Archivist Notes: It's hard to not be amazed
each time a new channeling session tape is
transcribed and April's podcast is no exception.
An unusually large group of participants
showed up to ask questions of the
base personal so the
topics were many and
varied. Two topics stood out above the rest and they were soul
notes that were tied
in with the
area a person was raised
in and Tuella,
a higher dimensional
entity that was
a walk-in to the body
of Thelma Terrell.
The mass evacuation
of earth is
of Tuella and
so Omal tells
us of his
with her. Some
the other topics
us cover a
in the time allowed
by the tape's
night was Tia
who was cut
short to make
room for the necessary
night to be
off though she
got into a
make several dirty
bombs had gone
the world was
where it had
gone. Tia kept
but we came
to an answer.
One of our 3rd
making a move
and wanted some
by Tia. That
same topic would
picked up by
Omal whose far
concept of soul
a person to a
that though he
revisits the question
how the U.S.
news media had
opted not to
news and why.
With that, it
is the move
that is reviewed
and Omal once
with how a
land of their
birth and feel
in areas that
being in an area
where the vibrations
as well as a fact
about the Navajo
Nation that is
true about all
people on the
mixes in a
lessons for us
We know from previous
cloud at this
up side one
with a talk
had come up he
was able to
a return to the
topic of Tuella
blows away the
inside look at
the Council of
plans for the
of the planet
in the event
of a mass extinction
come as a surprise
but the way
they came to
sheds a light
a colony ship
taking on. Kiri
place in the channeling
to give us
for her but
first gives us
a clearer view
of the effects
once inside the
to us than Omal's
that it is a gray
area we go
into as Skip
of a previous
life. The fact
that it is his
earth has a
lot to do with
engine Kiri is
to help him
out with an
worthy of Gene
was. We next
hear from Kiri
on the base and
happen with giving
us too much
the filter of
what goes on the
on to channel.
We quickly go
over how my
referred me to
she had been
in my head as
I was getting
on my skis
define each of
in that skill.
Tia comes on to
get us to the
end of the
tape but not before
into Kiri's arm
with her nails
had not Kiri
made a joke
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(Tia comes on and gets
the crowd under control)
Skip: oh that’s all right, we’ll…..
John: I take full responsibility for
Tia: we apologize for tonight’s delay
and we will now start the tape properly and the
session. Tonight present is Skip, Skip, say hello.
Tia: also present is Bonnie, Bonnie,
Tia: also present tonight is Larry,
Larry, say hello.
Tia: also present tonight, Johnny.
Tia: (starts speaking French)
John: your French sucks.
Tia: yeah but actually I was using the
translator, first time I’ve had the opportunity to
John: oh, so that was a good tool for
you to use.
John: now are you channeling with
people in France and Europe at this point?
Tia: not me no.
John: okay, are……..well okay well I
don’t want to waste any questions.
Tia: you don’t want to walk in……yeah.
Also present tonight now that he’s arrived……..
Russ: Russ!!!!!!! Hi Tia, how you
John: that’s why I didn’t put the tape
on sooner okay?
Russ: and a greetings and
felicitations to you my love.
Tia: pull up a pew, sit down, behave.
Russ: as if I could do anything but.
Tia: oh yeah right, how many times has
Russ misbehaved in a channeling session?
Russ: oh please.
Skip: now wait a minute, wait a
minute, wait a minute, I can’t count that high.
Russ: it's nice to get support from my
Larry: (laughs) Russ, everybody’s
against you tonight, you know that.
Tia: now, where was I? Oh yes,
questions Skip, it depends on how much you really
want to succeed.
(referring to a
conversation that was taking place prior to the
start of the session)
Skip: well if I put enough irons in
the fire I’m liable to get one that glows.
Tia: that’s correct and succeeding the
key is, what are you prepared to do to succeed?
Skip: help just about anybody and
Tia: that’s the spirit, that’s exactly
what I wanted to hear. Not what you said before of
you don’t know, you weren’t sure but, a positive
answer. You have to make the positive, correct
choice to achieve your goals. I’m not saying that
you will succeed, I’m not saying that you won't
succeed but your chances…..
Skip: I know, I know, I thought maybe
I could slip one in there on you.
Tia: but your chances of succeeding
are higher if you maintain that positive attitude.
Skip: got you.
Tia: next question.
John: let’s discuss the situation with
the new Russia.
John: okay? Or Soviet Union or however
you want to put it about the missing plutonium.
John: well I do believe it poses a
potentially difficult situation for the rest of the
John: including that, including the
Tia: not only is it plutonium, it’s
also uranium, strontium-90 and I believe a few other
chemicals. All of them combined together can make a
very nice if somewhat messy atomic bomb or several.
John: that’s what I’m referring to.
John: okay? Who’s got it, can you tell
us who’s got it?
Tia: no I can’t, I can hint, you have
to draw your own conclusions. The people that have
got it know that they’ve got it but it is various
shady leaders in that area of a certain not
necessary political persuasion but have some
political manipulation and have experience in
John: okay, I don’t want to hog too
many questions here, Palestinians?
Tia: not yet.
Tia: not yet but there is a connection
John: how about Northern Ireland?
Tia: no, they can’t afford the price.
Russ: it’s the communists.
John: yeah, what’s a communist
Tia: they were…….
Russ: it’s the Russian mafia and the
communist movement are kind of working together on
that one if I remember right.
Tia: yes and no.
Russ: so it's the Russian mafia?
Tia: let me put it this way, the
people that have it are supposed to have it but you
can’t trust them.
Russ: well the army.
Tia: no, I never said that.
Russ: no you didn’t but in Russia you
can’t trust the army, they can go
either way depending on the political winds.
Tia: that’s right, any more questions?
Bonnie: I’m going to make a move to
Oklahoma, do you think that’s a good one?
Tia: that is your own choice, I’m
restricted on saying what you should and shouldn’t
do but you have to weigh the options concerning what
is best for you, what is best for your growth. Have
you learned all that you need to learn in a
particular area? What do you wish to do once you get
there, where are you prepared to go? I mean there’s
all these options you have to weigh, I’m not saying
that you should or shouldn’t, what I’m saying is…..
Bonnie: well I’m going to come back
and forth, it's not like I’m just going to stay
Bonnie: plus I have business deals
Tia: uh-huh, okay so in other words
you’ve already made up your mind on what you wish to
Bonnie: well mostly.
Bonnie: not positive.
Bonnie: I’m never positive until I do
Tia: uh-huh but there’s also the thing
to remember is your spiritual growth and I think
that hold on, I’m having something whispered in my
Bonnie: oh oh.
Tia: uh-huh, okay yes that your
spiritual growth would benefit from the connection
Bonnie: hmm, that’s good.
Tia: uh-huh, I believe there's
something to do with a buffalo in that area as well.
Bonnie: I have a white buffalo as a
Tia: uh-huh, but it has something to
Bonnie: remember that time I brought
it in with me?
Tia: uh-huh, but what…..
Bonnie: and Ashtar said, "what’s the
white buffalo doing in here?"
Tia: yeah but what I’m saying is that
there is in that particular area certain indigenous
ancestral groups that have quite powerful
Tia: I’m trying to think of the
correct earth terminology. But......
Tia: yeah I suppose you’d call them
Shaman, we'd call them priestesses where I come
Bonnie: we call them Shamans.
Tia: uh-huh, the priestly class.
Tia: okay, I’ve got to put on the next
person…..(sighs)…..the ring mistress gets
told what to do, this is not fair.
(Omal takes over
Omal: greetings and
John: greetings Omal.
(everyone says hi)
Omal: please do an
introduction for me.
Russ: well Omal, you already know Skip
Omal: of course.
Russ: and this is Bonnie, the young
lady next to him….
Russ: and then Larry.
John: and I’m Johnny, I'm
the man who.......
acknowledged your presence initially.
let us get down to questions and answers.
Russ: oh I’m opening the floor up to
the guests……no please, feel free. Okay well I guess
Omal: I was about to
say, do not all speak at once.
Russ: well now Tia was mentioning the
problems in Russia right now.
Russ: and how they relate to us……well
not how do they relate to us but what’s going on.
Now what I’m asking is, how do they relate to us for
example, is this something to keep an eye on in the
future as a potential threat to world peace or is
just something that is more of a local issue?
stepping in too many gray areas, the best bet would
be to watch what is going on carefully. You might
not have heard it on your popular press, in fact I
think it is very unlikely that you would’ve heard it
on your popular press.
Russ: no it was in the popular press
actually, Mark got it and showed it to me I think.
Omal: yes but you
have not heard it on your Fox Network or
NBC or CNN or ACB or any of those other networks. I
do not even believe that it has been in
your newspapers. The
only places I’ve seen it in are the Sunday Times (United
Kingdom), Le Figaro which is a French
newspaper, Itar Tass which is a Russian newspaper
where it was only briefly reported and a few other
European newspapers such as the Express,
Pravda and a few German newspapers. Now the question
should be why has it not been
mentioned in your United States newspapers?
Russ: hmm, good question.
Omal: or on the
Russ: I don’t know.
John: why? That’s my question, why is
Omal: I feel that it
is not being mentioned for the simple reason that
the infrastructure of your news agencies is more
concerned with the flamboyant activities of
political figures. They are more concerned with what
you might call brushfire wars and making people feel
sorry for other people. Something as serious as this
is not being mentioned because it is not perceived
as entertaining and they do not wish to
alarm people over something that they feel is
unimportant. This is a big mistake, it is something
that is very important.
John: okay now is it the media that
you’re speaking of or is it the government, our
government suppressing this information?
Omal: if your
government was suppressing it, it would not be in
such news formats as the Times, Figaro
or even Pravda.
Omal: it is your
media that is suppressing it.
John: thank you.
Omal: next questions
Russ: go ahead guys.
Omal: let me pick
somebody at random.
Omal: in the middle.
Skip: no that’s you.
Bonnie: no honey,
Omal: on the seat of
three in the middle.
Bonnie: oh.....oh I
see. Well I was asking Tia
about Oklahoma, I was going to go to
Oklahoma, my children are there, my grandchildren
Bonnie: and I was just wondering if it's
a good move, good for my business…..
Omal: what nation
Bonnie: Indian nation.
Omal: yes but which
one? I believe there are many different….
Bonnie: while there’s 64 nations
there, it's Cherokee mostly.
Omal: yes, very
spiritual race if my memory serves me correct.
Bonnie: right, very much yes.
rings but the conversation has been removed)
Omal: okay, let us
continue. Yes it is, it is a spiritual growth which
you may find useful. As Tia stated, we cannot say
whether you should or you shouldn’t but it is
necessary to realize that a spiritual growth is
something that will lead to other things. I believe
it is in a open area where there is a lot of flat
Bonnie: yes, very flat lands.
Omal: yes, at one
time that was part of an inland sea, I should say
approximately 80,000 of your years ago.
Omal: so there are
lots of interesting things and energies that have
been deposited by water which is why your particular
nation is attracted to that area.
Omal: so it is
necessary to feel the energy that when you go back
Bonnie: I do feel it when I go back
that I enjoy the people more.
Omal: yes they
are……well it is your family.
Bonnie: oh yes.
Omal: yes and
it is a feeling of being at one with the land.
Omal: it is
something that the particular races of that area
have an affinity for is protecting their land......
and the land is very key and important to them.
Omal: you not being
of a race that was descended or a nation that was
descended from a mountainous area, you tend to feel
a little bit at loss in an area that is
Omal: you feel
trapped and restricted by having so many trees. This
in itself can manifest itself in other ways, ways
that are negative, the
fear of being trapped within, sometimes people will
seek a retreat. Once you are back in an area where
you can spiritually develop as you are
supposed to, then you become more even and maintain
a level keel and therefore are not attracted to the
negative sides of life as it were. You do not look
for a retreat from what is, you tend to be able to
look more towards it and go, “okay, I do not need to
retreat, I can stand here and let it come on and
experience and feel the manifestations and
the power of the ground." That I see as good but
also being able to overcome these fears and
retreating within yourself from the fears of the
trees and the mountains and an area that you’re not
Bonnie: hmmm, thank you.
welcome. Next, or do I have to pick a
Bonnie: pick a victim,
pick him over here, Larry?
Omal: I believe you
want to talk to somebody on a technical nature
Bonnie: yes, that’s him.
Larry: you’re speaking to me?
Omal: yes correct.
Larry: not necessarily.
I do believe however that what I would like to have
you do is expand on the differences if you will
between your perception of, for instance in Bonnie’s
case, the differences between mountainous areas and
flatland areas and what you would perceive as relates
to my perception of that or my
acceptance of that.
Omal: okay the
mountainous area I’m referring to is obviously this
area here within the limits of the Sierra Madre’s,
is that correct, the correct name of the mountains?
Larry: that’s the correct name.
Omal: and the
Bitterroot Mountains, from those over there to the
far ones over…..that have the fault system that runs
underneath of the Carson Valley and up. Sometimes
people have a difficulty with the spiritual
nature of such a different vibrational frequency. It
is like on an oscilloscope, you have a low-frequency
that has deep troughs and then you have a very high
frequency that is very short, sharp troughs that are
almost a flat line. Now the spiritual nature of
somebody that is born and raised in a
flat area is that of a very high frequency that has
very few troughs and valleys, very much like the
area that they're born in.
Omal: somebody that
has very deep troughs and very deep spiritual
vibrations have as the surrounding area high
peaks and low peaks of great depth. A spiritual
difference makes it hard for a person to adjust to
an area. Some people do it very well, others do not.
This occurs because the spiritual development is
difficult sometimes, they have lessons that they
need to learn to overcome within the areas that they
send themselves to such as this area and I believe
Bonnie has had some difficulties adjusting in the
Omal: how this
relates to you, I believe you are from an area that
is in a valley bowl to the South
of here I believe or Southeast......Southwest.
Omal: and you have a
I would say more of a spiritual level
that is flat but rises up at the end of the note so
it is more of a gradual climb like the area that you
were raised in.
Omal: so you have
the ability to be able to adjust to whatever surroundings
you are in and this can be used to help other people
that have either a low vibrational frequency or a
high vibrational frequency. And the fact
that you have both low going towards high or the
opposite way around sorry, high going towards low
with the deep troughs and the high peaks
means that it is easier for you to match and adjust
your soul notes. I believe in the past we have
discussed soul notes and being able to match. Larry
has the ability because of his variation in
soul notes to do this so it is helpful to be able to
direct somebody by using your adjustments in soul
notes to match theirs.
Larry: thank you.
Omal: you’re welcome,
Skip: yes, I’ve got a problem.......quit.
had been poking him)
Omal: yes I see your
Bonnie: now, now.
Skip: I don’t know if I was born in
the flatlands or in the mountain but
I know I was raised between the flatlands and the
Omal: Idaho I
Skip: no, no Montana.
Skip: part of it, the other part was
Midwest Ohio and that’s flatland right down
to the ground.
Omal: yes, it
doesn’t quite go down to sea level I believe.
Skip: not quite but it’s pretty close.
Omal: the Montana
Badlands springs to mind for some reason.
Skip: no it’s in the Rocky Mountains….
Omal: ahh, you would
be from the area that is called I cannot think of
its name but it’s very high, craggy peaks........Russ?
Omal: no not the
Skip: no it’s the Rocky Mountains
Omal: yes but there
is a particular area that is…
Russ: the Great Divide?
Omal: no, it is not
quite the Great Divide. Oh
well never mind, it will come to me. But the fact
that you have spent so much time in this area would
give you a clue with your deductive ability. It is
not as quite as craggy and pinnacally as the young
mountains that are rising in that area.
Skip: well I’ve always made the
comment, ”I’d rather shovel snow than
Omal: what does that
Skip: I like the mountains better than
I do the flatlands.
Omal: which tells
Skip: I don’t know, I'm comfortable
vibrational frequencies, you have that deep note
vibrational frequency which leads me to believe that
you are more comfortable in this environment.
Omal: so therefore
you have the vibrational notes of
somebody that is born and raised in a mountainous
area but there are the tendencies in there for the
lower troughs as well which makes me think that it
wasn’t as bigger peaks and troughs, it may have been
in the foothills of that area. Does that help?
Skip: yeah, thank you.
Omal: okay, back to
our wayward, wandering monk over here.
Russ: are we on a particular subject
or am I…… can I wander around?
Skip: ask around, wander wherever you
Russ: working on shielding…….
Russ: okay? And I want to get a little
information on various details of shielding
and how to work with it a little bit.
Russ: okay? For
example, if I want to block something out to the
maximum extremes that I can okay?
Russ: I’m going to lay in a
single shield and start it rotating one direction.
Russ: put a mirror finish on it.
Russ: start another two, both rotating
in opposite directions from the first one…
Russ: well no the third
one would be on the same direction as the first one
and the one in the middle would be in an opposite
Omal: yes I
understood what you meant.
Russ: then I’d have the
three layered shields on top of that. Now each of
the first two layered shields have little bumps on it
right? Like little…..
Russ: points and then the
last would have like a static screen?
Omal: yes which is
basically a hissing sound that you project from
Russ: correct. Now when I’m working
with this……..okay the first question I got is, to
increase power on the shields if necessary, do I
increase energy output from myself or do I draw it
from around me to strengthen it?
Omal: you would have
to project from outside, you would have to project
to it because you create the shields and you have to
project to it. You would be able to suck in energy
until you were sealed in. If you were using dome
shields as opposed to spherical shields, spherical
shields protect your feet as well as your head so
therefore if you are creating shields and your
isolated from the ground totally, how can you
therefore suck energy in? If you suck energy in,
what is happening?
Russ: you’re basically opening up your
Russ: okay, the first three are
spherical and the last three are domed.
Russ: now, so if you’re projecting
energy out, you only have a limited supply of energy
before you start wearing down.
Russ: therefore your shielding has
only a limited amount of…….
Russ: correct. Now how do you get
around that, is there a way to do so?
Omal: no, apart from
building up your stamina and reserves.
Russ: oh, so practice.
Omal: yes, that is
what we have said in the past.
Russ: correct. Okay, my next question
is concerning bending the dome shield to bring it
into a point that you want to conform it to.
Russ: now the dome shields normally
are solid but that sometimes isn’t a functional
form. Can you instead go ahead then and
bring it in to closer to your inner shields and bend
the domes around and still have them work
Omal: you can have
whatever shape you wish as a shield as we have
stated in the past, a dome shield works
best because you apply pressure to one point and it
is spread evenly over the area.
Russ: I see, so it’s best to keep the
domes as domes….
Russ: not to warp them at
all. You can warp your spherical shields as
much as you want…..
Russ: the dome shields maintain those
Omal: yes, that is
the easiest form to produce.
Russ: hmm, okay thank you.
John: ahh yes, you touched…..we
touched on the photon belt, photon cloud…..
John: I don’t like to use the term
belt since you corrected me on that okay? I’d like
to touch on that subject again and with our planet
passing through this photon cloud, is it
going to react with the outer atmosphere?
Especially I’m concerned with the outer atmosphere
of the planet and the magnetic field and the
Omal: there will be
an increase in aurora borealis and the aurora borea
australis. These would be the only positive
manifestations, an increase in interactivity with
solar activity will make for some certainly
spectacular Northern and Southern Lights
but other manifestations? No not really.
John: is that in direct reaction with
Omal: no it is more
the magnetic field of the planet.
John: but isn’t the magnetic field and
the ionosphere similar as far as their…..aren’t they
directly related or am I mistaken?
Omal: the ionosphere
is part of the chemical makeup of the planet. It is
the outer atmosphere that holds a little bit of
oxygen but not very much and other chemicals
possibly ozone and so on. So the ionosphere is more
part of the planet’s self-cleaning mechanism. It is
maintained its shape by the magnetic field of your
planet so the magnetic field does play a little,
small part in the ionosphere but not much. It is
just holding it in place.
I have to depart soon, I will take one question from
each of you please. Let us start at
the far end and work our way back down.
Russ: that’s you Skip.
John: that’s you Skip.
Russ: I’m pretty close to him see.
Omal: at the far end.
Skip: I’m out of it tonight for some
reason or another. I don't know what to ask you
tonight Omal, my mind's running a
hundred miles an hour.
Omal: I do not know
what you wish to know.
Skip: well that’s it, I don’t have any
Skip: my mind's just…..
Omal: okay young
Bonnie: I’m trying to think of
something myself. I don’t have anything
to ask either.
Omal: okay, young
Larry: well thank you for the
Omal: you are young
compared to myself.
Bonnie: how old are you?
Omal: put it this
way, I remember watching the Northern Lights
in a land that no longer exists on your planet due
to the fact that it is…..well it does exist but not
as I recall it. It is now high peaks.
Bonnie: I do have a question on
Omal: be careful.
Bonnie: okay let’s see…..
Omal: Skip, please
fill the young lady in on the joke.
Skip: no that’s okay, go ahead.
Bonnie: well I guess I missed
something along the way here, I haven’t
been here in at least a year.
Omal: as you are
new, I will let it slide on your case.
Bonnie: ohhh, well
Bonnie: the Navajos believe that they
were descended from aliens.
Omal: did they?
Bonnie: they do….
Bonnie: yes. I've read a
book on that, I was just wondering, it did make
sense to me. It’s called, the book is called “My
Ancestors are Alien” and what is your…..
Omal: the answer is
Bonnie: I thought so.
Omal: okay young
Larry: can you be specific as relates
to answers if there is a specific question?
Omal: yes but not on
a personal nature and not if it is interferes with
the growth and development of individuals or your
planet or of a technical nature that would give a
edge in development.
Larry: okay, I’ll try to be as general
as I possibly can.
Omal: okay, you may
have noticed that some of my answers and answers of
other individuals tend to be a little bit vague and
generalized. We cannot tell you for example how to
build a cold fusion
engine. We cannot tell you to do something, you have
to come to that decision yourself. We cannot tell
you what is going to happen to you tomorrow........proceed.
Larry: if I were to make a major move
in my life, could I presume that the result of a
major move in my life could be extremely positive?
Omal: yes there is
that potential, it depends on how major. Sometimes
the necessary upheaval for a major
change in itself is an experience
that is a learning experience which will throw you
on a path that at first will seem wrong and bad and
things will not go according to plan because you are
not fully adjusted to such a
radical change but over a period of time, the
necessary struggle in the early stages, the
difficulties and so on would make you stronger if
you stick to the path. If you say to yourself, “this
is too hard, I cannot do this” and back down, then
you have not achieved what you wish to do. People
often make the mistake of charging into something
and then saying, "this is too hard" and not
finishing or following through. Some of the hardest
advances or the most wonderful advances needed a lot
of work, a lot of trying and trying and trying until
they achieved their goal. An example is the
Manhattan Project. Up to the first
initial test of the atomic bomb, they did not know
what the atomic bomb would really do. Whether the
chain reaction that would be caused, whether it
would stop once the fuel had been expelled or if it
would continue and keep on going and use up other
fuels creating a nonstop chain reaction. They were
pretty certain that that would not happen but they
weren’t sure that it would happen. Fortunately it
did not happen, obviously everybody is still here and
the chain reaction stopped once the fuel had been
expended. Making a major change in
one’s life is a little bit like that.
do not know for certain what the end results will be
but, like the atomic bomb, the end result could be
very beneficial if you stick to the path. After all,
the atomic bomb has given
you electricity, it has given
you ways of curing cancers and a major change is
like this. From a struggle that is hard and
sometimes very difficult, as long as you follow
through, it will achieve the goal that you wish.
Sometimes better than you wish.
Larry: thank you.
John: yeah I want to touch on the
photon cloud again just to help to clarify it for
my mind and the relationship of the planet and
our solar system passing through the photon cloud
along with our planetary magnetic field along with
the ionosphere as being……let's see, I don’t want ask
too many questions, how many push-ups am I going to
get out of this? Okay…….
you were asked to ask one question, for each extra
question the price is ten
for each question.
John: okay, well did I ask one or two
Omal: no, you
haven’t asked any yet.
John: I haven’t asked any yet. Okay,
I’d like to know the relationship between our planet
passing through the photon belt and the reaction
with the ionosphere and the magnetic field and the
whole correlation and how it interacts with us.
Omal: worded very well
to get maximum effect out of one question……
laughter breaks out)
John: you’ve taught me very well Sir
Omal: that was most
certainly a scramble to ask one question but leave
it wide open to have it answered very deeply.
Basically in essence what is going to happen is that
the ionosphere and the magnetic field will continue
to react in the way that it has done in the past. However,
the intereaction between the photon
cloud and the sun will heat the ionosphere which
will react with the magnetic field causing huge
sparks, more commonly referred to as the Northern
and Southern Lights. This
will put on bursts of energy being
displayed in a myriad of different colors that will
be visible lower than is normally seen. There may be
even instances or a instance of lucky individuals
looking to the North and seeing the
and then turning and looking to the South
seeing Northern Lights
but these will be people in the mid-latitudes,
nearer to the equator than the Tropic of Cancer and
Capricorn. The chemical reaction with the heating of
the ionosphere interacting with the magnetic field
and the photon cloud will create these flashes of
brief energy. My projections are that there will
only be one major reaction and those lucky
individuals will be in for a treat that will not be
seen again for many thousands of years. The ions in
the ionosphere are basically bumping and rubbing and creating
the necessary chemical reactions for the clouds to
generate the charge necessary for these flashes of
energy. In return, you’ll be treated to as I said a
Russ: okay, this will be a little bit
long also. On the Internet I
had a conversation with a lady who sent
me an e-mail…..
Russ: she is a avid reader of Tuella.
Russ: the unacknowledged scribe of
in it she says that the evacuation of the planet
from Ashtar Command due to the upcoming pole shift
is a fact and since I am basically saying no, that’s
not going to happen in our
lifetimes, I’m basically the antichrist at that
Russ: and well because, I’m quoting
Russ: now I told her that no, what
actually is going to happen is the only evacuation
will be our ascendancy to sixth dimension which is
as you’ve said will take place due to apparent
Russ: in which a person ascends
to a higher dimension but their third dimensional
body is still left here.
the fact that well no, there’s not going to
be anything like a pole shift in our
lifetime but I can’t really be able to prove it or
anything until the time actually comes.
Russ: how do I deal with people like
Omal: okay, now the
problem stems from the fact of the scribe. The
scribe has sat in on meetings, Tuella…..
for the side to change, Omal picks up where he left
Tuella likes to indulge in gossip and
has sat in on meetings. Tuella,
if I ever get this out, enjoys
to gossip, reporting gossip. The
best way to describe Tuella is, yes she does have
some facts and information, yes she has sat
in on Council meetings, yes she does record what is
said but she does love to gossip
and she does love to listen to rumors and rumors and
half informations that are reported. For example, a
discussion that was held many years ago on if there
was a problem on your planet, how would it be
handled and what would be necessary to deal with it.
The option of a mass evacuation was discussed. That
was thought upon and recently decided that it would
not work due to the fact of the sheer size of the
population that would be necessary to evacuate. For
example, you have a population on your planet of
close to eight billion people, where would
we put them? How would we transport them? How would
they handle being in such a confined area where you
may have one or two million confined
to an area of no more than maybe five
miles, very cramped and uncomfortable for them. So
what do you do? Obviously you cannot evacuate that
kind of number. Do we let people die? Well
we cannot make that decision, that is something that
must be left up to them so therefore a mass
evacuation would present a problem. How you deal
with individuals that have had this
information given to them is that you smile and you
say, “well certainly you have heard information that
does have a lot of merit to it but it is a matter of
time and logistics to see what will actually
occur.” And by answering in such an ambiguous way,
you appease them a little bit. They read into what
they hear what they wish to hear. For example, if
you say that it is a matter of time and logistics on
the amount of necessary individuals that are
evacuated, you’re being vague and ambiguous. So
therefore you do not give a straight answer but you
have told them what they wish to hear even though
you haven’t told him anything. People that listen to
things without looking for what is really said and
looking at things deeper tend to not
see things fully. They tend to see things that they
wish to see. You cannot please people like that and
it is, "oh well they have their path to walk." That
is the best way to deal and handle with those
people. Thank you.
Russ: thank you.
John: thank you very much.
Omal: thank you all for
coming, I will now depart as I have a Council
meeting to go.
Skip: thank you.
Omal: live long,
prosper and, I’ll be back.
John: yeah we appreciate your time,
(Tia comes back to turn things over to Kiri)
Skip: hi sweetheart.
Tia: (says hi in Durondedunn)
Tia: oh my, Mark’s nose is totally
stuffed up, it’s totally bunged up.
John: you want something to blow his
Tia: no, it will clear. Okay,
Tia: where did everybody go?
John: they left.
Tia: what was all that
barking about with the dogs?
John: I don't
seems to be some kind of activity that was going on
on the street behind us......
John: but I really couldn’t be honest
with the logistics.
Tia: okay, we’re going to put on the
technical expert as somebody is getting fidgety. Yeah!!!!
(Kiri slides into the
channeling field as Tia departs)
Kiri: yo dudes.
John: hey, is that you Kiri?
Kiri: now who starts off with yo
Kiri: yes, it’s me, technical questions.
John: I wanted to make sure.
Kiri: was somebody reading my page
Skip: was somebody reading your what?
Kiri: page on the thingy out there.
John: on the Internet?
Larry: I was.
Kiri: Kiri’s manifestation, flowers,
Bonnie: yeah, that was Larry.
Larry: that was me.
Kiri: what else do I do? Engineering,
that’s my field.
Kiri: uh-huh, okay questions, anybody.
John: all right the photon belt okay?
I’ve discussed it with you and Omal and I don’t want
to dwell on this but it is a very interesting
situation that our planet is going through, our
solar system is going through......
John: and your reactions to the……will
you stop smelling Mark’s feet?
Kiri: I was just touching his nose
with his feet.
John: all righty then, you're throwing
me off (that gets a few chuckles). Okay
I would like to discuss or understand better…..
John: and there’s a lot of people out
here that are really, really interested in the
photon belt, not just me okay? And the spiritual
ramifications of us passing through the belt.
Kiri: well what is happening basically
is that the positively charged photons are basically
interacting with your body’s auras and it’s
increasing the vibrational frequency, which is
different from what was discussed earlier on about
vibrational notes, and it is bringing it up
to a higher level so that the opening of pathways
for individual’s abilities is also being affected.
You bring up the frequency right, and what happens?
It brings it up higher so therefore it’s more open,
it’s more open you can do more things. For example,
my field coercion, manipulating people to do what I
want them to do or what I think is best for them.
take a coercer that is in tune with the surroundings
and the increase in the positively charged protons
and they can do a lot more than they have done
in the past. They can manipulate people much more
subtly. Have you noticed that recently Russ?
Kiri: well you wouldn’t notice much
would you? You got your head stuck
out the window. But the…….
(everyone but Russ
Kiri: but the photons are interacting
with the energy field that surrounds you and is
making you more spiritually higher.
John: okay thank you very much.
Kiri: okay no problem.
Kiri: you have a question, you're
sitting there very patiently……well actually you’re
sort of like bouncing around like one of
those rubber balls that you…power balls.
Skip: I want to know something and I
don’t think you give me an answer but I want to know
Skip: how in heck can you fuse life
with how can I say this? With inanimate objects to
give off power? This engine that I seen is driving
Kiri: you can, you can, there is a….
Skip: uh-huh, tell me about it.
Russ: you put a hamster in a treadmill
Skip: what? No, no, no, this engine
was moving partner and it was…..
Kiri: uh-huh, alive.
it was alive.
Skip: and it was
powering a ship.
now, put it this way, you take a…..I’m not quite
sure what you call them but they root around in the
ground, they snuffle a lot and they smell rotten and
tend to lie around in their own mess
Kiri: yes thank you, that’s the word,
I knew it was a three letter word, I thought it
started with H.
John: no, well hog or pig would be
John: pig is what you’re using.
Kiri: okay now, what fuel does a pig
Skip: so does human beings.
Kiri: correct. Now, what can
you do with methane?
Skip: burn it.
Kiri: which does what?
Skip: creates heat.
Kiri: which in turn can be used for?
Skip: oh a lot of things.
Kiri: uh-huh. So you see how an
organic, living being can actually power something.
Skip: no, no.
Kiri: I know, I know, I’m taking a
very, very simple…..
Skip: yeah I know what you’re doing to
me, you're leading
me down the garden path is what you’re doing.
Kiri: I’m leading you to the goal.
Skip: yeah okay go ahead.
Kiri: now let’s take the next logical
step. Obviously you would
want something that takes out the middle part right?
That instead of it coming out and then being
fermented and giving off the gas, you want to take
that part out, you want to have some creature that
goes from eating something to giving off the power.
Kiri: okay, what would you do?
Skip: that’s what I’m asking you.
Kiri: I really can’t tell you without
Omal turning around on me and saying, “pack your
gear, you're going home.”
Skip: what I’m trying to get at….
Skip: is I’ve seen this engine.......
Skip: and it was alive.
Kiri: yeah, yeah, I know the engine
that you're referring to.
Skip: and it wasn’t stationary.
Skip: and how can you make an engine,
it’s beyond my comprehension.
Kiri: no it’s not.
Skip: yes it is.
Kiri: no it’s not. Okay, I need a
guinea pig, Russ, stand up.
(that gets everybody
Russ: oh Jesus, why me all the time?
John: well you’re here, if she
would’ve chose me I would of stood up.
Kiri: okay Russ has had fuel earlier
Kiri: okay, now we’ve taken out the
middle part, Russ walk. Take a few steps, okay that
will do. Okay Russ is an engine that has just moved
so you get a living engine right? I.e. this
gentleman here right? You’ve got the combustion
chamber which is the stomach right?
The energy that was the protein that he ate earlier
on has been transferred into movement.
Kiri: okay, now what you have to do is
you take a……you can sit down, you’re done. Let’s
give him a big round of applause.
(Kiri's claps are the only
Kiri: okay but basically what is
happening is that you take a entity, a being right?
That you say to it, “okay you can do this right? You
can power this. In return we will
give you what you want as long as you give us what
we want.” How the engine achieves the return in
favor.........for example let’s say it needs
a vessel to transport it. You build it a vessel to
take it from point A to point B and in
return for building it, let’s say you want to go to
Aldebaran right? You have to say to it, “okay we
built you this, you take us to Aldebaran and then
you’re free to go.” So you build up this
relationship with this entity. You give it food to
power itself and in return it takes you where you
wish to go.
Russ: it's symbiotic.
Kiri: it’s a symbit…..thank you, a
symbiotic relationship between the engine and the
people that are in control of it. Now, how it works.
Basically the power source is the
excreted waste, the power stream that comes out and
moves the vessel or the engine is basically what’s
left over after it’s eaten. What it’s basically
doing is instead of just giving off a nasty order,
it’s using that to achieve a goal, it’s as simple as
that. The technical side is more of a medical thing
actually that a medic would be better to answer it
than myself. I understand the basics, I understand
how it works and I understand how to repair the
problem but when it comes to the whys,
I’m at a little bit at a loss. I could
tell you exactly how it works, all the chemical
reactions and everything but again Omal would look
at me and go, “you’re out, you’re going home" if I
sat down and told you so I’ve got to be very careful
what I say here.
Skip: I understand dear. Okay, thank
Kiri: yeah no problem, any more
to whistle after a time)
Skip: time to go down the mountain.
Kiri: yes, I was noticing
that you're getting a little agitated there.
Bonnie: he’s tired.
Kiri: okay, you guys are free to go.
Skip: thank you darling.
Kiri: you’re welcome.
Skip: good night darling.
Kiri: good night.
Russ: I’ll pause the tape.
Bonnie: goodnight Tia.
Kiri: I’m not going to get up because
Skip: that's fine.
(the tape pauses and
Kiri: when Omal says jump we jump,
when Omal says finish we finish, when Omal do not
answer that question, we don’t answer it. All these
channeling sessions go before Omal’s staff.
analyze it and anything that they think might be
harmful goes before Omal, he
reviews it and decides. For example, if I was to
sit down and tell you to do this
and to do that and it got before
Omal and Omal looked at it and said, “this is bad,
Kiri has broken certain rules and ethics.”,
then I would be bound to obey what Omal’s decision
is. If he said that I was not to channel ever again,
then I would not channel ever again. If it was….
John: what kind of punishment are you
looking at, are you looking at the
Kiri: oh no, no, no.
if you give me more information than what you’re
supposed to okay? I mean is Omal going
to ban you from channeling with
us, for helping us?
Kiri: I don’t think…..I don’t think…..
Russ: that would be
Russ: for example, let’s say she gives
me or as she has done before technical information
that slipped out.
John: right, right.
Russ: now what happens is Karra, who
controls my every features will basically deny me
the ability to put that on to a webpage or be able
to reproduce that in any way…..
Russ: because Omal will say do this
and Karra will say okay.
John: okay, so if I’m understanding
you correctly, if Kiri gives you more information
than she should okay?
John: and you try and put that
information on the Internet, Karra will intervene
and stop you from putting on that
Russ: oh no, she would basically blank
out my mind.
Kiri: yeah, she will stop Russ from
putting it down.
Russ: I would forget all about that
information, I won’t have any recollection of the
fact it was mentioned.
John: what if it’s on tape?
Russ: what if I can’t find it?
Kiri: tapes have gone missing.
John: ohhhhh, that’s
the missing tapes come in.
Russ: what if I have no inclination to
find it? What if I look for it and I get bored and I
don’t want to look for it anymore?
Kiri: yeah, certain suggestions are
Russ: what if I come across it by
accident? Well there are no
John: okay, this is new to me and
excuse me and I don’t think there’s no
such thing as a foolish question if you know what I
Kiri: no but I’m not looking at any
reprimand or anything at this time. I’ve just been
told by Omal in a meeting a couple days ago that I
just had to be careful of what I said, that some
things I have said in the past have led down certain
paths which are not best walked at this time. There
is an exemption and that’s Skip
because we're trying to trip his cascading. I have
to lead him very, very carefully. I've
been told that I can lead him but to watch what I
say, to word it in a
way that is more his wording, it pulls the words out
John: now when you’re interacting with
Skip okay? I didn’t ask the question directly, Russ
didn’t ask the question directly but your
response to this man when I’m in this room, I hear
what you’re saying......
John: okay? And don’t you agree that
it could have the same response with me as it does
with him? It doesn’t matter who asks the question,
it matters how well you listen.
Kiri: yes listening is important but
Skip does have a problem that
neither of you do. Skip is experiencing his first
life on your planet, that’s why he’s having the
problems that he’s having. We’re trying to ease him
into that transition. What we’re trying to do is lead
in a particular way but not tell him that he should
do that, we leave the options open but we’re saying,
“okay, you want to access this information, this is
how you do it.” We’re not saying, “okay, this is how
you access the information, we're going to
show you how to actually pull out the information
and in doing so you will experience the
information.” We’re making him do the work which is
why he gets frustrated sometimes but what is
occurring is that Skip is experiencing and creating
all these new karmic connections and he is learning.
You’re fortunate that you’ve been around for quite a
while on your planet.
Kiri: Russ is quite fortunate that
he’s been around…….
John: yes, both of us, both
Russ and I have been around for a long time.
Kiri: yeah, the best analogy is that
this is a school. Skip is new to your school so
therefore the new kid has to be shown around as it
John: but I mean excuse me but even
though Russ and I have been around okay?
the new kid on the block so to speak okay asks a
question, well I don’t care who asks the question…..
John: the information is usually quite
Kiri: that’s correct.
John: and quite informative.
John: so if Russ asks a question or if
Skip asks a question, it doesn’t change anything. I
mean it doesn’t make my question
more important or less important…
John: but I listen and learn from the
answers that you give.
Kiri: well that’s good, that’s good.
It’s important to listen. I mean we learn a lot of
information or rather those people sitting outside
the pyramid up here learn a lot of information by
listening to what’s going on. For example, Karra is
sitting over there very quietly listening intently.
In fact I better put her on in a minute.
John: yeah she hasn’t been in tonight.
Kiri: and then Tia is sitting at the
other end listening very intently and learning and
then Teene is learning a lot at the moment as she’s
counting her toes and manipulating the equipment and
taking care of something else but she is
listening and learning. And I better hop out
and put on Karra as we are running short on time.
John: okay so Karra’s coming?
Kiri: she is on next
(The tape is paused)
(The tape is unpaused and Karra begins to channel)
Karra: okay, let us proceed.
Russ: well how did my shields hold up
tonight? That was a hard lesson, hard test, worked
Karra: you need
practice as Omal pointed out.
Russ: I need stamina practice, I mean
that is going to come with time but I mean on….
Karra: the constant
Russ: yeah and then finally it took me
to layered shields to get finally that out of the
Russ: but I was a little shocked that
I had to go to that level, I mean was he like
working me over a little extra hard tonight?
Karra: yes he was, I
believe I caught a whiff of alcohol.
Russ: on Omal?
Karra: no, not on
Russ: oh, me?
John: on me?
Karra: no, I’m
referring to something earlier on that you might not
have noticed Russ.
Russ: oh no I didn’t.
Karra: no when we
were over setting the skis.
Russ: oh you mean the beer?
Russ: what, did he think that it would
diminish my capabilities?
Karra: just a
Russ: well it was a good test, it
didn't diminish them.
Karra: yeah but….
Russ: slower reaction time possibly.
Karra: yes but in a
situation that you are in that you needed shielding
and the fact that you had slowed things down by
imbibing the alcohol when you needed them the most,
even though it was out of politeness, you have to
weigh the good with the bad.
Russ: well so in the most optimal
sense to imbibe but be able to maintain
capabilities, that’s good practice too so get like a
case of beer and practice…..
(John starts laughing)
Russ: drink some beer, practice my
Karra: we will deal
with that later......okay.
John: all right so, it is my
understanding or misunderstanding with this
conversation right here that alcohol or drug use
would limit your shielding abilities.
Karra: yes it does
and the focusing ability of shielding.
John: okay so you’re not able to focus
John: and that in turn makes your
shielding ability less functional.
Karra: correct. The
situation that you should try is getting Mark to
coerce you when you’ve been drinking heavy and
you’ll see the difference. Mind you that’s hardly a
fair test is it?
John: well I mean I like the idea of
Mark testing me when I haven’t been drinking heavily
John: but maybe of had a couple of
beers okay? Which isn't too uncommon in my life. I
mean you’re well aware….
Karra: yes I’m well
John: yeah I know but I’m not pulling
any punches or trying to deceive anyone by any means
but I feel more comfortable challenging Mark under
the influence of some alcohol and let him try and
break down my shields okay and my shielding ability
okay? Now you’re suggesting that I should do this
when I’m blind drunk?
Karra: no I’m not
saying that when you’re blind drunk….
Russ: she means to see the two sides
Karra: yes exactly,
to see both how you react with the quickness of
protecting yourself from a coercive or a coercive
coercer when you have been drinking a few drinks and
when you haven’t had any.
Russ: like that test where you drink
and go drive but then you drink a whole lot more and
then you go and drive.
Russ: well which is worse?
John: all right I just want to
Karra: Russ will
tell you that when Mark fully powers up….
Karra: he’s quite
impressive as a coercer when he powers up,
especially for a third dimensional coercer.
Russ: now Karra….
Russ: it seemed to me when I was over
there, I did not pick up any need for heavy
shielding, not like what I'd get with Omal when he’s
Karra: Omal wasn't
Karra: Omal was not
Russ: oh well he was certainly working
Karra: I think he
was just powered up.
Russ: oh, that could be it.
Karra: yeah, he’s
gone to a Council meeting.
Russ: ahh, but over there I can
generally tell if someone’s trying to drain me or
someone’s trying to coerce me….
Russ: or something like that and I can
then up my shields if I need to but from what I
recognized with that is my natural
shielding was holding up just fine in that
Karra: yes but you
have to control the controller, you see what I’m
Russ: hmm, I see what you’re talking
Karra: uh-huh, the
best person to have asked would’ve been Kiri if she
wasn't dealing with a nice cut on her arm.
by Tia during a paused period on the tape when Kiri
made a joke involving cats)
Russ: well, I think you’re doing fine
Karra: yes, Tia
actually went when she made comments about using
cats as a sled team, Tia went like that and her
claws came out.
Russ: well, touchy subject.
Karra: uh-huh, I
don’t think she meant to actually penetrate.
John: but she did cut her by accident?
Karra: uh-huh, quite
a nice clean cut actually but deep.
Russ: how’s the guy with the
Karra: he’s doing
Russ: oh good.
John: alrighty, can we talk some more
or are you running away?
Karra: well I was
about to help Teene over there who’s busy cleaning a
Russ: so professional courtesy and
John: okay, I mean I just had a
question or two in mind.
Karra: okay quick
question, quick question.
John: I mean that’s okay, if you need
Karra: no, no, no,
John: about coercion….
John: and utilizing that art, that
John: okay? Now can we use it on this
dimension as well as you use it on your dimension?
Karra: I do not
coerce, I am not a coercer.
John: you don’t utilize that technique
Karra: I do not
coerce, I do not have the ability developed to
coerce. I am a healer, I fix people up but......
John: yeah, I know you're a healer…..
Karra: hold on, hold
on, hold on, don't stop me please.
John: okay, I’m sorry.
Karra: okay, people
on your planet have all the abilities within them,
whether or not they are developed is the point. For
example, there are people that can control other
Karra: everybody can control everybody
else from time to time. Children
control their parents, lovers control each other but
somebody that can control everybody whenever they
want to is a coercer. Somebody that can heal anybody
when they want to is a healer. Somebody that can
create anything when they want to is a manifestor.
Somebody that can leave their body whenever they
want to is an astral traveler. Somebody that leaves
their body from time to time
and doesn’t know where they’re going, it just happen
is not an astral traveler. Somebody that can
manipulate and control somebody from time to time
is not a coercer. Somebody that can make somebody
better from time to time is not a
healer. Somebody that can create something from time
time is not a manifestor. I can control
people from time to time, I can
control Russ from time to time,
Russ controls me from time to time
but I would like to see Russ control Kiri, that’s a
coercer. You cannot coerce a coercer unless the
coercer is distracted or is…..
Russ: wants to be coerced.
Karra: correct. So
to answer your question, I do not coerce. You can
coerce but that is part of your makeup. Whether you
can coerce whenever you want to whoever you want to
opens up to whether or not you coerce.
Russ: Jack’s a coercer, you can always
Russ: I’m not coercer but I can
have you seen Mark coerce Jack?
Russ: yeah, I think they’re both
pretty equally matched in some points.
Karra: at some
points but I think Mark has the subtality developed,
he’s not so blatant.
Russ: no, Jack’s blatant.
Karra: uh-huh, Mark
is much more subtle and makes the person think that
it’s their idea. Jack is about as subtle as a
sledgehammer on a walnut. Okay, I’ve got to go and
patch up my sister.
Russ: bye Karra, thank you love.
John: yeah, you go fix her up.
John: thank you, appreciate it.
(Tia ends the night after having
John: and it looks like Tia.
Russ: you’ve got to watch
those things baby, file
them down to a nice….
Tia: she moved at the same time as I
Russ: well yeah but you struck out
Tia: it was an accident, it’s an
honest accident, she moved towards me.
Russ: if it was the first time I would
say, "oh bummer."
Tia: oh I’ve given her worse but the
fact that she moved and continued moving once
I’d penetrated was what shocked me. She tried…..she
should’ve stopped and pulled away but she carried on
moving in and looking at me as if it was sort of,
"just you dare."
John: now couldn’t you have touched
her and kept your nails in as you……?
THE TAPE ENDS
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