Archivist Notes: This month's podcast has
the unique distinction of having Korton replace Omal
for a change as the arbiter of all things allowed
onto the tape. (My apologies to Korton for having
included a bit more than he may have
intended but this is twenty years later.)
Having an eighth
dimensional speaker as
opposed to a seventh dimensional one
gave us the privilege of talking to
someone who saw
the birth, glory
and death of
Atlantis from his role as head of
for Ashtar Command and Hades Base.
His analytic nature
gave us insight into the
growth of the language as it
both the common Atlantean
language and individual
race languages to the
was a house
at being left
for us by Tia.
of the cat
need for a
but it got the
started with a
session had to
about each of
unique to their
the meaning of
Bunny was born
on the cusp so
we got a fifth
Just like Earth's
the signs of
over an even
of time and
person with a
starts us down
back to a
beneath the crushing
depths of the
is how Tia
lesson for the
and it is a topic
be said to encompass
One of my
discuss as an
one when I was
on a team of
DNA with that
She reminds me
of the corrupt
nature of the
work and why
against that career
in this life.
In this way
how a life
without them to
prepare for a
they would be
That is where
she ends it
and makes way
to modern speech.
alone one the
experts on the
and knows all
of the other
his telling of
us a better
of how these
words laid out
to be. Part of
of the dots on
the Dean of
this been a
held in a huge
he said about
how there is a
pride. We next
as did the
how much of
still be found
She ends the
me of all the
ritual she used
in the healing
of one of our
On side two
Karra and I go
the healing techniques
Atlantis and the
She wraps up
Carrie as an example
of how the two
brings on Leah
as the guest
is an interesting
and the cat
seems to have
taught the cat
some bad words
instead as it
cussed out our
Leah takes her
place in the
on her family
of Sirius, the
had never really
Knowing a bit
of the history
of Kiri and
also had an
origin story shared
who all have a
part to play.
At least she
is able to
give us a clue
to their love
of the sea. She
shares some of
and fish that
a part including
one that is
over six feet
to catch one
at 14 but came
as I am a Pisces
and that got
us into a
turn would carry
on through the
side two as we
sign of her
sign and Huna's
telling of the
is five hours
long, it is
because she is
also a daughter
head of the
Luckily as a
get to hear
about her life
as a student
and star of extremely
that have made
her a bit of a
holo she had
while on the
base we hear
the most about
it was still
only in the
about sex with
no story gave
us a storyline
comes on to end
was left by
giving us her
star signs and
doubled when I
sign of my
go into the
side of the
spent the rest
of the session
on how the
the years by
the changing landscape
where now it had
agreed it was
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Duration: 42:48 min. - File type: mp3
(Tia comes on to get the session going.)
Tia: first of all, stock market update. Up 2% for a grand total of up on the day 257 points blah, blah, blah and this is quite expected but it is the biggest jump ever..........but it still hasn’t recovered the 3% that it dropped. So, the stock market’s doing its thing and I’m getting tired of going over stock market things over and over again because every time I say something it happens and I’m sick and tired of it. Can you blame me? What’s that snicker for?
Russ: well it’s a dissertation, that’s a rhetorical question right?
Tia: no, it’s not a rhetorical question this time.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: are we sick and tired of me repeating basically the same predictions over and over again?
Russ: I don't know, we've only put it in once in the webpage.
Tia: well once is enough. Okay, now, dissertation let me see. Well, growth I think is a good topic to start on, growth and understanding in development and consciousness and from my standpoint of view. (One of the house cats can be heard outside the slider.) No, I won’t let a cat in that’s making those words. So where was I, oh yes……hmmm…
Tia: growth and development and being. Constantly learning is something that is very important, if you stop learning then you stop progressing and advancing. The necessary struggle involved in the growth is the important thing that by struggling you grow and in growing you want to grow more so it is necessary to have the correct kind of watering to……..and we’re getting sworn at. The correct kind of stimuli is important to continue the growth in whatever avenue is necessary for the individual to choose. In doing so, they have to set themselves goals and objectives that they are consciously aware of and by being consciously aware of these goals, you can head to the objectives which in turn are nearer to the subconscious goals on where you want to go and what lessons you feel necessary to learn. For example, let’s see……working with computers as that seems to be the topic and flavor of the week. By learning new computer systems and trying to figure out problems stimulates the mind in such a way that it becomes active and craves the necessary desire for the work to be done, as you well know Russ. Constantly learning new things is very important and by doing so, you achieve a state of constant growth which is what you want. Unlike a stock market which goes through cycles of growth and retraction, growth and retraction and I deliberately repeat that as an example that it goes through a cyclical motion whereas by growing and learning, you do not go through the cyclical motion because learning one thing leads to questing and knowledge of the next thing which in turn makes you want to go to the next thing and the next thing and it constantly keeps your mind active and being regenerated in a sort of way that gives it the necessary impetus and ommph to continue on your learning quest and you do not need to go over the same lessons over and over and over again. Certainly there are some lessons that need to be repeated and hammered home, but once they have been learned, you progress on and by progressing on you move to the next objective that you set yourself. Any questions?
Russ: yeah just being born is a basically starting off a cycle of growth correct?
Tia: correct but some people they get to a point in their lives where they no longer are interested in growth, they’re interested in only doing the same thing over and over again.
Russ: well for example, as with the stock market, doesn’t that represent some people?
Tia: yes, it is a cyclical thing that they don’t learn from.
Russ: well let’s say they grow and then they fall back and then grow and fall back and grow and fall back.
Tia: that’s not growing. If you listen to what you said, it is not growing. They grow and fall back and then they grow again. How can you grow again you haven’t learned the lessons?
Russ: well because you learn the lessons you go to a higher level.
Tia: no, no, no, no, it doesn’t……..
Russ: and then fall back again.
Tia: the stock market does not work that way, the stock market is a circular system. You cannot compare it to people because it is not a person thing, it is driven by numbers and desires and bad planning, it is not something that you can compare to people.
Tia: next question.
Russ: now with each life that you go on to…..
Russ: you start your next cycle of life.....
Russ: now is there a point where you come full circle?
Tia: not that I’m aware of. Because if you go full cycle, you’re back to the point where you have learned nothing and you need to relearn those lessons. So therefore it is not growth, it becomes circular at that point.
Russ: okay well…..
Tia: I know where you’re trying to head.
Russ: from Atlantis?
Tia: so it’s different. You see what happened right? Is that you learned all the lessons that were necessary to learn at that point.
Tia: you set into motion karmic debts that needed to be sorted out and deeds that were done were driven by the necessary lessons that had been learned in saying the waiting period, this is what I’m trying to understand myself, in the waiting period you decide what you need to learn best from all those possibilities that you have created and to deal and address each one at a time so that you can advance to the next level having learned those lessons. And if you don’t learn them, you have to repeat them so therefore the stimuli is not there to advance you see. Having learned the lessons and getting it right, you go on to the next set of lessons so it’s not constantly falling back, you’ve learned your lessons from that class so you move on to the next logical level.
Russ: the question I have though is, why is it in those lessons that we had to learn that point…..
Russ: we’re trying to relearn them now? I.e., say with psychic skills that we had and knew of quite well in Atlantis and now we’re trying to relearn those same skills again and bring them back up to that point we were where we lost them from?
Tia: no, I don’t see it that way at all.
Russ: okay my healing skills were much greater at that point then they are now.
Tia: yes but they were also very corrupted so they needed to be pruned so that you could not go charging off and become a great geneticist in this life and create a race of mutants. You see you’re not learning how to heal, you're learning how to deal with those moral issues.
Tia: is it right to tamper with genes to create a race of for want of a better word slaves, which is what you did last time?
Tia: so are you learning new lessons or are you learning how to be like you once were?
Russ: I’m trying to learn from that point.
Tia: that’s right.
Russ: but what about telepathy?
Tia: telepathy? You have telepathy.
Russ: not to the level I had it then.
Tia: but you do not need it.
Russ: well, sometimes you think you do.
Tia: you don’t really because you don’t need those lessons and the next time I get called a nasty name like that I am going to go screaming after that cat.
Russ: okay, I see what your point is.
Russ: so we’re going on to……..because it's just for some reason it’s tough to picture those lessons we learned in Atlantis as lesser lessons than what we’re learning now.
Tia: no, no, no not lesser, different.
Russ: different, okay.
Russ: so in another words, as okay Omal said, those were parts of the keys to the doors to the next evolutionary step.
Russ: and those keys opened up some locks….
Russ: that we are now attempting to get the keys to unlock the rest of the locks.
Tia: correct. Let’s look at it a different way.
Tia: okay, you have these great skills in Atlantis….
Tia: you’re very adept at using them….
Tia: but wouldn’t it be better to learn how to handle being without them?
Tia: you have them, you've had them for a long time, but what about learning to survive without them?
Russ: hmmm, okay.
Tia: you see?
Tia: now you have a whole load of new and different lessons that you need to learn. You get to a point where that you have learned to live without them and you can remember at times what it was like to live with them so when it comes time for that next logical, evolutionary step as Omal calls it you know both, you know how to live with and without them.
Russ: I see.
Tia: I use my astral travel as part of my work. Kiri’s telling me that she very seldom uses her coercion.
Russ: as part of her work?
Tia: as part of anything.
Tia: the only time that she uses her coercion is when somebody is not behaving as they should and she’s limited on time to deal with the problem in a different way.
Russ: so in essence she learned one thing on how to use without it.....
Russ: now she has learned how to use with it and she’s balancing the two together.
(Tia starts clapping.)
Russ: but now what about you? You never started off on sixth dimension, you started off on third dimension?
Tia: that is why I prefaced it by saying I’m trying to understand it as well.
Tia: you see?
Russ: right because you being here, I can’t call it an accident because it’s not, you’re obviously here.
Tia: I was probably ready but not ready. It was one of those things, heads or tails, am I ready or am I not ready? And I call heads and it landed on its tail.
Russ: okay. So…..
Tia: but you see what I’m saying?
Tia: I should imagine I could have gone either way.
Russ: okay, understandable. So you’re getting your lessons from a different source than you would of on Durondedunn?
Russ: hmm okay. And I’m getting my sources from a different place than Sirius.
Tia: correct. So we all have our paths and lessons to walk.
Tia: okay anymore questions?
Russ: yeah are you going to do the news tonight, because I’ll need to write it down actually and transcribe it….
Tia: I’ve been way too busy to do any news.
Tia: just put down I’ve been too busy with what’s going on in the market, political situations, I could go on for hours about that and I don’t want to tonight.
Tia: I could go on about economic setups, exchange rates….
Russ: don’t worry about it.
Russ: it's not exciting.
Tia: yeah. Terribly, terribly dry and boring unless you happen to be into that sort of thing which I really am not, well not tonight anyway.
(Korton substitutes for Omal tonight.)
Korton: greetings and felicitations Russ.
Russ: greetings Omal.
Korton: I hardly think so.
Korton: due to the fact that my esteemed colleague is not going to be present tonight due to the fact of meetings, I will be acting in the capacity as the censor.
Russ: well thank you Korton, this is quite an honor.
Korton: you are welcome. First of all, let us address last week. (Atlantis, After the Fall.) The person acting in Omal’s stead at the time did a okay job. (Tia) Lacking the judgment of higher consciousness, the individual did as best as she could. Miss Tenuvial (Bunny) and her boisterousness, that is acceptable as she is a guest. Okay, let me give a dissertation on the evolution of communication from simple grunts and groans to the eloquence that we have achieved and you have achieved at this point with precise underlines on certain areas. Now, primitive communication serves the same function as does verbal and mental communication, it is just done in different ways. When you look at communications that were scraped and painted on walls in the past, they are the same as words crammed into a much more different form. To understand the consciousness in the development from paintings on walls done by spraying from the mouth and from hands to communication in pictures with vocal words spoken, the development of language is not only vocally, it involves more possible stimuli then you could conceive. For example, hands, facial, eyes, body, looks, when I say looks I’m not meaning looking in a particular way with facial features in the way that an individual looks at something is what I am referring to. The necessary eloquence that is developed now also developed in the most primitive forms of communication. The consciousness in the mind and the growth and the ability to communicate has not changed that much in many thousands of years. To understand the importance of communication is the objective of communicating itself. If you do not communicate well or use words and meanings that are generally not understood or understandable or mispronounced, then the point of communication becomes irrelevant because misunderstanding and all the problems that creates will occur so communication breaks down. But, if you cannot be understood due to different linguistic abilities or pronunciations or languages, you can still be understood by the most simple and basic method of communication for somebody that is unable to communicate on a vocal level. That would be pictures, any questions?
Russ: yes, two questions to start with here. Painting as you mentioned on walls in a primitive form has kind of also gotten to a point now where as we see as in graffiti.
Russ: expressions as far as pictures being the simplest way of communicating.
Russ: which brings me to my next question which is last week Kiri discussed the split up of Atlantis from the four points to the different parts of the world they went to.
Russ: I’d like to work a little bit on the evolution of the speech patterns that came along from that split.
Korton: okay, let us address first of all the people from what you would call the Southwest area. Atlantis was broken not only up into races but up into linguistic areas. They spoke a common language but each race had its own language. A good example is Sirius. Miss Tenuvial, when she speaks has a different accent than the Tanaka girls. (Karra and Kiri.) When they talk amongst themselves they will speak in their particular dialect and area that they’re from. For all intents purposes they speak a different language. Miss Tenuvial and her sister speak in a lowland dialect and in a lowland language. The Tanaka ladies speak in a highland dialect and language when they are private but, when they are communicating with the Tenuvials, (Leah and Bunny) they speak in the common Sirian language. So that there is an ethnic pride that is maintained. The ethnic pride is there for a reason as it was on Atlantis. If you take the individuals in the low-lying Southwestern areas, they were into fishing and farming so they had naturally a different language because the sea and the land was important. For the people in the Northeastern part of Atlantis living in the highlands in the rugged area, the language of the animals and under the ground was important. So they had more of an interest in the animals and internally within the mountains and hills. The people in the central area where the capital was located had their own legal language which even today continues. If you have a group of lawyers and barristers and judges and lawmakers together, for all intents purposes they do speak a different language. Do you understand what a Baylor is?
Russ: a bailer?
Russ: a Baylor, no.
Korton: it is somebody that acts in a capacity for example to evict somebody.
Korton: let us take a simple phrasing. If a Baylor due to his action lets a individual lapse into detinue but this occurs before detinue was detinue, then the Baylor is negligent in his actions.
Korton: but, that means nothing if you do not know what a Baylor is or what detinue is.
Russ: I see.
Korton: so, the different languages on the continent or the island of Atlantis were there for a particular function, it is easier for those individuals to communicate quicker and faster vocally in their native language or their native dialect between themselves but they have a common language which they would all speak on the island as they do on Sirius. It creates racial pride in their language which strengthens the race and therefore drives the individuals harder to do better than the other races and individuals because their language is better than the other languages. Which it is not but it is still pride to believe that your languages are better than somebody else’s. For example, on your planet, people that speak a language well and precisely and are understood by a majority are thought of more highly than an individual that uses slang and jargon that is understood by a few.
Russ: understandable. What about the hieroglyphics then that you see from Egypt?
Korton: they are pictures.
Russ: uh-huh, we’re going back to…….
Korton: they tell a story, they represent ideas.
Russ: I see. So is this a preservation for the future of a history without actually having to go to the Sirian language or something similar to that……
Russ: that would get passed on?
Korton: no. The only reason that the Egyptian language was broken and being able to understand was because of one stone.
Russ: the Rosetta Stone.
Korton: correct, it had all three languages on there. If it did not have a language that was still read and understood, then the other two languages would have meant nothing. They would still be pretty pictures, people assuming that certain images represented certain things. It gives a basic understanding on what goes on.
Russ: I see, similar then to the Mayan codices.
Korton: correct. Let us go back to the most simple form of communication, the drawings on a cave.
Korton: you have a scene, you have stick figures chasing an animal throwing what appears to be spears. But what if that’s not actually the case? What if the people are throwing offerings at the creature or the objects are coming from the creature?
Korton: you see you have to think of the possible other options.
Russ: well for example from the Northeastern quarter of Atlantis….
Russ: we see instead of the hieroglyphs of Egypt, we’re seeing actual stone constructions that actually tell more in their way they were built than could huge encyclopedias.
Korton: again it is a matter of culture. A culture that lives from the land and under the land does not have much time to be able to have a well-written writing system, a well-thought-out system. So they have to do their writing in large stones.
Russ: oh yeah, I see. Hmm, then the last one that we have left then is in the Northwestern quarter….
Russ: which leaves I believe that would be the Americas.
Russ: and we don’t find much in the way of things left over except possibly mounds….
Russ: and different things throughout the Southwest.
Korton: again it is a matter of environment, understanding……it is all right. (A cat had climbed onto Mark's body.)
Korton: don’t forget, I do have a feline myself.
Russ: oh that’s right.
Korton: it is a matter of what is up environmentally……my feline does not sleep on my chest though. It is a matter of what is environmentally suited.
Korton: for example, buildings with high roofs would culturally be unsuitable in that kind of environment.
Russ: uh-huh, okay. So we almost see the Mayans and the, if you look farther south, the Incas with a higher level of education let’s say. Knowledge of calendars, knowledge of the stars…..
Russ: knowledge of hieroglyphics, knowledge of pyramids as you do in Egypt….
Russ: where the same latitude you see the same similar constructions.
Russ: then in the northern part of England, Scandinavia, Germany, Scotland you see the same kind of constructions as you see in North America.
Russ: why would that be?
Korton: obvious, as they flee you have groups from the highlands or the North part of the island getting pushed to Europe and the continent of the Americas.
Russ: ohhhh, of course.
Korton: and in the southern part you would have the people that are from the lowlands and the judicial systems and government systems being pushed to the Southeast and Southwest.
Russ: hmmm and because the Southwest was more farming you wouldn’t see the sophistication you saw in Egypt and Greece.
Korton: in the way yes, his little bit more complicated and we do not have the time really to go into detail on these matters. You must remember, I am a communicator.
Russ: correct and you have helped me a lot in the communication aspects of the split up.
Korton: thank you.
Russ: thank you Korton.
Korton: now let us address the ring mistress’s brief dissertation.
Korton: there is nothing that I can see that would cause harm at this time. She words herself very carefully. You may wish to edit her comments about the feline’s foul language.
Russ: all right.
Korton: no keep that in and put that as in footnotes with my section.
Russ: all right, communication.
Russ: and then in your section should I edit the part about the Tenuvial and Tanaka clans?
Korton: if you wish, that is your choice.
Russ: I’ll talk to Karra about it.
Russ: thank you.
Korton: I will be back. I have to do what Omal does, censoring.
(Tia makes the first transition between speakers.)
Russ: hi Tia.
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Tia: I just like how he fades out, as he fades out he points to the chair, it means he's still around. Okay, the Tenuvial family.
Tia: clan. Okay, I suppose I better put somebody from the Tanaka clan, enghh. What about the Taal clan? Well there’s only one person from that clan anyway.
Tia: I'm a clan all my own.
(Tia has a bit to say in Durondedunn.)
Tia: you got a little worried there when he was concerned about the feline weren’t you?
Russ: well I know how it disrupts the energy patterns.
Tia: you’re talking to a eighth dimensional being and you’re worried about energy patterns?
Russ: well, I know it bothers some people.
Tia: uh-huh, okay.
Russ: all right.
Tia: Tanaka, you’re on next.
(Lady Karra Tanaka joins as the next speaker.)
Russ: hello my love.
Karra: hmm, we do have our positioning on how we come on. It is as a rule Tia first, then our censor and then always myself and then it will be the guest speaker and if we have another guest speaker it will be that speaker and then last of all my sister.
Russ: that’s true.
Karra: uh-huh, it’s always the same setup.
Russ: well it’s a nice way to do it, kind of a like……
Russ: a five course meal.
Karra: uh-huh, with the light, sugary individual last. Light, sugary and syrupy. (I chuckle over the humorous description.) Okay, now where have we got to?
Russ: well we got quite a bit to work on here.
Karra: okay let’s answer your questions first.
Russ: okay, let’s see first off with the speech patterns of as we’re talking about with Korton between the two different sectors. Does that mean that when Huna is speaking in their private language you can’t understand what they’re saying?
Karra: there are some words that I can catch and other words that I can’t. When they talk fast, it is hard for me to understand them and Kiri also nods.
Russ: hmm, okay.
Karra: but also there is a courtesy thing that if there is a person that speaks another language, let us say I am president and Huna and Leah are talking, they will speak in the common language of Sirius even if it is private, intimate conversation because that is rude not to.
Karra: I do not know if they are saying something derogatory about me or cracking some joke that I should be aware of and find amusing. So it is something that is considered very rude to speak in your own language if there is a person around that does not speak your language.
Russ: I see, okay. All right, now what is your opinion on setting this up in the webpage as the Tenuvial and Tanaka clans?
Karra: I know your thoughts and we will think about it.
Karra: but we’re not opposing clans, we’re just........
Russ: understandable, it’s an interesting way of describing the heritage of Sirius where we see earth history in many different forms but until you get down right to the family roots of it you don’t really see the history.
Russ: just like the Hatfield's and McCoy’s. All right we’ve got work done on the…..we’ll get the work done on the page......
Russ: as far as figuring out the graphics to the tape and we'll add this in also.
Russ: so with that of course we’re going to add in the part, the memorial I guess to Princess Diana.
Russ: okay do you want to run that now?
Karra: we will do that between the two of us.
Russ: oh you and Kiri?
Russ: me and you?
Karra: and Kiri.
Karra: Kiri will also put in her two cents worth, I will be in contact with her….
Karra: when we do it.
Russ: all right fair enough. Now then, as far as the healing aspects go…..
Russ: could you describe a little bit about that in relationship to how in general something going on with Atlantis? How it split up. The Egyptians obviously had the major parts of it.
Karra: no they didn’t actually.
Karra: it was spread equally. Again it was an environmental thing. Korton is quite correct in discussing the environment, it does play a big role in the medicine. For example, certain healing herbs for mining injuries would be culturally unsuitable in a farming community or a seafaring community as would be seafaring community using or having their medicine used in a mining community. Look at it this way, what is the point in having……hmm, that’s not a good example actually. I was going to talk about broken bones. Okay let us talk about poultices, now in a farming community it is not very often to get crushed bones so you would not use hard splints. You get cuts and gashes and clean breaks as opposed to crushes that would need putting back together in a plain splints. In a farming community you would use the various herbs that are best for making poultices to deal with cuts and gashes and clean breaks and all that entails whereas in a mining community where a crushed hand or finger or foot or leg is more common and with crushing, there isn’t so many cuts and breaks of the skin and the muscle tissue. That all happens internally so you would use a different kind of medicine.
Karra: you see?
Russ: uh-huh. Now after the breakup of Atlantis you would be dealing with a lot of trauma.
Karra: of course.
Russ: not only in injuries but just mental and emotional trauma.
Russ: but these aren’t things you can use, a poultice or a splint or something for…
Karra: uh-huh, well it goes back to what we discussed a few weeks ago about dealing with problems. You see when you sit down and communicate, you address the problem. By talking, and talking about how somebody feels about their problems and why they feel in a particular way will actually do more good than sitting down and prescribing pharmaceuticals for their moods. Certainly there are times where pharmaceuticals are very necessary when an individual has a chemical imbalance but where it is psychological, all the medication in the world just masks the real problem.
Karra: so by sitting down and talking and doing it in such a way that is cleverly worded so that the individual’s mental harm is repaired is the important thing.
Russ: interesting, this almost takes us back to the shamans of all four parts of the globe at that point.
Karra: well it does dovetail with what we were discussing last week about changing the frequencies and bringing the frequencies up.
Russ: right because basically yeah whoever is doing the work, be it a shaman or healer or whatever, they're going to be a lot of words spoken, a lot of ceremony….
Russ: you’re going to see a lot of incense or smells.
Russ: changing a person’s environment mentally and physically.
Karra: and their conscious state.
Russ: and their conscious state correct, would do a lot in the way of trauma and things like that.
Karra: correct, you see rituals serve a very useful purpose. You remember how much of a ritual we used to make out of Carrie’s healings?
Karra: it was unbelievably ritualized. Bowl of water, clean cloth, putting Carrie through an experience, making her laugh, making her cry, making her serious. It was changing her conscious level, bringing it up to a level where it was easy for me to come down to her level.
Karra: so by increasing her conscious level and me adjusting my level to her level, the healing could take place. It is important as a healer to be able to change and fluctuate one’s healing levels so that communication and the healing take place.
Russ: doesn’t this also then go along with empathy?
Karra: empathy is very important.
Russ: as you come to each other’s level, the level of empathy then is able to match more closely to that person whether their vibrations are different from yours.
Karra: that goes without saying.
Russ: yes but we need to say that.
Karra: yes but it is something that is very self-evident.
Karra: if you are aware of what is necessary but the rituals are very important, they do much more than bringing an individual up to or down to a particular level. They put you through an experience, a common experience that is shared by all the people participating. If you take for example the healing of Carrie again, she’s going to love being on the Internet, the experiences that we put her through and I went through and you went through made it a shared thing. Even at the end when she was getting ready to leave, the jokes, the humor, the masks, the rubber gloves, they were reminding her of a shared experience.
Karra: you see in a cold, sterile environment it is intimidating for an individual to go through a healing. For a while on your planet I’ve noticed that a clean, sterile and I don’t mean clean, sterile, I mean sterile as….
Russ: antiseptic almost.
Karra: correct yes, I was saying could you help me here with the word, what I mean is somewhere that is cold.
Russ: yeah, very professional as far as attitude goes?
Karra: well the environment.
Russ: yeah, very antiseptic.
Karra: yes, that will work. That has an effect of intimidating. If you go to hospitals that are built more recently, you will find that they are still a little cold, no carpeting on the floor which is wise if you have a lot of bloodstains but you go in to the doctor’s offices where they had discussions with the patients you will find pictures and all the necessary, cheerful…….
(Karra gets the 2nd half started.)
Karra: ..........which is necessary to lull a patient into a sense of security which in turn aids the healing process to create a relaxed environment as opposed to an intimidating and scary environment. Having watched some of your earth patients go into a very clinical, antiseptic, sterile office they tend to clam up and the doctor has to work harder and pull out the information little by little. It is almost like pulling teeth getting that information but yet an office where the doctor is sitting down with his feet on the desk talking in a nice, relaxed way will get more out of the patient than the patient would give otherwise.
Russ: now this goes back to a combination of the two techniques that we saw from Atlantis to after Atlantis.
Russ: during Atlantis we’re seeing a very not so ritual as much as technical….
Russ: environment for healing using crystals and sound and light……
Russ: and color to where afterwards you had none of those things anymore but you still had the ritual….
Russ: which is all that was really left. So they were working from what they knew best without the tools that they had from before.
Russ: except for the herbs of course......
Karra: of course.
Russ: which were always there.
Russ: and nowadays you see it where it’s a little bit of both. You have the tools, you don’t have the ritual anymore….
Russ: but you do have the tools and the more professionalism.
Karra: it is starting to lean that way. Let us go back to the healings of Carrie.
Karra: okay, we’re in a nice warm room…
Karra: we’re laughing and joking, we start the rituals, what did I always suggest that she do?
Russ: balls of light?
Karra: well besides that, something that was even when we were just discussing?
Russ: oh, a positive attitude.
Karra: actually a cup of tea.
Karra: to relax.
Russ: oh yeah.
Karra: of course it works. Why do something if it doesn’t work? Giving her a cup of tea to relax works, the balls of light work. The whole entire rituals are designed for a specific purpose and this purpose is to heal. Why do we do them? Because they work, that’s the most important thing. It doesn’t matter how strange and bizarre it looks as long as one thing happens and that one thing is?
Russ: the healing.
Karra: well it works. Anyway…….
Russ: well thank you my love.
Karra: you’re welcome, see you later hon.
Russ: bye sweetheart.
(Korton gives us his input.)
Korton: okay Russ, let us look at Karra’s brief dissertation and comments. She is quite correct in her discussion on things that are culturally suitable and environmentally suitable. Yes there is a link between the two, between my dissertation and her dissertation. It is important that environmental factors are taken into consideration. Okay, the healing sessions with Carrie, yes I believe with consent from Carrie it can go on the Internet. (Consent has been given.) You have to remember this is an external person that went through a healing session or numerous healing sessions so therefore it is important to have her consent. The discussion on healing techniques and the clinical nature of your third dimensional medical system and in comparison to a more relaxed environment, yes that can go on. Any questions?
Korton: okay. Russ relax, I am censoring, I am not probing. Do not be intimidated unless you do really wish to be probed.
Russ: oh no, oh no.
(Tia gets us on to our first guest speaker.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Tia: you asked for that didn’t you?
Russ: well that was pretty funny though, I have to admit I found it tough to not laugh at that one.
Tia: uh-huh, he tells you to relax and then he goes I am not here to probe, I am here to censor unless you wish to be probed.
Russ: I'm quite happy with my brains intact.
Tia: put you in a corner didn’t he?
Tia: any questions for me?
Russ: yeah, what is that little sucker up there trying to yell this time?
Tia: let me in.
Russ: oh, well that figures.
Tia: I don’t know where he learned language like that.
Russ: well it wasn’t from me.
Tia: well the little one there doesn’t.
Russ: no she’s well behaved.
Tia: uh-huh. Why is it that the bigger ones are so rude?
Russ: because they’re bigger ones.......
Russ: they haven’t learned humility yet.
Tia: and funny thing is that they stay out there until they learn humility. Now he’s saying that he’s hungry.
Tia: but he can learn patience.
(Tia gives a talking to the cats in their language.)
Tia: he’s always got to get the last words in. I told him to wait and learn patience.
Russ: oh, good girl.
Tia: okay. He’s going, “I’m not patient, I want in, I want in, I want in.” Wait until he does that long (Makes a long meow).
Russ: then he’ll figure it out. All right.
Tia: it’s coming, you wait. You heard the tone in his voice change?
Russ: uh-huh, that one changed.
Tia: I won’t say exactly what he said, it began with a B. Okay…….
(Leah talks about her family.)
Russ: hello Leah?
Russ: hi Leah, how you doing dear?
Leah: not too bad.
Russ: the Tenuvi clan?
Russ: Tenuvial clan, that’s right.
Russ: family. Hmm....
Leah: clan is something I do not understand.
Russ: it is the same thing only more Celtic which you don’t understand either…..it’s a……..never mind. Anyway, how are you doing my dear?
Leah: okay, what is Celtic?
Russ: Celtic is a group of peoples of many different families and cultures that inhabited the northern part of the continent we now call Europe. Mostly in the British Isles where Mark is from.
Leah: but you call them a can?
Russ: yes, because that’s what they call themselves.
Leah: so as a group they’re called a clan?
Russ: no, multiple, different clans. For example you have the McCloud clan and you had the……
Leah: why is Tia going there can only be one? When you said McCloud she started leaping around saying there can only be one.
Russ: that would be from a popular media movie series down here called “Highlander” which is a movie about……..it’s a fictional movie concerning clans that….
Leah: holo, okay.
Russ: okay, you got it all figured out.
Leah: I didn’t get that last part, I was wondering what a movie is?
Russ: cinema, like a holo. (Hologram)
Leah: that’s with Tia said…..
Leah: you were saying it is a fictional holo of…...
Russ: of a story about immortal kind of beings who fight among themselves so that there’s only one left who then receives the great prize.
Leah: so they fight to kill each other?
Russ: right, they have to behead each other.
Leah: then they are not immortal, there is a problem there.
Russ: right, they call themselves immortal because if they aren’t beheaded they live forever.
Leah: they assume they live forever.
Leah: but it is a recreational entertainment?
Leah: oh okay. So it’s a recreational fictional entertainment. Hmm, interesting concept.
Russ: well sort of like what your sister does but with more of a storyline to it.
Leah: hers do not have a storyline?
Leah: have you seen one?
Leah: have you watched it all the way through?
Leah: well, you can’t say can you?
Russ: well I can’t stay up there long enough to watch a whole thing all the way through.
Russ: but there is a storyline in them?
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: you would have to ask her.
Russ: I’ll ask her when I see her next. Anyway darling, how are you this evening?
Leah: I’m doing well.
Russ: good to hear it, good to hear it.
Leah: do I have to give a talk?
Russ: no actually, I’m just going to ask you a few questions about your family.
Russ: all right, we know quite a bit about the Tanaka family from their history and where they came from and the various myths and legends that led up to where they’re at now but we know absolutely nothing about the Tenuvial clan or family…..
Russ: and I was wondering if you might fill in a few of the blanks?
Leah: what would you like to know?
Russ: well for example with the Tanaka family we have various legends or a legend in particular that describes their origins, is there any such thing in the Tenuvial family?
Leah: there is a story, rather long story of us coming out of the sea to a land that was empty but full of life.
Russ: oh, is there a short version of it?
Leah: no not really.
Leah: it’s more of…..I don’t know what the word would be….it’s….
Russ: an epic?
Leah: what’s an epic?
Russ: epic is a very long story that has many twists and turns, a start, beginning, middle.
Russ: a dramatic.....
Leah: yes, kind of like that, I think I know what you mean. An epic would be a long drawnout story involving many gyrations of families or family members.
Russ: right yeah, that’s it.
Leah: yes and no. Kiri says saga.
Russ: saga, another good one, yes.
Leah: uh-huh, I know what a saga is.
Leah: yes almost a saga but it is you would call ballad saga.
Russ: of yes, almost a singing kind of….
Russ: longer than a 90 minute tape probably.
Leah: it normally takes…when we tell it we tell it at special times, the harvest of the springing fish. We will sit around......the whole entire family would get together, all 3,000 of us at the last count and we each tell a part.......
Leah: and it will go for a few days.
Russ: well can you tell me your part?
Leah: my part would definitely take more than one of your recording times.
Russ: oh well, it’s a thought. Okay what is a springing fish?
Leah: it is a fish that is a big fish that climbs rocks with water.
Russ: oh like a leaping fish.
Leah: uh-huh and it goes……..
Russ: like our salmon.
Leah: it’s not salmon.
Russ: oh but we have salmon that do the same thing.
Leah: they’re about this big.
Russ: that’s not a big fish.
Russ: that’s not a big fish.
Leah: did I say big fish?
Leah: oh well.
Russ: that’s a tiny, little thing.
Leah: well this is…….
Russ: I thought you meant these big, giant tarpon-like things.
Leah: oh there are those but they’re not springing fish, those are the climbing fish.
Leah: and it used to be in our history that to prove that you were a person of reckoning you would catch one.
Russ: oh, very difficult I take it?
Leah: well I’ve never succeeded and I’ve tried a few times, for fun.
Leah: the only thing that you have is your swimsuit.
Russ: hmm, I’ll bet Huna could catch some.
Russ: she strikes me as one of those springing fish kind of people.
Leah: well you stand on the rocks and you try to catch them as they come.
Russ: yeah she’d love that.
Leah: she says she’s tried.
Russ: hasn’t caught one?
Russ: I am shocked.
Leah: well I actually had a hold of one on one occasion…..
Russ: did you?
Russ: ahhh good job.
Leah: had my fingers in its gills, I was about 14 and I wrestled it and wrassled and wrassled and it broke my fingers.
Russ: for a little fish that’s a strong little fish.
Leah: no, this is the……not the springing fish…..
Russ: oh the climbing fish.
Leah: the climbing fish.
Russ: oh they’re bigger then.
Leah: uh-huh, they’re about……average one is about I should say seven feet long?
Leah: no, the length of the futon.
Russ: okay that’s six feet plus a little bit. Yet that’s a big fish.
Russ: yeah I could see where that would be definitely someone to reckon with.
Russ: wow, that’s amazing you even tried at 14. Man that sucker would be quite a bit bigger than you are at 14.
Leah: the one I caught was about my size.
Leah: weighed a lot more than I did.
Russ: okay well hey, that’s a good little idea of the Tenuvial family there and some of its history.
Leah: we are a waterborne race.
Russ: right, I can relate to that being my sign as we call it down here is a water sign.
Russ: I think Karra has explained it to me as you have a similar kind of astrological signs on Sirius.
Russ: but mine is the fish.
Leah: the fish, what fish?
Russ: Pisces, just fish in particular, they….
Russ: don’t say what kind of fish.
Leah: my sign is the deep fish……
Leah: it goes deep.
Russ: oh neat.
Leah: uh-huh. Hmm, that’s in the middle part of the winter.
Russ: good, maybe you can explain this a little bit about the signs because no one’s ever gone into the signs part at all.
Russ: if you can give me a little quick thing about your deep fish, how does that relate to you as a person? Does that mean you have deep thoughts?
Leah: deep thoughts, the fish is a loner fish…..
Leah: it doesn’t say much, it goes deep in the water but it thinks deep and the other fish because it goes so deep and can move so fast are scared of it.
Leah: there’s the horak, trying to think of what that would be. It’s a animal with a short nose….
Russ: like a pig?
Leah: describe what a pig is.
Russ: a pig is a quadrupedal, furless, hairless……well partially haired animal that we use for a food source down here.
Leah: that could be anything.
Leah: a little more detail please.
Russ: it’s fat, has a short, curly tail, short, fat little nose that's squared off, just the nostrils right there in front…..
Leah: and goes (makes a snorting sound.)
Russ: right that’s it, yeah.
Leah: yeah, that’s a horak.
Russ: oh okay, got it.
Leah: they’re….on Sirius they’re not so chubby, they move very, very fast.
Russ: oh, these don't.
Leah: they are quite smart. The horak is the action animal.
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: that’s Huna’s animal.
Russ: is it now?
Leah: but she was born on the point of the changeover with the runner animal.
Russ: oh as we would call on the cusp.
Russ: yeah that would be the changeover between the two signs.
Leah: uh-huh, ahh. She was born right at the point of the changeover.
Russ: oh okay.
Leah: yeah oh she is part of horak and part of the runner.
Russ: okay, I understand.
Leah: uh-huh, the runner is the breeding animal.
(Russ starts laughing.)
Leah: uh-huh, it’s the one with the ears and the whiskers.
Russ: ahhh okay.
Leah: so she has the……
Russ: the bunny.
(Russ laughs again.)
Leah: she has the strength and stamina of the horak and then the speed and agility of the runner.
Russ: ahh and you have the deep fish.
Russ: it seems apt and quite well put just as with our signs are.
Russ: excellent thank you, that’s a very enjoyable dissertation on your part.
Leah: any questions?
Russ: no you’ve covered it all thank you Leah, very informative.
Russ: you’re not leaving yet, you still have another while to go?
Russ: oh good.
Leah: I got my……..my main exams are when.......been around your sun twice, no once.
Russ: oh one more month?
Leah: no, when Mars has been around one more time to back to where it is now.
Russ: oh okay, another year.....and some I'm told.
Leah: okay, I’ll catch you later.
Russ: bye love.
(Tia returns to usher in the Bunny Monster.)
(Tia says hi in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: you don’t know our astronomy do we? Another year?
Russ: I don’t know, how long does Mars take to get around our sun?
Tia: close to two years.
Russ: two years, well I said a year and a bit.
Tia: you said and some I’m being told.
Russ: yeah, because Karra gave me a bit of coaching.
Russ: I don’t know how long it takes for Mars to get around the sun.
Tia: how long does it take?
Russ: 364 days, 12 hours and 36 minutes.
Tia: you’ve lost a whole entire day.
Russ: no, I’ve lost 12 hours.
Tia: no you haven’t.
Russ: no, less than 12 hours.
Tia: it takes 365 days and six hours. No, five hours and……do you want me to get real technical?
Russ: no thank you darling.
Russ: we don’t have time for it.
(Tia says goodbye in Durondedunn.)
Tia: okay, I will put on the next guest speaker.
Russ: Korton’s not coming back in?
Tia: he says that there isn’t anything to edit.
Russ: oh okay.
(Huna/Bunny livens up the night.)
Russ: hey Bunny.
Russ: so a horak?
Russ: and a bunny, how cute. It’s a mental picture.
Bunny: uh-huh, a mental picture huh?
Russ: you bet. Good, that’s quite fascinating, I like listening about the Tenuvial family.
Russ: and long does your little portion of this…..
Bunny: I’ve never done my part.
Russ: but you know it by heart so…….
Russ: really? That’s very good, how long does it take?
Bunny: it takes five hours.
Russ: and you learned it by heart?
Russ: you’re quite an actress.
Bunny: I have to be.
Russ: yes you do, that’s quite a script.
Russ: well I can’t wait to hear about your telling of the story someday.
Russ: when does it happen? When is the next gathering of the family?
Bunny: the next gathering of the family is on the conjunction of the sun and the moons.
Russ: oh, so sometime in the near future I take it?
Russ: okay, well good.
Bunny: and everybody tells a part. For the family members that live far away they select an individual to tell their part.
Russ: oh, hmm.
Russ: well if your part’s five hour-long and there’s 3,000 family members….
Russ: well they can’t all be five hours long.
Russ: oh okay. I was going to say, you’d be basically living there for a year or so listening to this story.
Bunny: uh-huh, it’s……our father is head of family.
Bunny: so as daughters and sons we have…
Russ: oohhh, the longer parts.
Bunny: that’s right.
Russ: that’s right, I forgot.
Russ: ahh okay. Hmm, now with your family, is it very structured as far as from the head of the family down?
Bunny: the higher up in the family the more structured it is.
Russ: okay so you have to go to specific family functions as a family member being as you’re daughter of the head of the family?
Russ: oh so you’re not like Karra where you have to do a certain role and all.
Bunny: no, that goes to…….
Russ: not your older sister, not Leah’s older sister?
Bunny: the way it works is, on the climbing pole there is my father and my mother and then there is my biggest brother and then my biggest sister and they have important parts to play. And then there is Leah and she has a little part to play and there’s me and my little brother, we don’t get to play any parts except for at really big family functions.
Russ: what are you going to do then, tell your story?
Russ: that's it.
Bunny: uh-huh so I can get away with wriggling around at family meetings.
Russ: oh yes, not for long.
Bunny: I can get away with it as long as I want.
Russ: (laughs) okay so your family is important as far as trade and things go on Sirius I take it?
Russ: well with the fishing, things like that, your family has a part to play itself in the whole grand scheme of Sirius.
Russ: right, so is there any part of that that you are responsible for?
Russ: oh okay. So you don't have to learn the family business or something?
Russ: you lucky girl.
Bunny: uh-huh, it’s not expected of me.
Bunny: I can sun myself on the beach all day, I can go to college for as long as I want, I can…..
Russ: gallivant around the galaxy.
Bunny: uh-huh, I can get joined as much as I want and nobody can say a word.
Russ: so in other words there is no such thing as family scandals?
Bunny: you want to hear family scandals?
(Russ starts laughing.)
Bunny: I heard a story a while ago of a family that the head lady, the head lady, I think the head is quite appropriate in this story was.........
Russ: I won’t wonder who’s that family is.
bunny: I know who’s family it is……..oww, hmm.
Russ: well anyway.
Bunny: yes it was that family.
Russ: that’s too funny.
Russ: with that in mind then basically, have you had a chance to really get out and explore the galaxy at all or no, not really?
Bunny: no, the only part I’ve seen of the galaxy is from my chambers.
Russ: so you haven’t been to the city ships yet at all?
Bunny: city ships no.
Russ: oh yeah? You plan on going someday?
Russ: yeah? Okay good.
Bunny: uh-huh, I’ll make a tour.
Russ: well it’s funny, even down here we know what the city ships kind of are setup as, as far as their……
Bunny: yeah, they could do with some rest and relaxation, I’ll liven things up.
Russ: yes I'm sure you will dear.
Russ: of course they will have already gotten the chance to witness you in probably a few different holos up there.
Russ: so you’ll be a celebrity when you go up.
Bunny: uh-huh, I’m actually working on one of the moment, did a couple nights ago.
Russ: oh did you?
Russ: ahh excellent.
Bunny: three guys and two girls and myself.
Russ: ahh and how’s the editing going on that?
Bunny: I keep on getting stuck in particular parts as I’m editing.
Russ: getting a little too excited through the editing part?
Russ: must be a tough job.
Bunny: oh yeah but somebody’s got to do it.
Russ: somebody’s got to do it.
Bunny: and my assistant is very willing and helpful.
Russ: I’ll bet.
Bunny: uh-huh, actually I have two assistants, they take it in turns.
Russ: is there credits and everything that run?
Russ: this holo performed by Huna and…….
Bunny: I use my stage name.
Russ: oh okay.
Russ: edited by her assistant whoever that is…….
Russ: and also this other assistant whoever that is.
Bunny: uh-huh. Actually the assistants are in it as well.
Russ: and there is a storyline?
Russ: okay, what is the storyline of your latest video…..oh excuse me holo that you’re editing?
Bunny: okay, two girls…..
Bunny: are out in the woods…..
Bunny: uh-huh and they come across a girl and two guys.
Bunny: and they spend the night in a cabin and this terrible storm comes up and there’s no joinings at this point.
Russ: there isn’t?
Bunny: no well apart from a beautiful love scene between the girl and one of the guys.
Bunny: and they play a faithful couple throughout the whole entire thing that is trying to be............subdued.
Bunny: and while this storm's going on this guy comes in that is terribly cold and got caught in the storm and he’s taken care of by one of the girls and there’s a beautiful resuscitation scene that turns from a resuscitation scene into a full on love scene.
Bunny: and then there’s my scene and I’ve got different hair and I’m wearing a little less makeup than I normally wear in the holos and I look a lot, lot younger and I get seduced by the guy that was rescued and the girl.
Bunny: uh-huh and I have to portray the part as a virgin, it's a lot of the fun that is.
Russ: oh okay.
Bunny: uh-huh, it takes a lot of muscle control and I get turned into a sex craved…..
Russ: that's not a big stretch of your acting ability.
Bunny: no. I turned into a sex craved and I try to seduce first the guy and I don’t succeed and then I try to seduce the girl, the two faithful’s…..
Russ: uh-huh yes.
Bunny: and she almost gives in but is rescued by her boyfriend.
Bunny: and there’s a beautiful consummation scene and then it finishes up with myself getting very passionate with the one girl and the two guys.
Bunny: and then it ends with me sitting all on my own wearing a big dress going, “oh boy”.
Russ: oh you’re pregnant?
Russ: ahhh I get it. Okay so you filmed this up on Wookie……on the mountain, the ski mountain?
Bunny: we did it in several locations actually.
Bunny: we did the storm scene in the park.
Bunny: we did the seducing of me in the woods up above Lake Dolphin.
Bunny: and then we did a lot of it, a lot of the more intimate scenes in the garden at the back of Mark’s place.
Russ: anybody else in there I know that was in this?
Bunny: no, just six of us.
Russ: but none of them I know except for you?
Bunny: that’s right.
Bunny: the hardest part of the whole entire thing was doing the virgin scene.
Russ: I can imagine that was a stretch of your imagination.
Bunny: I reached back and remembered quite easy but it was……to act I get into that state.
Bunny: it takes a lot of muscle control.
Russ: well I’ll try to stay awake…..or try to stay solid enough to watch this at some point.
Bunny: oh I won’t have it finished for a while.
Bunny: there’s a few technical glitches.
Bunny: and the funny thing is I don’t know any of their names.
Russ: I would learn them.
Bunny: uh-huh, well we were acting with different names.
Russ: oh okay.
Russ: well thank you my dear, that was very informative.
Bunny: actually the girl that plays the faithful one, she's really into sexual activity.
Russ: hmm, so a bit of acting on her part too.
Bunny: uh-huh. She has a holo of me in my first…..well she has all my discs.
Russ: that’s a fan.
Bunny: oh yeah. She almost died when I asked her.
Russ: oh neat.
Bunny: she said that she would do anything so I asked to see her acting skill.
Russ: well you certainly asked her a lot.
Bunny: so I gave her a demanding role as a faithful girl.
Russ: well excellent my dear.
Russ: good job on your part.
Bunny: yeah I think I might do a sequel actually.
Russ: hmm, I think you should.
Russ: well anyway, we’ve got to get on to the next speaker.
Bunny: oh yeah and I’ve got to go off and deal with several urges.
Russ: okay well have fun all your one of them.
(Korton judges what is acceptable from the last speaker.)
Korton: greetings Russ.
Russ: greetings Korton.
Korton: Miss Tenuvial and her intimate actions, let’s not put that on the Internet.
Russ: let’s not. We can put some of it though, the first part there.
Korton: yes, I suggest that you edit very carefully.
Russ: I will do so.
Korton: her pheromone level is extremely high, her aura is I believe you would say passionate pink.
Korton: very passionate. Okay.
(Tia brings on her triple soul to round out the night.)
(Tia says hello in Durondedunn.)
Russ: hi Tia.
Tia: gotta hustle, running short on time.
Russ: okay babe.
(Kiri uses up what little tape is left.)
Russ: hi Kiri.
Kiri: yo dude.
Russ: all right babe, what’s your sign?
Kiri: what’s my sign? High-fives.
Russ: high-fives sign.
Kiri: that’s my sign. Why are you asking everybody’s sign?
Russ: oh I’m just kind of curious, I’ve never had that in what, five years? I’ve never asked anybody their sign.
Kiri: oh, mine’s the orap.
Russ: same as…..
Kiri: no, that’s a horak.
Russ: what’s that look like?
Kiri: you could call it an antelope?
Russ: oh an antelope.
Kiri: fast, springy, little bullheaded.
Russ: ahh, good job. What’s Karra’s?
Kiri: Karra’s is the biyak.
Russ: a biyak.
Russ: what’s that?
Kiri: that’s kind of a half humanoid and a half bear.
Russ: you’re kidding me, Karra? Hmm, okay, biyak.
Russ: cool, thanks love.
Kiri: yeah. That’s a wise person of the woods.
Russ: oh I get it, sort of like our Pan kind of thing?
Russ: oh okay, I got you.
Russ: I’ll have to ask her about that. All right love, so what are we on to tonight? We’re onto let’s see……memorial to Princess Diana?
Kiri: I’ll work with Karra on that due to the fact that somebody might get very sensitive over it.
Russ: okay yeah, our timing is just going to be kind of tight on this though.
Kiri: uh-huh yeah, we will link minds and work……
Russ: send it over to me alright.
Kiri: yeah besides, I’m going to be out of commission pretty soon on that front and I keep on getting passes made at me.
Russ: commission on what front?
Kiri: on the Bunny front.
Kiri: and her urges.
Russ: well what’s wrong with you, you’re going on your period soon?
Russ: oh bummer.
Kiri: yeah, it happens.
Russ: okay, so you want to get busy and get through this part real quick.
Kiri: well it won’t start until probably…..not today that’s for sure.
Russ: oh good, okay. Let’s see, so we’re onto, let’s see Kiri, Kiri, Kiri, Kiri.
Kiri: yes I was the last time I looked Russ, Russ, Russ, Russ.
Russ: engineering on the split up after Atlantis.
Kiri: do you have to make me think?
Russ: I thought maybe it would be a change of pace for you.
Kiri: I’m trying to think actually, I'm libbing ab….
Kiri: let me see, ab libbing. She’s got me mixing my words up now. Okay let me see, we don’t have that long on the tape do we? We have about five minutes.
Russ: let me check. We got a little bit of time here, I’d say about 10 minutes.
Kiri: hmm, let me see. Okay brief, God that’s going to have to be brief because it is quite a dissertation.
Russ: want to save that for next week?
Kiri: might be best to.
Kiri: it is rather long and drawn out, in fact I’ll talk to Tia and see if she can put me on a little bit sooner.
Russ: all right.
Kiri: uh-huh well actually next week is Bunny’s last week isn’t it?
Russ: yeah we’ll just schedule things around it.
Russ: because I would like to get this part on.
Kiri: uh-huh, it’s going to be a longy.
Russ: besides it will give you a chance to practice up at work on it a little bit.
Kiri: yeah, get rid of some of the useless stuff that I’ve got worked out.
Russ: okay fair enough.
Kiri: yeah get it a little bit more condensed.
Russ: we’ve got a lot of stuff going on here anyway right now so we’ll just play around now for the rest.
Kiri: oh yeah, and Korton is fading out so........he says he’s not going all the way, he’s just conserving energy.
Russ: oh, good job for Korton.
Russ: I haven’t seen him too, I haven’t seen him in a while.
Kiri: wasn’t he in the week before last?
Russ: yeah but he’s not……it’s been…..remember it used to be at least once a week.
Russ: it would be Omal then Korton and then Tia……
Russ: and maybe you once in a while.
Kiri: uh-huh, oh back at the start?
Russ: right yeah.
Russ: but it would always Omal and Korton for the most part.
Kiri: uh-huh. Well they found out their duties quite well I think.
Russ: uh-huh, I think it’s a really well structured sessions now.
Kiri: uh-huh yeah, looking back on what it went through, it was very, very structured.......
Kiri: and then it kind of got relaxed and a little rambling and now it’s being brought back to a tighter format, kind of combination of the both.
Russ: yeah well there’s one point there where we had various guests like Johnny and stuff where we couldn't get into a structured format almost.
Kiri: uh-huh, but Skip fitted in very well in the structured format.
Russ: I agree but there was the Bethany sessions which were pretty structured.....
Kiri: yeah but I think that with the growing, the structure is important.
Russ: I agree, in fact I don’t know if you read my dissertation……no you didn’t, Karra hasn’t told you yet that I did a dissertation about growth.
Kiri: lots of Karra's stuff?
Kiri: her two healing things?
Russ: uh-huh, the one tonight and then the one from last week.
Russ: and the one we’re working on.
Kiri: what about the one……oh that’s already on there, thank you Tia. Yeah I mean she’s getting some good stuff in…..
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