, scabby male or any other scabby male, because if a male comes and he smells the kittens, he will kill them. Do you know why he will do this?

Russ: eliminate the competition.

Tia: no.

Russ: why?

Tia: because it will make her go into her ovulation cycle again.

Russ: oh, I didn't know that.

Tia: and she will have to replace the kittens. So it is for his continuing of his line.

Russ: what a selfish little beast.

Tia: hmm, yes. One of the things why I am very keen on cats being altered.

Russ: hmm, don't blame you there, it's like sexual slavery.

Tia: pretty much so, yeah.

Russ: hmm.

Tia: since we learned how to master our bodies, we're not slaves to our sexual urges. Now, do you have any questions for me?

Russ: nothing's ready.

Tia: oh, okay.

Russ: nothing on astral projection anyway. Anyway, I could go into a bunch of stuff on high and cosmic principles and everything but I don't know if you want to or not.

Tia: no, I don't want to. I have somebody that I have to go and see as you are well aware of.

Russ: yeah, I figured you weren't quite in the mood for high and cosmic principles.

Tia: no, I'm not.

Russ: right, well that's what I figured.

Tia: okay, I'm going to head off, I'm good to have a quickie and then I'll go and see Carrie....

Russ: okay.

Tia: which should really goof up her dreams.

Russ: I don't doubt that. Okay love, have a fun time.

Tia: uh-huh. Okay, I'll put Kiri on.

Russ: all right.

(Kiri is back to transfer to different speakers)

Kiri: oh boy, what a day, what a day.

Russ: oh yeah?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: there was some excitement, huh?

Kiri: yes, I burnt my finger.

Russ: oh, how did you do that?

Kiri: with my laser solder. I was putting a new line in a helmet, replacing one of the ones I burnt out.

Russ: oh, and your finger got in the way?

Kiri: uh-huh. I was trying to hold the line in place with a pair of tweezers and I'm working on it and it's sort of like, ow, got a little bit close. Nothing major.

Russ: now what do you call coercion, it's a attribute?

Kiri: it's a talent.

Russ: talent, okay.

Kiri: okay? So, what do you want to know?

Russ: how come Ganja is so easy to coerce tonight?

Kiri: I didn't coerce him.

Russ: usually he's a little bit tougher.

Kiri: he's just feeling very relaxed and mellow.

Russ: he seems like he's kind of in a....he doesn't know what he wants to do so he's kind of.....

Kiri: yeah, that is one of the keys to coercion is when somebody is in a malleable mood it's easy to coerce them. But, I suppose I better put on the next person.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: as Tia might say, be careful.


(Ashtar gets right down to business as usual)

Ashtar: greetings, down to business please.

Russ: okay, what happened to Mark last night?

Ashtar: it was brought to our attention, we are looking into it.

Russ: okay. Now then, Karrra, Tia, Kiri, me, and Mark seem to be interbred throughout our lives to engender and raise operent children. Now, is that something that we planned ourselves then?

Ashtar: that is something we cannot discuss at this time..

Russ: okay, all right. Now then, with all the disasters to come, will third dimensional earth become a paradise after technology has died on some timelines?

Ashtar: on some timelines, your planet is already dead. On others, it has not advanced very far. On other timelines, it is progressing at a spurt rate. Spurt meaning fast and then slow. Periods of advanced technology giving away to periods of poor technology leading back up to advanced technology. Technology can be the precursor for advanced civilizations with a paradise world.

Russ: ahh. Okay, understandable. Are you able to study those worlds that died or worlds like that?

Ashtar: no.

Russ: it's just knowledgeable that it has split off.

Ashtar: correct, all things are possible.

Russ: correct, okay. Therefore, Hades Base and Ashtar Command has also split off into parallel worlds.

Ashtar: correct, that is why we are unable to monitor those timelines.

Russ: because you're part of them?

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: understandable. Okay, what can you tell us if possible anything about the stone used by the ET's and secret government out in Sedona?

Ashtar: do not approach it, do not astral travel to see it.

Russ: that was my next question. Okay, good. Can you tell me anything about it?

Ashtar: yes, it is pure evil. It appears to be friendly, it whispers nicely, it does not. It leads down a path that is not to be walked.

Russ: okay. And how much of an influence over third dimensional earth is it?

Ashtar: it's influences are influenced by the energy put into it. It feeds on light.

Russ: okay is it, in other words, is it limited to the area around it or can it expand itself out due to the fact that it can travel on its own?

Ashtar: it can expand itself out, but when it is stationary, it expands itself out by its words and deeds.

Russ: hmm, so are anything that affects us is due to those people who are affected by it, while its words and deeds are doing the damage?

Ashtar: correct. And it is people in between you and the people that are directly involved in it, it is a long chain.

Russ: okay. There is nowhere we can even attempt to do anything to it. Is there anything that can change this thing or defeat it or......?

Ashtar: no, or nothing worth discussing at this time..

Russ: okay. Does it have an opposite?

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: and is the opposite on earth?

Ashtar: no.

Russ: will the opposite be on Earth soon?

Ashtar: that is unknown.

Russ: okay. All right, is the problems we're seeing that have been related to us by Omal......?

Ashtar: they are contributed by this factor.

Russ: okay, and this is been entered into your calculations as to whether this is speeding up or if there's been an increase or not?

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: okay. Alrighty, now, when we were dealing with......I'm dealing with the Bible lately.....is the prophets from the Bible channelers from that time? Such as what we're talking with now?

Ashtar: some, yes.

Russ: okay. So when it says, "taken up by the spirit of the Lord", we could be talking about......?

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: a channel...

Ashtar: correct.

Russ: it's just the wording for it, okay, understandable. All right, do you have any questions for me at this time?

Ashtar: yes.

Russ: okay.

Ashtar: where do you see your children evolving to? 

Russ: healers of the psyche and physical being of future Earth, fifth dimensional........or sixth dimensional.

Ashtar: last night I had discussion with an interesting young gentleman.

Russ: ahh, Leonedies, yes.

Ashtar: and it was discussed the possibility of procreation from them for a higher life form again for the guardians.

Russ: the next step up.

Ashtar: how do you feel about being the grandparents of the Guardian race?

Russ: honored.

Ashtar: thank you.

Russ: thank you.


(Kiri makes this a short transition)


Russ: hey Kiri.

Kiri: hey, so? Yo.

Russ: I'm still alive.

Kiri: the headmaster has left, the principle......okay.


(Korton is the second special guest speaker)


Korton: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal. A lighter.......a lighter greetings.

(Russ laughs but it's for the wrong reason)

Korton: let us start again and see if you can get it right this time.

Russ: ahh.

Korton: greetings and felicitations Russ.

Russ: greetings Korton.

Korton: thank you.

Russ: oh, well it's still lighter.

Korton: yes, indeed. Do you have questions for me?

Russ: yes I do. Okay, first off, I wanted to find out a little bit of questions on past, something in regards to Atlantis.........

Korton: uh-huh?

Russ: and in specifically Atlantean and Sirian procreation.

Korton: uh-huh?

Russ: okay, now we see it managed by the two halves, his base half and his higher consciousness half.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and we're always struggling with raising our Sirian half with our primate half.

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: now, was Atlantis then a chance to jump up and shorten that process?

Korton: it appears that way does it not?

Russ: it does appear that way. It looks like something went wrong.

Korton: it is a necessary learning step of what you could reach for.

Russ: okay, so it sort of set a goal then you might say?

Korton: correct but it was not to be. Because when they came from Sirius, they brought a disease with them.

Russ: okay, that's my next question.

Korton: what is the disease?

Russ: right. Now my theory on this is that the Sirians who came to Atlantis were those who would not be making the jump up to sixth dimension.

Korton: not necessarily.

Russ: okay, some of them would make the jump.....

Korton: right.

Russ: but decided to come to earth to assist in the consciousness raising.

Korton: correct.

Russ: now those who decided to come to earth were those who made the sacrifice then.....

Korton: uh-huh.

Russ: and decided not to go because they knew that those people who wouldn't be going to sixth would need help also.....

Korton: correct.

Russ: and they chose to be teachers. Okay......

Korton: now what did they come to earth to create?

Russ: well now that's why I have a feeling that they couldn't survive as a race indefinitely here and they had to ensure their genes were passed on in the third dimension and so therefore they worked with the indigenous life form that was here.....

Korton: but they were already spread throughout your galaxy.

Russ: oh, they were? So why did they come to earth in particular?

Korton: why did that particular group, the seven races, come to your planet?

Russ: well, I would assume that it was something like precognition.

Korton: no, it was to create what? You discussed it with Ashtar just now.

Russ: to create the Guardian race?

Korton: no.

Russ: to create a higher race?

Korton: no.

Russ: okay.

Korton: you said when technology ceases, what?

Russ: oh, when technology ceases, it becomes a paradise.

Korton: that is what they came to create. A paradise with no war, no greed. What was the disease that they brought with them?

Russ: I'm tempted to say technology but that would be wrong, so I'm going to say they brought with them war and greed.

Korton: correct. War, greed, lust.

Russ: but you couldn't escape it. When we go to sixth dimensional earth, we'll take all that with us too, it's.......

Korton: correct, you will take it with you, but whether or not it blooms and blossoms and corrupts and destroys like it did on your planet or does on your planet is the question. Those that bring it with them that it corrupts and eats will revert back to a lower dimension. Those that do not give way will progress on.

Russ: all right so, we're back to the point of we've got a parallel between Earth and Sirius.

Korton: Sirius yes, quite correct. And what is occurring is your opportunity to be like Sirius.

Russ: okay, so that takes us back to our first question which was, was it a chance to shorten the process?

Korton: and the answer is no.

Russ: no.

Korton: if you shorten the process, it does not work.

Russ: right.

Korton: it will bloom and then go wrong and it blossoms too early.

Russ: right, so basically, the Sirians at that time had a long-term plan.

Korton: correct.

Russ: as do...........though we don't have a plan yet, we will when we get to sixth dimensional earth.....

Korton: you already do have a plan.

Russ: oh we do?

Korton: it is imprinted within you.

Russ: and it was imprinted back when this......back when we're talking about now in Atlantis?

Korton: it was imprinted before then. Those that could not make it to the higher dimension came to your planet to create a utopia. A paradise like the one that they would expect to see on the sixth dimension, but they brought their disease with them.

Russ: of course.

Korton: their disease ate and destroyed them. The survivors were dispersed over the planet. Having inbred with a genetically altered primate, thousands of years later, tens of thousands of years later, a race, emerges, and again, tens of thousands of years after that it achieves a point where it is ready possibly to advance on to the next level.

Russ: okay. Now, going up to sixth dimension doesn't necessarily mean that you will achieve sixth dimensional consciousness.

Korton: correct, that comes with time.

Russ: that only means that you have the opportunity because the dimension is less dense than third, therefore you have a better chance to work with your talents.

Korton: ask the keeper of the archives, she will be able to help you.

Russ: okay, hmm.

Korton: last question please.

Russ: all right. Okay..................oh, here we go. Do crystals harmonize energies the way that songs do?

Korton: yes.

Russ: okay, their own inner music let's say?

Korton: correct, everything has an inner music..

Russ: everything as in every animate or inanimate object then?

Korton: everything.

Russ: everything. Okay, that was I was asking.

Korton: thank you.

Russ: thank you, you're welcome.


(Kiri reveals something her role as the librarian of Sirius)


 Kiri: you want to know something?

Russ: hmmm?

Kiri: the keeper of the archives of Sirius is always a lesbian...or not always a strict lesbian.

Russ: well, who's keeper of the archives he's talking about? Is that Luna?

Kiri: no. Keeper of the archives of Sirius, it's an honorary title which gives the individual access to the archives of Sirius.

Russ: so who's keeper the archives I'm supposed to talk to?

Kiri: now what did I just say about the keeper of the archives?

Russ: lesbian.

Kiri: mostly.

Russ: mostly.

Kiri: doesn't stop her from having children from time to time.

Russ: well it's not you, is it?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is it?

Kiri: yeah, it's been in our house for a long time.

Russ: well you're not a lesbian.

Kiri: hey, I prefer women over men any time.

Russ: so? I mean it's not like......

Kiri: when I was given the title I was one hundred percent strict lesbian.

Russ: oh, yeah I guess you were, weren't you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it seems so long ago.

Kiri: put it this way, I love Mark dearly but if I had a choice between making love with Tia on her own or Mark on his own.....

Russ: it would be Tia in a heartbeat.

Kiri: uh-huh, but I do love Mark deeply.

Russ: hmm, well that's good. Okay, well since I'm talking to the keeper of the archives.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what can you tell me about that?

Kiri: I'd have to send for information.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: what do you want to know?

Russ: I want to know about the parallel to happen compared to what happened here on earth.

Kiri: okay.....

Russ: so in other words, nothing about the future, It's just I'd like to get some information about the past.

Kiri: okay, I will send off for some information to do with the relationship between Earth and Sirius.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: okay?

Russ: okay.

Kiri: what do you think of the gossip though?

Russ: oh, as if that wasn't expected?

Kiri: it was totally expected.

Russ: that was in the pipeline back when they first got together.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah. So she's going to have to come and meet the former Mrs. Tanaxa sometime, huh?

Kiri: uh-huh. Meet her granddaughter and....

(Russ starts laughing)

Kiri: her, how would you word that?

Russ: I don't know, it's little convoluted.

Kiri: daughter, granddaughter? Yes, it is a little bit. Okay......

Russ: alrighty.

Kiri: oh, we've got time to talk.

Russ: okay. Actually, it would be her sister-in-law's granddaughter?

Kiri: no, she will be step grandmother to Alana, step great-grandmother....

Russ: to Miranda.

Kiri: correct.......

Russ: that's right.

Kiri: who is grandmother to Alana.

Russ: correct.

Kiri: don't worry, it's not unheard of.

Russ: I'm sure it's not. Not with the lifespans and past life recognitions that you guys go through.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Russ: now what was Ashtar talking about when he was talking about Leonedies working on the mixing of the two clans and how would I feel about being a grandparent to the guardians of earth?

Kiri: basically what he's asking for is your permission for incest.

Russ: we'll wait a minute, that's not quite true. Because the Cubs and David and Michael....

Kiri: are totally unrelated.

Russ: are totally unrelated.

Kiri: but he's thinking of....

Russ: Miranda and.....

Kiri: Leonedies.

Russ: Leonedies.

Kiri: and Alex and she's still fulfilling her part of the bargain. Can you hear out there?

Russ: uh-uh.

Kiri: well we've got the RF gain on high.

Russ: oh, no wonder. So basically, what we're looking at is cousins.

Kiri: uh-huh, cousins breeding.

Russ: they do it all the time back in the old hills.

Kiri: yes, well you would know about that being a redneck wouldn't you?

Russ: I would know about that having a truck like I do.

Kiri: yeah. You might be a redneck if your cousin is your wife. You might be a redneck if you attend family reunions to meet women.

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: yes, the Hatfields and McCoys.

Russ: yes, I know. Okay, so basically what we're looking at....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is okay..........let's say that Miranda and Leonedies get together and have a kid.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: okay?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well, any defective genes can be taken out up there on Hades Base.

Kiri: we don't have defective genes in our family.

Russ well if there was because it's so closely related.

Kiri: uh-huh. They probably weigh the chances of negative reinforcement. I'm a little bit........hmm, not too sure about the idea.

Russ: why not? How can I be totally up for this and you're not? You're the one who's a higher consciousness being. I'm just a starter at this stuff.

Kiri: it's not so much that, what Ashtar is talking about is......okay Miranda and Leonedies right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: Miranda and Alex, right?

Russ: right.

Kiri: their children, union.

Russ: oh and then their children being unioned?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: that would make me a great-grandfather of the guardians.

Kiri: see what's happening is that they're intertwining it real tight?

Russ: it's not a problem with me, that's Mark's problem at that point.

Kiri: I don't think Mark has any taboos about that.

Russ: well I certainly don't. Hey, all I'm worried about is just the genes....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: as I'm always worried about. But if the genes aren't a problem, I say go for it. I mean what happens like they get in the backseat of the car and they like just don't hit it off?

Kiri: well, I see Miranda.......if the stories are correct about her.....

Russ: yeah, but that was her old ways. I mean, maybe she's going to becoming a nun or something. Enter a church.....

Kiri: I don't think so, I don't think so.

Russ: following in her great-grandmother's footsteps.

Kiri: that is my eventual goal when I reach 800.

Russ: well yeah, you'll make a great nun too I might add.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: by the way....

Kiri: uh-huh?

Russ: what happens if let's say it becomes a point of fact where Leonedies and Alex want to get together with the Cubs?

Kiri: there's no problem, I don't see it as a problem because their genes are far enough apart genetically. They share a father certainly,

Russ: well what about if David and Michael get together with Miranda and Klarra?

Kiri: hmmmm.

Russ: I mean that's talking about a little bit closer to what.......

Kiri: that's right, closer to what we're talking about.

Russ: okay, now, is that what Leonedies is talking about?

Kiri: uh-huh. Leonedies has about half the genetic knowledge that Kornas has.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: which is quite a lot if you think about it.

Russ: it's at least as much as Karra's got.

Kiri: he's probably got a little bit more than....

Russ: Karra because she's not been working on it much lately.

Kiri: that's right, she's not a geneticist.

Russ: right. Okay, so.....

Kiri: so the other one finally shows up and Tia's gone. You guys have a discussion with furball down there.

Russ: no, he's gone outside already.

Kiri: oh, that's why there wasn't an energy signature down there.

Russ: right. Okay, so basically the problem we're coming into....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: is, how do we go ahead and.....yeah I know, I checked it myself......how do we manage to get everybody all cool about this? Now Leonedies of course is going to have total purpose in mind when whoever he engenders any kids with........

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: it's going to be for a reason. So who do you think he would have the best chance of making babies with? Miranda.

Kiri: no, I think Klarra maybe.

Russ: why Klarra?

Kiri: because she's older, and mentally a little bit more mature than the others.

Russ: yeah, but Miranda was the one who was almost a super operant?

Kiri: uh-huh. He'll probably do both of them and see who gets pregnant first. You've got to remember that he's going to be a hell of a coercer.

Russ: thing is, how can he figured this out before his testes even drop practically?

Kiri: you got to remember that his mind is more developed than his body. I think he's looking forward to the joys of youth, childhood.

Russ: okay, here's a question for you darling. All right, Sirians take longer to mature than Earth people do.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah, twenty-one is when it's safe.

Russ: is when it's safe, right? Whereas for us, well thirteen I mean you could have kids.

Kiri: yeah, I have heard of twenty-year-olds having children.

Russ: twenty-year-olds? Okay, now, that's not the question.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now, these kids are hybrids....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: now what are we looking at a maturity rate here then?

Kiri: I'm going to go with twenty-one to be on the safe side.

Russ: now that's taking into a bias of what you're used to from your planet?

Kiri: correct, that's for safety.

Russ: safety, but........

Kiri: I don't want my niece getting pregnant by one of my sons and then having difficulty for her giving birth and all the problems that would create.

Russ: but what if Kornas gives the go-ahead, the green light?

Kiri: if Kornas says that they are ready to make love and get each other pregnant....

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: then that's fine by me.

Russ: sixteen, let's say?

Kiri: that's fine by me.

Russ: okay, I mean you've got to admit, it could be eighteen would be a nominal age for all of them with the hybrided genes.

Kiri: uh-huh, correct?

Russ: twenty-one, they might be over the hill.

Kiri: no, I doubt it.

Russ: well I know, but you know what I mean?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean they might only live to be what, five hundred?

Kiri: yeah, they've got plenty of time.

Russ: yeah right.

Kiri: they've got until they're four hundred that they can easily have children.

Russ: yeah, with rejuvenation, they could go for a lot longer.

Kiri: uh-huh, correct.

Russ: but the thing is that, with the different genes and with the circumstances coming the way they are, it might be necessary to have kids sooner than later.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: what if circumstances demand.......?

Kiri: it's possible that Alex could live live the normal lifespan of a human.

Russ: true, true, but I doubt it.

Kiri: I doubt it too. Miranda could have the normal lifespan of a human.

Russ: but even so, even with a normal lifespan, with rejuvenation techniques....

Kiri: uh-huh, they could just about make five hundred.

Russ: right. I mean lifespans of ours might be seventy, maybe a hundred if we really push it. But were we able to be rejuved?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm saying.

Kiri: yeah, hmm.

Russ: we could live to be five hundred or so.

Kiri: yeah.

Russ: our bodies are designed to live forever......

Kiri: come on, come here, come here.

Russ: it's just our outside....

Kiri: you're not too sure, are you?

Russ: influences.

Kiri: I wish I could speak Catonese like Tia can. She's not sure of what's going on. Come here........oh go away then. Hmm, it's possible, it's possible. I really don't.....I'm not too.......we got a visitor.

Russ: who are they?

Kiri: hmm, sorry?

Russ: who?

Kiri: oh, Alana.

Russ: oh good.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I've got a question for her.

Kiri: oh that's good. We'll finish up this side and then we'll flip over to the other side, and I'll put on the last remaining three people.

Russ: okay, how much farther do we got on the side?

Kiri: oh, about five minutes.

Russ: oh, okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Kiri: but it is an interesting dilemma is breeding David and Michael with Klarra......

Russ: and Miranda.

Kiri: and Miranda, yeah. That is something that I'm a little bit concerned about. But what surprised me was I was asleep when Ashtar came over last night.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: well don't you have any historical precedents for this?

Kiri: hmmm, I can't remember. I'd have to sit down with the master archive computer and that would mean a week trip to Sirius and Leonedies is too young to travel at the moment.

Russ: so nothing in your mind can remind you?

Kiri: not off at hand, no. I can remember case histories of laws.

Russ: what's that?

Kiri: the law of incest.

Russ: there is a law?

Kiri: uh-huh, there is a law.

Russ: against it or for it?

Kiri: it states in certain situations where it is necessary to continue a genetic line, it is permittable. It is not permittable between...hmmm...between lesser operants. Lesser operants only having one ability where they would override each other. For example, somebody that has coercion and somebody that has let's say PK engender in a child where the two would override each other of the same level and ability. That is not permittable. A brother and sister could not be allowed to have children at that point. These old laws have been repealed.

Russ: oh, they're not in effect anymore?

Kiri: that's correct. There is a father making love to his daughter for the purpose of having children is not permittable because the gene reinforcements would be a negative reinforcement.

Russ: that's what we're talking about.

Kiri: except......

Russ: oh.

Kiri: in cases of individuals with two or more abilities. But you have to remember that these laws are two to three thousand years old.

Russ: and then great steps have been made in genetic research since then.

Kiri: correct and the fact that it is rare for somebody to have less than two abilities. I myself have three.

Russ: right. Okay now, Leonedies, the Grand Master himself....

Kiri: has all five of them.

Russ: has all five. Therefore, he can have children with whoever he wants.

Kiri: uh-huh. And that is another part of the incest law is that people with more than three abilities, and back then three abilities was a super operant........

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: were permitted to make love with their sisters or brothers if they had two or more abilities that were not conflicting abilities or not reinforcing abilities.

Russ: oh I see.

Kiri: which would give the children the possibility of five abilities, but nine times out of ten it did not work but that one time out of ten was was worth the boon.

Russ: and that one time has helped engender the massive amounts of super operant's you now have on your hands.

Kiri: there's still not that many though.

Russ: yeah but it's more than it would've been had the laws been in effect.

Kiri: correct.

Russ: or laws been more stringent let's say.

Kiri: uh-huh. In fact, there was a very early law which gave super operant's rights over everything for procreation.

Russ: oh really?

Kiri: uh-huh. It was a very harsh law.

Russ: in other words, they could do anybody?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: sisters, brothers......

Kiri: strangers on the street.

Russ: strangers on the street....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: wow.

Kiri: and that was a time where genetic experiment was really primitive. A little bit more advanced than on your planet but not much more.

Russ: I see, so now it's a big change.

Kiri: uh-huh. It was felt at the time........I believe, if my memory is correct.

Russ: I kind of have the feeling that David and Michael aren't going to want to knock up Miranda and Klarra just because of the fact that their operant abilities are so close together. I think it would be more likely that Mark's clan and my clan or your kids, Tia's kids and my kids and Karra's kids will all get together back and forth that way.

Kiri: it's possible. I mean we can sit here and speculate until the cows come home.

Russ: well, because our side has a few different operant abilities that would be beneficial to your sides.

Kiri: oh yes, and vice a versa.

Russ: and vice a versa, correct. So our kids would be super operants in possibly all five with more chances that way.

Kiri: uh-huh. But you have to remember that Miranda, when she was alive as my mother, was one very horny young lady.

Russ: true.

Kiri: I mean, the reason why she went on.......or one of the reasons my father told me that she became an engineer on a flight ship was the fact that it gave her access to lots of sexual experience.

Russ: okay, now what about.......




(Kiri, as promised, brings on the first of three speakers)

Kiri: well, I suppose I better put on the n.n.n.n.n.n.n.n.n.next speaker.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: didn't mean to stutter. So....so....so....so....what's....what's....what's....what's....happened....happened...

Russ: spent time in UFOs, I'd say.

Kiri: yes, I heard all about that from Tia, I thought it was funny.

Russ: I did too.

(Omal finally has a chance to channel)

Omal: live long and prosper, greetings Russ.

Russ: greetings Omal. I got it right!!!

Omal: we've only one person with a deep voice left, I don't see how you would fail to get it right. And I notice that you were very careful in not mentioning Ashtar's name until at the end when he had given you confirmation that it was Ashtar.

Russ: well just playing it safe.

Omal: I think even Korton could not be that abrupt.

Russ: no, that's true. Korton has been that abrupt, but not quite that bad.

Omal: no, and not....

Russ: he's been in a very fast hurry with meetings and stuff.

Omal: yes, and not....

Russ: he's at least said hi.

Omal: and not beating you to the question.

Russ: right.

Omal: you ask one question and you get the answer for the next question, and possibly the question after that as well.

(Russ laughs at how true that is).

Russ: yeah, he's pretty good.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: of course you could do that too if you wanted to, I'm sure, but it gives away all the fun.

Omal: yes, it does take out the entertainment.

Russ: all right, here we go. All right, last week you mentioned the white light covering Skip prior to learning how to use shields.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now how is that utilized once you are able to use shields?

Omal: it is the root core, the substance that fills the shields.

Russ: okay, and can that then be strengthened to improve shields?

Omal: it is the substance that absorbs the energy once it has penetrated your shields. Slows it down so you can move away and repair your shields.

Russ: oh I see, okay. So in other words, it's sort of like a filling.

Omal: correct, it is a little bit like a sponge.

Russ: yeah, okay, I get it. Which is what we were talking about before, but I believe before we were coloring it.

Omal: correct.

Russ: it wasn't just white, we were using different colors.

Omal: white is so much easier to use.

Russ: right, I see. So this is a simplistic form of the foam...

Omal: correct.

Russ: okay, got it all. Good, that explains a lot. Alrighty........

Omal: he certainly does cut you down to size sometimes.

Russ: yeah, it was like I asked him the question about the crystal, "yep".

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: "oh, okay".

Omal: no explanation, just yes.

Russ: yes, oh all right, well I guess I got that one already down. I mean us third dimensional beings can be a little bit slow at times.

Omal: yes.

Russ: he kind of wants us to work a little bit harder to make sure we're not that slow.

Omal: correct. I feel that what he does is very good. Of course, he is the overall area commander...

Russ: of course.

Omal: and he has his own teaching techniques. And I do think that his forcing you to think, and think quickly is very good. I myself do not prefer that teaching method.

Russ: I prefer your teaching methods a lot.

Omal: with humor?

Russ: yes. I learn a lot quicker with you than I do with him. With him it's like pop quiz.

Omal: hmmm, yes.

Russ: oh okay, what have we learned this entire week? Well.....

Omal: it may be useful to get Mark a......or get his body a glass of water as he appears to have an aquatic life form in his throat.

Russ: one frog killer coming right up.

Omal: a short pause, a dull interlude whilst Omal will do a seldom heard thing of singing. "I woke up this morning feeling so sick I thought I was dead, oh yes I did. I rolled over to my pillow and I threw up, all over that".

Russ: here you go.

Omal: oh, thank you. You just missed a rendition of singing.

Russ: I was hearing a little bit of that........tasty.

Omal: hydrogen and oxygen I believe, with flavoring.

Russ: uh-uh, no flavoring, just distilled. So none of the bleach and chemicals.

Omal: ahh, that is why it tastes more pure.

Russ: right.

Omal: okay......

Russ: thought it would be good for him for a change.

Omal: yes, instead of the chlorine and fluoride they put in your water.

Russ: never did figure that one out. Okay...........

Omal: okay.

Russ: I'm going to go to the heavy stuff now.

Omal: uh-huh. I'm surprised you did not ask Ashtar, he would have given you a much more detailed explanation.

Russ: all right no, I'd just rather work with this one.

Omal: okay.

Russ: all right, now since we're working on......I'm working on the Bible a little bit....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I was wondering about when I was talking to Ashtar, on the third earth becoming a paradise and have technology. Now, obviously on the timeline that we're looking at, that's probably not going to happen with the paradise on third dimensional earth. It's probably going to be a hell on earth, I think. Now, those needing less lessons would probably follow that timeline though that would become a paradise.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: where those needing more lessons would follow the timeline then going on to that earth that is hell.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: which is how I would see it.

Omal: that is logical.

Russ: okay, now in the Bible we're talking about the second coming.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now, isn't this where we're talking about Sananda coming to guide on the third earth or the sixth earth?

Omal: more than likely the sixth earth. Is is an area that I do not know very much about. I can speculate, and Sananda would reveal his true self.

Russ: uh-huh?

Omal: and he would come and say, "follow me, I will show you the ways but then I must depart". He would explain his situation, his being, and demonstrate that he is a son of a higher level.

Russ: right. I can't see him doing it down here. It would be like....

Omal: no, he would not do it.....

Russ: it would be redundant because he's already done that once.

Omal: correct but he would do it on the sixth earth.

Russ: right, because of the fact that back then in the biblical times, earth was at the same point that sixth dimensional earth would be when he would come back again.

Omal: it would be actually a stage beforehand.

Russ: right, yeah, a stage beforehand. You're right.

Omal: you've got to remember, what is the number of the people that will start the original gene pool on the higher earth?

Russ: are we dealing with the 144,000?

Omal: a hundred thousand actually.

Russ: a hundred thousand.

Omal: 144,000 is the term used by the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Russ: right.

Omal: it is actually less.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: but there would be more people coming in the time after. These would be the creators of the new world, much as they were on Sirius.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: and you really should have talked to Kiri about that. She would be able to give you information......and she's shaking her head saying that she already has enough research to do.

Russ: I know, I don't want to give her too much. Basically, how do you feel about this what Ashtar was talking about with the genes?

Omal: I think it is a good thing. Your gene records are pretty clear, you do not have any..........I do not wish to use the term defective, but it is the only one that would explain the situation fully.

Russ: right. And you're right, just a self-monitoring thing yeah, I would say you're right.

Omal: you do not have any brothers or cousins that were genetically deformed at birth.

Russ: right, and then all my relatives on both sides have had no history of like hair loss or problem with cancer or anything that was caused by anything other than.......

Omal: all Mark's grandparents were long-lived.

Russ: right, so were mine. Good, well this should work out just fine then. All right, let's go over to the good stuff now, we've had enough fun there. Alrighty, now we're going on to survival into the 21st century.......

Omal: okay.

Russ: which is jumping right up upon us now. So let's go on to the next lessons.

Omal: four and a half years away.

Russ: that's true. Okay, now, tuning the mind to the extrasensory level.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: this would be happening if we were to go ahead and claim our birthright of being created in the image of God, all perfect, all-knowing and all present. Even a portion of that would give us a extrasensory level, right?

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: now is that talking about then working with a higher amount of brain cell usage?

Omal: a higher percentage of brain use, yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: but who was the creator of your race?

Russ: the Sirians.

Omal: hmm, a Sirian.

(Russ starts laughing)

Russ: a Sirian, yes.

Omal: yes.

Russ: okay.

Omal: and who was that Sirian?

Russ: me.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: well, it was just a hobby. I had to have something to do at the time.

Omal: yes, we all have to have hobbies from time to time.

Russ: indeed. All right.......

Omal: mine is making brick walls for people to climb over.

Russ: that's good, I like that one. I wish you would give us a ladder once in a while.

Omal: no, just a piece of rope.

Russ: all right.

Omal: here.

Russ: thank you, I'll use it, wisely. All right, now the other thing I have is......okay, when we're talking about extrasensory consciousness or awareness....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: I'm reading about Christ consciousness or Buddha consciousness.

Omal: it does not matter, it is the same.

Russ: it's the same.

Omal: Jehovah consciousness.

Russ: Jehovah consciousness, yeah, it would create a flood of euphoria that would heal illnesses in your body.

Omal: correct.

Russ: now, is this the same thing that we're talking about here, the extrasensory.......?

Omal: it is more of a revelation of what the body can do. All of a sudden, "wow, I can do that?"

Russ: right. Now, I've talked with Sananda.....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and even channeled through Mark, his presence can be felt, it's just this like ten-thousand watt light bulb.

Omal: yes. I would put higher myself personally.

Russ: okay. But I mean yeah, you spend more time with him than I ever have.

Omal: yes, in fact I am going to a meeting, I will be unavailable next week. I am going to a meeting on Centauri Base....

Russ: hmmm.

Omal: to meet with other base commanders and Ashtar will be there and then Sananda will be there.

Russ: oh okay, great. Well that will be good for you then, being as you can talk to the bosses of bosses.

Omal: yes.

Russ: but now, how would you.....? Let's call it Sananda consciousness.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what is it?

Omal: it is a state of perfect harmony, where not only do you think sixth dimensionally, you act and speak and feel and think.......and I hate to repeat myself.....but thinking sixth dimensionally is part of it.

Russ: oh I see. But now you're talking acting sixth dimensionally when in actuality, you'd be even higher than that, wouldn't it?

Omal: no.

Russ: oh really?

Omal: it is sixth dimensional behavior and thinking. The fact that it permeates through the higher levels, to more and greater extent the higher you go....

Russ: uh-huh. Oh, it starts at sixth.

Omal: correct.

Russ: I see, you could achieve it here on third very rarely.
Omal: what would you do if I materialized down there in my true form?

Russ: make you a cup of tea.

Omal: one would be appreciated if I did that.

Russ: I'm sure it would be.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: but yeah, you're right, I mean....

Omal: and I am getting close to that point where I will be pure light.

Russ: oh you will?

Omal: yes, in another five-thousand years or so.

Russ: hmm. Now I wonder......

Omal: my purple skin will no longer upset people.

Russ: I remember when we were talking with Roger....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and you were channeling through him at that time....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and talking how you were going to be born into a third dimensional body. And I was going.....

Omal: hmm, that is still a possibility.

Russ: well yeah, but I was thinking that would be kind of redundant. Well not that you haven't done it, it's just that why go down a level? I mean.....

Omal: why did Sananda go down a level, or many levels?

Russ: well that's true.

Omal: I might do it in between my points of higher consciousness before I become pure light like Korton.

Russ: right. Oh, it's something to contemplate, I see.

Omal: uh-huh, it is an option. I might temporarily have my body put into a state of stasis and step out and be reborn for a period of time.

Russ: hmm, I see. Well, it's kind of a nice place to hang out. I mean, for a third dimensional world, it's got its charms.

Omal: but you have to remember also that Roger did drink which did muddle his thought process that made it very difficult for me to mesh with him.

Russ: that's true, I kind of thought some of that might be a little bit of his overlaying of what was going on.

Omal: his desires.

Russ: right, okay.

Omal: even though he was in a trance, his desires were still there because of his muddled state due to alcohol.

Russ: subconscious coming through?

Omal: yes. Remember how I used to debate with him about drink?

Russ: oh yeah, I remember.

Omal: at great length and how harmful it was.

Russ: uh-huh.

Omal: it was a lubrication certainly, but it was too much imbibed. A glass of wine does not affect too much but quite a number of beers...

Russ: that will do the trick.

Omal: will certainly let me enter easier, but it will also have his emotions intertwined with my words and feelings.

Russ: right. Well, it was a tough group to deal with anyway, I don't blame him sometimes. Okay, now then, dealing with some of the things that are going to be happening coming up.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: we're looking at earthquakes and other problems within the world....

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: as what appears to be an acceleration of the process that is just starting.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and where I'm seeing in my readings that the end would be a result of many things.......

Omal: yes.

Russ:  and any one could trigger it.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: in other words, we're working with depression, energy failure, epidemics, war, famine, earthquakes and ecological disasters.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: and we're seeing a lot of each of those individually....

Omal: yes.

Russ: we're not seeing them at one time. What would be something so great that would actually cause it?

Omal: it is more of a domino effect. A failure economically here, combined with a crop failure there, can be keys that will cause a country to have internal strife.

Russ: hmm.

Omal: which in turn would affect external, a domino effect.

Russ: now I've been thinking about trying to go hiking around through the mountains here and see if I can't find some isolated little cave somewhere for a little hideaway just in case of problems for me and Mark to go and split off to if things got really, really bad.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: what do you think?

Omal: I think expeditions are fun and entertaining, I used to enjoy them myself.

Russ: I mean, do you think there will be a need for such a drastic step possibly?

Omal: when that occurs everybody will be looking for a similar retreat.

Russ: oh.

Omal: it may be useful to have one already planned...

Russ: and all stashed away and hidden away just for in case.

Omal: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, understandable. That's all I have, thank you Omal.

Omal: okay, thank you very much. Enjoyable session as always.

Russ: as always.

Omal: even though we went from heavy, or very heavy to heavy to the light entertainment.

Russ: alrighty, farewell.


(Kiri hears silent cheers upon her return)

Kiri: thank you my adoring fans, thank you, thank you. Can you hear them?

Russ: ahh yeah, I think they just saw the edge of you coming in there.

Kiri: okay. Right, now when I was living on Sirius and I was getting ready to move to Hades Base, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: I had a friend come over and I was all packed and everything and I had everything in the boxes ready to go and she walked in the door and she said, "are you moving?" And I looked at her and I said, "no, I just pack everything up about once every week or so just to see how many boxes it would take.

Russ: you really said that? What initiated your move to Hades Base anyway? Were you assigned or were you just checking....?

Kiri: actually I was.......it was partly an assignment and partly I wanted a change of scenery.

Russ: oh, I see.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: tough to leave Sirius though, it's such a beautiful planet.

Kiri: oh, it is.

Russ: very nice, but well so is earth in some of its ways like I was telling Omal.

Kiri: hmm, yes.

Russ: okay....hmm......

Kiri: I'll put her on.

Russ: all right, thank you.

Kiri: she just kicked me. She told me to stop hogging all the time.

Russ: ahh, understandable.

Kiri: yes. I remember once Karra came over and I had a trolley that had one flat wheel? And she walked in and goes, "flat tire?"

Kiri: I said, "no, the other one's just swelled up."


(Karra follows after her sister's joke at her expense)

Russ: hello my love.

Karra: hello. What am I going to do with her?

Russ: I don't know.

Karra: she's in a wicked mood.

Russ: you sure your dad wasn't fooling around with somebody on the side of your mom? I mean wasn't fooling around on the side. She is related to you by the same father, right?

Karra: yes, she is. There was a time where she was about six years old and they tested her, it was debated.

Russ: well that's good, I was still debating it myself.

Karra: oh, she was tested and she is one hundred percent of the house Tanaka.

Russ: oh okay, cool. Okay, how come everybody calls it Tanaxa, and I've always called it Tanaka, until lately when I called it Tanaxa?

Karra: it's a variation on the pronunciation.

Russ: oh, it is?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: either one isn't wrong.

Karra: oh correct. Yeah, either one.

Russ: okay.

Karra: it depends on what accent you're using. If you're using the native accent of the high hills...

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: which is where the seat is, right?

Russ: right.

Karra: it's Tanaxa. If you use the lowland pronunciation of Tanaka, which is where the family gathers.......not the family seat, but the family gathering point.

Russ: well, what's it mean?

Karra: hmm, it basically means of the hills.

Russ: oh. Okay, that makes sense.

Karra: uh-huh, that's why family is always put in front of it, the family Tanaka.

Russ: oh.

Karra: the family of the hills.

Russ: the family of the hills.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh, well excellent, that makes sense.

Karra: so when we gather....

Russ: Highlanders.

Karra: yeah, you could say that. I suppose I'll have to go and have a kilt made up now, a tartan.

Russ: there we go.

Karra: there can only be one Highlander.

(Karra borrows some of my memories of the movie "Highlander" to say something in brogue) 

Karra: are you coming over to see the bairns tonight lad?

Russ: oh, the wee bairns, yes.

Karra: aye.

Russ: aye.

Karra: it's a good job that's in your mind, though.

Russ: uh-huh. And how are we going to deal with our little siblings deciding to make other siblings?

Karra: hmm, what is necessary is necessary. There is no defectives in my family, I know there are none in yours so there's nothing really that much to worry about..

Russ: okay. Now I asked Ashtar all this and he kind of just......"yes". When I asked about interbreeding between you, me, Kiri, Tia and Mark....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: he says, "yes".

Karra: if there was a possibility that it has happened and he answered the question, yes.

Russ: yeah right. But I mean, I thought maybe I could ask you for a little bit more definitive answer.

Karra: yes there was. I have been both your mother and your daughter and your wife.....

Russ: ahh.

Karra: and your sister.

Russ: ahh.

Karra: Mark has been both your brother, father, son, and so on. And the same, we've all been fathers and sons and daughters....

Russ: Tia........

Karra: mothers and brothers and sisters and......

Russ: well how did Tia get on Durondedunn after spending time with us or were there all different planets kind of thing?

Karra: different locations.

Russ: it wasn't just earth?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, that makes sense.

Karra: yeah. But I'm really not fully versed on why Tia decided to go to Durondedunn, or if she'd been there for a time.

Russ: well, she had to learn cat or something.

Karra: it is possible she was doing bad things to cats and needed to learn what it was like to be of a cat descent.

Russ: well, that makes sense actually, that's very logical.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: hmm okay, I'll go with that. Alrighty, now then, in reading my researches here on medicine.....

Karra: but I really don't see with how much Tia loves and adores cats....?

Russ: how she could do that?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well, like I say, it could've been, "here I am, I'm a healer, at one time I wasn't".

Karra: at one time you were a geneticist that was creating a race. But anyway sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

Russ: no, that's all right.

Karra: in your studies, you were what?

Russ: oh, in my studies I was seeing that chromosome damage due to high caffeine is similar to what is done with LSD.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: should we cut down a little bit on what we are drinking caffeine wise around here?

Karra: hmm.

Russ: we go through a lot of caffeine in a day.

Karra: I'll let you into a little bit of bad news on Mark's part, right?

Russ: hmm.

Karra: he's had taken away from him...hello.....he's had taken away from him several things that he enjoys.

Russ: what?

Karra: he loves bell peppers, he loves tomatoes, he's had them taken away.

Russ: take away his tea and he might as well...

Karra: and coffee he supposed to cut down and chocolate, so why take away something that he enjoys? And it's the same for you.

Russ: but I mean chromosome damage for us, I mean good God, we're not really planning on having too many kids down here anyway.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: our kids have all been raised up on Hades Base...

Karra: yes.

Russ: so any chromosome damage is....

Karra: but at least one child each, please.

Russ: down here right?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: well I'm working on it, I worked on it the other night. Now, unloving thoughts. Now they're harmful to the psyche....

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: now, how does this happen to our spiritual selves?

Karra: because it is like a cut.

Russ: oh, it is?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh, I get it. So it....ohhhh, so it's like bleeding?

Karra: correct. If you don't have another one it heals, but if you have another one of a similar thought before it has a chance to heal.....

Russ: right?

Karra: it enlarges the cut.

Russ: but there are some people who are terminal.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Karra: you have to remember, life is a terminal experience.

Russ: that's true. Well what about the fact that our cells rejuvenate themselves between one and seven years? Doesn't that make us immortal? I mean, is our outside influences so much devastating that we finally can't keep up anymore?

Karra: it's not so much that, it is that the program starts to break down.

Russ: why?

Karra: environmental factors, the sun being one....

Russ: radiation.

Karra: uh-huh and so on. There is many different factors.

Russ: so it would replenish themselves were they not just outnumbered by the different environmental factors against them.

Karra: correct.

Russ: now, as you remember, back when I was studying my white witchcraft and magical abilities and all that.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I attacked it with a certain ferociting.......ferocity.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: whichever.

Karra: ferociousness.

Russ: ferociousness.

Karra: Highlander.

Russ: Highlander. I was wondering......I need to........

Karra: it's the quickening!!!

Russ: I want to recover that in my studies now.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: I can't really remember how it was I went at before. I just knew that was...

Karra: it was a challenge.

Russ: all-consuming.

Karra: it was a challenge.

Russ: yeah?

Karra: I challenge you, I challenge you.

Russ: I see, so make it challenging again.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay.

Karra: and I'm challenging you.

Russ: to do what?

Karra: to learn as much as possible.

Russ: okay.

Karra: to be like a sponge.....

(we hear Russ make a sucking noise)

Karra: to suck up knowledge. And how much is there left on the tape, it should be about ten minutes?

Russ: we should have a bit.....a little more than that actually. If I've got this right.....

Karra: uh-huh. Look at the arrows on the bottom.

Russ: we've either got ten minutes or we have got tons of time.

Karra: let's assume we've got ten minutes and let's put Kiri on.

Russ: okay. And I assume it's ten minutes, I don't know.

Karra: and I can always come back in if it comes a time.

Russ: all right.

Karra: see you later babe.

Russ: bye love.

Karra: Highlander.

Russ: challenge you.

Karra: hey, I'm the Highlander, what am I saying?

Russ: you are the Highlander.


(Alana gets to speak without a hand off from Kiri to save time)


Russ: hi, my love.

Alana: here's something interesting that I learned today.

Russ: oh, what's that?

Alana: you know where lesbian in your language comes from?

Russ: yeah, Lesbos, which is from the Greek which stands for an island....

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: that Ulysses found on his travels...

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: which was inhabited strictly by women who loved each other.

Alana: uh-huh, Lesbos.

Russ: right.

Alana: yes, I only just learned that today.

Russ: oh, should of just asked me.

Alana: I asked Kiri.

Russ: oh good.

Alana: Auntie Kiri.

Russ: right.

Alana: Auntie Lesbos.

Russ: dolphins had a lot to do with Ulysses actually too.

Alana: uh-huh, brave Ulysses......

Russ: right.

Alana: the tale of brave Ulysses.

Russ: good song.

Alana: hmm.

Russ: okay, I was talking to Karra there about unloving thoughts being harmful to the psyche.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: now, you're the expert on dolphins.......

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: have dolphins ever have or ever demonstrated unloving thoughts?

Alana: yes, but they won't be caught doing it.

Russ: well then, how did you catch them?

Karra: I got so friendly with them that I know some of their history.

Russ: oh, you do?

Alana: uh-huh and you've never heard of a third dimensional earth dolphin harming a human, have you?

Russ: not as a norm.

Alana: they just don't get caught.

Russ: so these are relatively few occurrences....

Alana: oh yes.

Russ: but those that do happen, become epic in proportion.

Alana: yes...yes they're suppressed and hidden from humans. In fact, there was.....one of the dolphins was telling me that it heard a story of a dolphin actually killing a human diver.

Russ: I've heard that too, but it was.......the way I heard it, was that it was protecting him from sharks, but it just got in the way or something.

Karra: it was a little bit more complicated than that. And what they did was, they manipulated it to make it look like he was attacked by sharks.

Russ: oh, is that it?

Alana: uh-huh, the dolphins in the area manipulated everything to cover it up.

Russ: must have really pissed these dolphins off is all I can think of.

Alana: hey, it happens, if the dolphin has a good reason.

Russ: oh damn, we give dolphins enough reasons every single day of our lives.

Alana: but you have to remember that for a dolphin to have good reason, it has to be a very, very good reason.

Russ: yeah, what about getting netted in exchange for trying to scarf a few tuna?

Alana: well, let's not discuss that because it will get me upset too.

Russ: get me really pissed off.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: but yeah, in that case I couldn't blame the dolphins for anything they've ever done, it would be a lot less than we've ever done to them.

Alana: oh, certainly.

Russ: they'd have every right to I'd say.

Alana: uh-huh. But you see they have a higher consciousness because they are loving.

Russ: well I think also is that they not only have a higher consciousness, but they have a higher responsibility.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: I mean, they're the ones with the reputation of being love and purity and light, and everything.

Alana: uh-huh, yeah and never hurting a human.

Russ: right, so they've got....

Alana: little do the humans know.

Russ: they've got a higher calling.......

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: so they ought to cover it up......

Alana: yes.

Russ: just for good PR sake.

Alana: uh-huh, of course, PR is very important.

Russ: absolutely.

Alana: uh-huh. 

Russ: all right, well I was just thinking that reasoning it out, because it would be great to be able to emulate something...

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: that is always in loving harmony with its environment.

Alana: uh-huh. You coming up tonight?

Russell: yeah, I am.

Alana: hmm....yes, I had an enjoyable afternoon.

Russ: oh, what did you do?

Alana: well, I was working in the Lake Dolphin area......

Russ: uh-huh.

Alana: nobody around.

Russ: ahhh.

Alana: and there I am in my swimsuit.....

Russ: uh-huh.

Alana: and I come out of the water and I'm bending over, I'm washing my flippers off and my facemask and my mouth pad and somebody starts rubbing their hand up my crotch.

Russ: ohh.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: who's this?

Alana: Teene.

Russ: oh. Hey, see the picture I got of you?

Alana: uh-huh. Yeah, what's it doing in the chair though?

Russ: well it's next to the chair actually.

Alana: hmm.

Russ: I need to get a frame for it.

Alana: yeah. That's why I wanted to know if you're coming over tonight.

Russ: oh, certainly.

Alana: she's in the next room and according to Kiri, she should be getting out in about 20 minutes and then she's got another channeling session an hour after that. So we're going to use the room next door.

Russ: she's a busy girl.

Alana: uh-huh, Wednesday nights are her busy night. Now you had a question for me?

Russ: I asked it.

Alana: oh you did? Okay.

Russ: about the dolphins.

Alana: uh-huh.

Russ: right.

Alana: anyway, I'm going to have to race back to the apartment.

Russ: okay. Where am I going to meet you at?

Alana: I'll be back at the apartment in about an hour.

Russ: I know. Okay, I'm going to have a cup of tea.

Alana: no, make that two hours.

Russ: two hours.

Alana: uh-huh.

Alana: I'll see you later dear.

Russ: all right love, bye.

Alana: uh-huh.


(Kiri is back for the final few minutes of tape left)


Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: hello dude.

Russ: yo dudette.

Kiri: almost finished.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: how come I keep finding pictures of all my girls, and Mark can't find a single one....?

Kiri: because he's a damn perfectionist.

Russ: oh bloody hell, just use a little imagination.

Kiri: he's a perfectionist.

Russ: that's fine.

Kiri: when it comes to portraits and stuff, they've got to look just so.

Russ: well, unless he learns how to paint real soon, I don't see how he is going to get one of you girls.

Kiri: yeah, true. Yep, that bikini bottom of hers was wedged nicely.

Russ: one of your designs, I'm betting?

Kiri: yes it was.

Russ: hmm, well that's just professional courtesy.

Kiri: no, it wasn't intended to wedge like that.

Russ: oh, so you have to redesign it, huh?

Kiri: uh-huh maybe, next design. And I've got my summer designs out.

Russ: oh, do you now?

Kiri: uh-huh and I'd like to talk to Leenna about them.

Russ: I'll work on getting her here.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: I can't promise anything, she's getting pretty close to her term too.

Kiri: yeah, September, right?

Russ: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh, and.......


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