A Call To Carrie and Hunting Holograms-

Channeled (02/21/96)

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Archivist Notes: November's podcast of a channeling session from 1996 introduces a new guest to hear the members of Hades Base who was visiting from Australia named Nicole. She has been mentioned before in previous sessions but we finally hear her on tape as she adds her contributions to the questions asked. This could almost be called a follow-up to last month's podcast except that this channeling session took place over eight months prior to that one. Last month we had called our friend Carrie who had moved away from Lake Tahoe but caught after she had gone to sleep. We again catch after she had retired for the night but this time she forces herself awake and all of side one is our conversation with her. She had an upcoming marriage soon and so a lot of the conversation covers that subject through her chat with Kiri, Tia, and Karra. On side two we were joined by our friend John and we hear more on why Tia wasn't the ring mistress for the night's session and why we would have a replacement for the next few weeks. To wrap up this summary, she is also the speaker who tells us all about her honing her hunting skills by tracking and killing with her bare hands holograms of one of the animals she used to hunt on her homeworld.   

   With Kiri taking on the role of ring mistress, she is the first to speak to Carrie as we ring her up right away. With the impending wedding, Kiri and Carrie go over dresses picked out already and the ones Kiri had been getting ideas about to show Carrie. Next, the bride-to-be asks for and gets an update of what was happening on the base before Karra comes on to answer questions Carrie had for our resident healer. First to be gone over was a blood pressure rise Karra had received reports on that Carrie would need to address, especially if a planned pregnancy was to take place after the wedding. We also see some Carrie's incredible resolve as she declares herself able to heal a recent infection without the aid of doctors. That's all the time Karra had to allow everyone to speak to her so she makes way for Tia to chat with her sister mind. Tia uses her time to go over the bad dreams Carrie had been having which Tia was able to wipe from Carrie's memory by slipping into Carrie's dream state. She had also been using those moments to help Carrie with her astral traveling. Finally, they discuss the difficulty Carrie had been having adjusting to a life away from California. Kiri's talk with Carrie had been cut short by her sister so Kiri returns to talk about what would take place when Mark and myself went to her wedding and how a channeling session could be arranged like in the old days. Kiri next completes her discussion about the dress designs she had in mind for the wedding as well as various miscellaneous subjects before they have to usher back in Tia and Karra to say goodbye since the long distance call was racking up some minutes. After they hang up there's not much more time on the side than to note that Kiri's name in Sirian would be too tough to say using Mark's body.

   Kiri starts out side two for only a minute or so before giving up her seat to her sister. Karra gets back to dwelling on a topic we had been working on which was the vanishing bulk of knowledge regarding healing in African tribes and Native American tribes. One of those tribes, the Algonquin, were mentioned as having some of the knowledge concerning herb lore. We do find out Ashtar is on the base though not able to join the channeling session that night. Kiri has to do in his place as she rejoins to take Karra's seat because she has a lot to go over with our visiting guest. We first get to hear about the reason Tia needs to take a few weeks off which is that her issues are related to her being Durodedunn. After that, it's all business literally as Kiri and Nicole discuss the bathing suit designs Kiri had drawn up for her that she was taking back to Australia. She knew of ways to get the plans to market and so the agreement already worked out was confirmed as to what would be done with any profits. While visiting, Nicole had purchased a ski suit and so at Kiri's urging tried it on for her to see it on a person. She ends her time explaining why she has to relate to the price of everything in cases of wine which is because there isn't a monetary system on Sirius. As explained in previous sessions, it's an economy built around barter, karma, need, and honor. That leaves Tia to use what little time is left on the side to first take note of how Kiri's transition of speakers wasn't done as it should be with an audible gasp from Mark as one speaker replaced the next. After that, she reveals that one of her options to avoiding homesickness was to hunt holograms of one of the animals from her homeworld that would bear a resemblance to a deer. She details how, back where she came from, they would hunt the animal with their bare hands and use all parts of the animal once it had been killed. Another revelation we learn is that Tia would help out one of our guests mentally by nudging his thinking in a particular direction. There was an unspoken agreement all us attending on the third dimension agreed to when working with telepaths that mental nudging was perfectly acceptable if it advanced our growth. We end the session with Tia's assertions that she is faithful to Mark and while the other women of the base may have multiple partners, she was just not that sort of woman.                 

KIRI Ring Mistress MARK (Channel)
KARRA RUSS (Archivist)
TIA John



2.)(7:55)- Karra also talks about the upcoming wedding but more from a healers point of view as Carrie is a former patient of hers.
3.)(13:08)- Tia lets Carrie know she's been coming down and taking away her bad dreams and helping with her astral travel while she sleeps. Carrie also reflects on her transition away from the West Coast.
4.)(18:33)- Kiri reminds Carrie she's being shielded by Hades Base around her personal dwelling plus they go over plans for when everyone was to come to her wedding.

2.)(10:03)- We hear from Kiri why Tia needs to take a few weeks off from her duties and the standard method of barter Kiri uses when selling her line of swimsuits.
3.)(22:57)- Tia explains how she hunts holographic deer from her home planet and how she hunted the real thing back when she was on the third dimension.
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(Kiri steps in as acting ring mistress to get the channeling session going)

Nicole: do you want me to dial it now?

Russ: yeah.

(we hear a phone dialing before being picked up)

Carrie: hello

Kiri: hello, howís it going?

Carrie: oh it's fine, how are you?

Kiri: did we wake you?

Carrie: good, what are you guys doing?

Kiri: well, itís Tuesday night and what do we normally do on Tuesday nights?

Carrie: oh God thatís right, I forgot all about it.

Kiri: I told Mark to call earlier on and to tell you.

Carrie: I know, I picked up the phone and it was too late.

Kiri: well he was supposed to have called in the afternoon round about......I think it would be about 6 oíclock of your time?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Kiri: oh well nevermind, you sound tired, weíll let you go back to sleep.

Carrie: nooo.

Kiri: no?

Carrie: no.

Kiri: okay.

Carrie: let me wake up, it will take me a minute or two, you guys keep talking.

Kiri: okay, well weíll let Russ talk to you for a few.

Russ: hi Carrie, can you hear me okay?

Carrie: okay, I just got to get up and move around. I think I have the heat up too high.

Russ: that could be something.

Carrie: it drives me so crazy it gets so hot in this place.

Kiri: oh so itís hot and sticky wise huh?

Carrie: oh yeah, it just gets really yucky. Okay, Iím up, Iím awake.

Russ: good girl darling, I mean we did talk the other day, didnít you call me?

Carrie: huh?

Russ: didnít you call me the other day?

Carrie: didnít I call you?

Russ: yeah and I told you all about tonight andÖ.

Carrie: yes I know.

Russ: Karra wanted to talk to you andÖ.

Carrie: I rememberÖ.

Russ: oh good.

Carrie: but I forgot.

Kiri: well you got a lot on your mind haven't you?

Kiri: yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: I just kind of spaced it.

Kiri: yeah, did Mark tell you about my dress design for you?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh. Yeah, we will see if we can get some drawings done and send them to you but the hand-eye coordination doesnít quite work sometimes.

Carrie: did he tell you that I already got a dress?

Kiri: he mentioned something vaguely about it but I wasnít paying attention, I was given into a mood that had overtaken me at the time.

Carrie: oh okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: well I did get a dress and itís beautiful.

Kiri: oh good.

Carrie: it was only a hundred and fifty dollarsÖ.

Kiri: how many cases of wine is that?

Carrie: itís a really good price for a wedding dress.

Russ: one.

Carrie: itís real sweet and simple for a garden wedding.

Kiri: oh yeah, nice and flowery?

Carrie: uh-uh.

Kiri: oh.

Carrie: no, itís just real plain......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: but it hugs the upper half of my body and then it kind of flares down to my ankles.

Kiri: oh that sounds nice.

Carrie: and yeah itís beautiful. So I got that but I still want to see your designs.

Kiri: yeah sure, weíll bring them with us, in fact weíll see if we can set up for a quick channeling session when we get there.

Carrie: when?

Kiri: when we come for the wedding or rather when Russ and Mark come for the wedding.

Carrie: oh okay.

Kiri: yeah weíll be coming along and weíll do a quick channeling session for you.

Carrie: youíre not going to send me your designs just to see?

Kiri: well in advance or do you want me to deliver them semi in person?

Carrie: well I donít know, either one.

Kiri: well okay I'll sketch some up next week and see if I can a get tighter link so I can draw the pictures better.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: means Iíll have to do some working out mentally.

Carrie: yeah I want to see what you designed.

Kiri: okay.

Carrie: I got the bridesmaids dresses too.

Kiri: oh have they've got nice puffy sleeves?

Carrie: uh-uh, oh yuck.

Kiri: oh you donít like puffy sleeves do you?

Carrie: puffy sleeves and no bows and no taffeta.

Kiri: taffeta, whatís a taffeta?

Carrie: itís a material that is like well-known for bridesmaid's dresses.

Kiri: ohhh.

Carrie: and itís awful. I mean when you walk it goes.......

(Carrie makes a swishing sound)

Kiri: oh I know that stuff.

Carrie: oh itís awful.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: and bows and puffy sleeves, I just canít do. No, these are just real plain, little summer dresses.

Kiri: oh good, just a simple country wedding.

Carrie: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: yep well, basically things that we wanted and we had to cut out a few things from the weddingÖ

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: but I really got overwhelmed with all this stuff that I wanted to do......

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: but it doesnít matter anymore.

Kiri: well Tia and myself will have a talk with Mark and we'll do some shopping just for you. Weíll take over his body for the afternoon, do some shopping and get you something special.

Carrie: aww sweet, that'd be cool.

Kiri: yes Russ?

Carrie: well what would you guys get us?

Russ: that'd be a great idea.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: bet you itís not on the list.

Kiri: no Iíll bet you itís not on your list but itís something that you will find very useful.

Carrie: thatís what I mean though, you guys will be the only ones that I would......I would know would get me and Mike something that we would need and use that would be totally awesomeÖ

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: other than a kitchen spatula.

Kiri: a kitchen spatula huh? We'll make sure Mark has enough money to pay for what we're going to get for you.

Carrie: so whatís going on up there?

Kiri: well Tiaís on leave at the moment, sheís been given three weeks to relax, kick back and unwind so sheís not ring mistress this evening, she's sitting on the sidelines. I have the honor of being ring mistress.

Carrie: cool.

Kiri: Alana, Karraís daughter is being Alana, sheís having a lot of fun. What else?

Carrie: Iíll bet sheís getting big.

Kiri: no, thatís not the one thatís pregnant. ThatísÖ.

Carrie: whoís pregnant? I didn't know pregnant.

Kiri: no sheís not pregnant I said.

Carrie: oh.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: is somebody pregnant though?

Kiri: a friend of Alanaís and mine called Terri, sheís pregnant.

Carrie: oh okay.

Russ: Teene's pregnant.

Kiri: yeah Teeneís pregnant but you haven't met Teene, sheís a technician.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: Iíve got a few other friends that are pregnant too....what about a cup of tea Russ?

Carrie: youíre a nut.

Nicole: Iíll get it, I'll get it.

Russ: no, she wants me to get it.

Nicole: no Iíll get it.

Russ: weíll both get it.

Carrie: what are you guys doing?

Kiri: oh Iím just sending them out of the room for a private discussion.

Carrie: oh okay, bye Russ.

Kiri: Russ is gone. Okay and I'll go and close the door so that they can't hear what we're going to talk about.

Carrie: God I didnít realize I was that tired. I didn't get to get to bed till 2:30 last night though I had to get up at six.

Kiri: oh well nevermind. Okay Iím going to put Karra on first and according to Karra you have some questions so could you hold on one second?

Carrie: yeah.

Kiri: okay.

(Karra takes over from her sister to speak to Carrie)

Karra: hello, howís it going?

Carrie: hi. Well, things are going pretty good.

Karra: uh-huh. Howís your stress level?

Carrie: it's getting better.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: less than it was two days ago.

Karra: yes, yes, I was given a full report by Tia that your blood pressure was way up there.

Carrie: not real sure about that but I can probably vouch for it.

Karra: uh-huh. So what is on your mind that has been causing you to stress so much apart from the wedding?

Carrie: oh my family.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay now youíre still trying to get pregnant correct?

Carrie: well we kind of stopped.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I mean we're not doing anything to prevent it but weíre not.....we were doing the temperature?

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: body temperature every morning?

Karra: yeah, howís it work with the human body? I think itísÖ..you should be at your most fertile or higher chance of getting pregnant like three days before you reach the middle of your cycle because Iíve been doing some research. Iíve got a young lady up here who was rescued by us who is an earthling from your planet and sheís been helping me. (Sarah)

Carrie: oh really?

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: wow cool.

Karra: yeah she doesnít know why sheís helping me but sheís helping me which is the main thing.

Carrie: well we kind of.....I mean itís not something.....it's kind of something that I put in my back of my mindÖ

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: right now?

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: because with that it added so much more pressure on me.

Karra: uh-huh certainly, itís one of those things that with stress your body will not conceive, itís an automatic safety valve.

Carrie: yeah, itís just not, itís not doing what itÖ.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: what I want it to do right now.....

Karra: okay.

Carrie: so we agreed that we were going to waitÖ

Karra: uh-huh until after the wedding.

Carrie: yeah and I mean weíre not preventing it.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: I mean if it happens itíll happen but if it doesnít happen then we're going to start back up on the thermometer after the weddingÖ..

Karra: of course.

Carrie: because itís just, itís gottenÖ.

Karra: well I think maybe your wedding night might be a very auspicious occasion.

Carrie: you know I was thinking about that the other dayÖ.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: I was also thinking that my wedding is planned right smack dab in the middle of my period.

Karra: uh-huh. Oh well not to worry, things might cause your body to change slightly.

Carrie: I'm hoping, I was thinking about going to the doctor and asking him if thereís any way I can push my period up a week you know? Like taking something but I donít know if I want to do that.

Karra: well I have some drugs but unfortunately I canít give them to you. I meanÖ.

Carrie: I just don't want.......I mean I donít care that Iíll be on my period, I donít want to start my period that day because my period's are mean.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: theyíre really mean.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: they donít give me any slack at all.

Karra: yes I used to have pretty heavy ones too.

Carrie: yeah I donít want to be cramping walking down the aisle. They'll have to give me some tranquilizers or something or Iíll forget get my lines.

Karra: yeah a few glasses of wine beforehand might help.

Carrie: I thought about that too.

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: but we found a house to move into.

Karra: oh thatís good.

Carrie: we found a house that we're going down tomorrow at the bank to try and get financing so everybody, please put your positive energy all towards it.

Karra: okay that brings me to the next subject right?

Carrie: okay.

Karra: now, your body is healing itself nicely, you havenít had any more problems have you recently?

Carrie: oh yeah I have.

Karra: okay tell me which problem that you've had?

Carrie: another bacteria infection......

Karra: hmm.

Carrie: and Mike and I just both went through treatment.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: and I donít know whether they're prescribing something thatís not healing me or that Iíve become immune to......

Karra: thatís a possibility, thereís also positive thinking.

Carrie: yeah, well that isÖ..I know that I can heal this.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Carrie: and Iím not going to go back to the doctor.

Karra: yeah.

Carrie: Iím going to heal it myself.......

Karra: okay.

Carrie: because I know that I can......

Karra: of course you can.

Carrie: and I started working on it.....well I had a real soul-searching day the last couple days and yesterday really hit me.

Karra: yeah. Okay now when we come for the wedding right? And the channeling session that Kiri was talking about, weíll get Russ to bring some crystals and some healing stuff and we'll give you healing okay?

Carrie: okay.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay Iím going to put on trouble, Tia as sheís very bored and mischievous sitting on the sidelines this evening.....okay?

Carrie: okay.

Karra: okay, she'll be right with you.

Carrie: okay Iíll talk to you later.

Karra: okay bye.

Carrie: bye.

(Tia takes the place of Karra in the channeling field.)

Tia: yo sister mind, howís it going?

Carrie: hmm fine, how are you?

Tia: oh Iím fine. Sorry about your dreams, Iíve been blocking out the bad dreams. Iíve been coming down every other day and blocking out your bad dreams for you.

Carrie: well good, because I havenít been having any bad ones.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I havenít......actually I had some really good ones the last couple nights because we found a house that we want to buy andÖ.

Tia: yeah but the ones that you were having before, the ones that you werenít remembering, I was wiping them for you.

Carrie: oh well good......

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: because I donít like those.

Tia: no, I donít like them either. Uh-uh, no way.

Carrie: I woke upÖ

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: a couple mornings, well it was Valentine's morning I woke up. I had a dream that we had moved into a new house.......

Tia: uh-huh, oh thatís good.

Carrie: really beautiful and I woke up really angry.

Tia: yeah well Iím sorry that I had to wipe some of those dreams but it was something that I had to do.

Carrie: no Iím glad becauseÖ

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: some of them were getting outrageous.

Tia: yeah. But okay I've been also helping you with your astral travel as you might of noticed, some of those floating, flying dreams.......and those are actual astral travel trips.

Carrie: oh cool.

Tia: uh-huh so weíre getting there. Youíve got to build up your stamina though.

Carrie: good.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: Iíve been thinking about my astral traveling a lot lately.

Tia: yeah, what we're going to do is weíre going to start you flying by yourself but Iíll pull you up like Iíve been doing. Instead of me taking you somewhere, Iíll let you just float free and let your subconscious program where you want to go.

Carrie: well I wonder where Iíll go?

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: you know where I haven't been in a really long time that I need to go?

Tia: well back up here to the lake?

Carrie: thereÖ..

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: but I need to go to California, I need to go to Robís grave.

Tia: uh-huh, okay we'll work on that. Okay I will try to coach you in the right direction but it is your subconscious so you have to tell your subconscious what you're going to do.

Carrie: I remember how to do it, I just need to do it.

Tia: yeah.

Carrie: Iíve neglected a lot.......

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: since Iíve been here. You know I was thinking about.....Iíve been thinking a lot about what had you said to me before we had moved out here and how you had said that I was going to face some really major changes in my lifeÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: and it was going to be all on how I dealt with it.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: and you said it would be the first six months, well I dragged it out for a year and a half.

Tia: well the first six months were the hardest though.

Carrie: yeah they were because I wanted to go homeÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: the first six months but now it got easier but yet I was still dealing with a lot of the same problems and I was counseling with my upline through my business last nightÖ.

Tia: yeah.

Carrie: and we had discussed some of the major problems that I had been dealing with and where I need to perform the most at and one of the biggest problems that we came up with was my past......

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: and how when I got here.....well all my life I had dedicated my whole life to taking care of everybody else.

Tia: yeah and you've got to take care of yourself.

Carrie: yeah and well I had taken care of everybody else, I was so busy and consumed by doing that, that when I got here nobody required that of me.

Tia: uh-huh and you felt a bitÖÖ.

Carrie: and then all of a sudden I kind of lost my place in life.

Tia: yeah.

Carrie: and I just became really confused. Apparently, I have not known how to react and Iíve been trying to solve the worldís problems but I have no place in that because itís not my doing anymore to take care of other people. Itís my place to start taking care of meÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: and well we discovered that was my biggest problem was twenty-two years of my life has been dedicated to taking care of other people, I donít know how to take care of myself.

Tia: okay now, what we'll do for your wedding present is weíre going to give you a private presentÖ.

Carrie: I was going to say, you canít tell me.

Tia: no, weíre going to give you a private present just for you and then we're going to give Mike a private present just for Mike and then weíre going to give you a present for both of you.

Carrie: awwww, you know you guys donít have to get us anything, theyíre coming out here thatís a lot. Those guys are going to be here, thatís a lot. I wonít see you but I know youíll be here.

Tia: uh-huh, oh we'll be recording it all and everything. Okay now Kiri wants to talk to you seriously now that it's just the four of us at the moment.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: okay? So Iím going to put Kiri back on.....

Carrie: okay.

Tia: and Kiri is in one of her moods so could be fun.

Carrie: Iíll talk to you later.

Tia: okay, and Iíll be down tomorrow night.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: okay? And Iíll make you feel all nice and warm and fuzzy when you wake up in the morning.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: youíll feel wonderful.

Carrie: bye.

Tia: bye, see you shortly.

Carrie: okay.

(Kiri returns to finish up what she needed to say to Carrie.)

Kiri: okay Iím back.

Carrie: hello.

Kiri: hello.

Carrie: how's it feel being ring mistress?

Kiri: itís different, itís a long time since Iíve done it.

Carrie: really?

Kiri: uh-huh. Must be oh, six months or so. Okay now then, have you been working with my exercises I gave you?

Carrie: no.

Kiri: you havenít been practicing those?

Carrie: no.

Kiri: oh well nevermind, I was going to give you some more.

Carrie: I mean well, things have been pretty good, I havenít really needed to.

Kiri: oh, okay but my offer still stands for when you get up here.

Carrie: okay, I just got to get up there.

Kiri: uh-huh, well Tiaís working on it. Yeah itís all part of her grand scheme.

Carrie: huh?

Kiri: itís all part of her grand scheme, Tiaís plans that sheís working on.

Carrie: ohhh, okay.

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.

Carrie: I miss who I used to be.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: I really do, I miss the things that I used to be able to do and the clairvoyance I guess you would call it that I used to have.

Kiri: yeah, well weíll work on that when we come out, we'll spend an hour or so with you, just you, KiriÖ..Iím saying my own name nowÖ..you, Tia and Karra. So it will be just four of usÖ..

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: so that weíll get everything worked out and weíll do some heavy-duty healing on you and Iíll get Karra to bring rubber gloves with herÖ..just kidding. She told me to behave myself.

Carrie: I was wondering what the rubber gloves were for.

Kiri: no, sheís not allowed to do that sort of thing.

Carrie: thereís only two things rubber gloves are allowed in my life, thatís gynecology and hairdressing.

Kiri: uh-huh and blowing up as balloons.

Carrie: okay.

(Carrie starts laughing)

Kiri: uh-huh. Yes but I suggested it and she said she wouldnít do that to you, wouldn't give you a full exam because she doesnít need to.

Carrie: hey, thatís rightÖ..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: I want to know......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: you guys got to tell me, whatís going on with all that alien and UFO stuff?

Kiri: weíll deal with that when weíre there in person becauseÖ.

Carrie: oh no, I got to wait?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: you know what my mom told me?

Kiri: what?

Carrie: I asked her too, you remember you guys told me to ask her?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: about her dreams and stuff like that?

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and she told me that she knows for a fact that Iíve never been abducted. She says it's just a motherís thing she knows. And I said, ďmom are you sure?Ē And she said, ďI just know youíve never been abducted CarrieĒ and I was like, ďwell I think sheís little too emotional to make that decision.Ē

Kiri: yeah but sometimes they donít have to abduct you to do anything to you.

Carrie: yeah.

Kiri: I mean they can do it right there and then but youíre totally shielded now so you havenít had any problems with that.

Carrie: no I havenít been feeling any weirdÖ

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: things orÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay now right, the plans forÖ..well just the sketches, you want me to draw a body in there as well, give you a picture with a body in there plus plan views and everything?

Carrie: well yeah, do what you would normally do for a sketch because I would love to seeÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: how you do it.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: I would just love to see that. Iím just really interested in seeing how youÖ..because when I was younger I used to draw sketches?

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: clothing? But everybody has their own different way of doing it?

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and I know you design clothingÖ

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: is what you do.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and Iíd love to see it done the real way.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: the way you do it.

Kiri: oh yeah.

Carrie: so do like what you would normally doÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: I would just like to see itÖ..I donít know, just out of curiosity maybe?

Kiri: okay, no problem at all, no problem at all. And okay next subject that I have to coverÖ

Carrie: we might be changing our phone number though because this house is in another town.

Kiri: yeah, well that's no biggie.

Carrie: so put your positive thoughts towards financing....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: this home because it is so beautiful.

Kiri: yeah you'll get it, you'll get it, don't worry.

Carrie: I have an idea in my mind that we're going to get it....

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: because everything is kind of pulling our way....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: and that would just take so much pressure off of me right now.....

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: if we went in and bought our own home.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: because I mean we're throwing away....you know how we're taking showers in the morning?

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: our tub is not draining and our landlords we've called them three times and they're not doing anything about it and so in the morning we've got to....

Kiri: get a bucket and.....

Carrie: and dump all the water down the sink.

Kiri: hmm.

Carrie: that's how we're doing it every single morning and it is just about driving me crazy.

Kiri: have you used any Drano?

Carrie: well I ordered some but it didn't come in tonight but see I'm afraid to do that because if it's not.......

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: clogged.......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: which I don't think it is because the last time we had this problem our drain was froze and then he fixed that and then two days later it came back.

Kiri: hmm.

Carrie: so I think he screwed up something in the drain.

Kiri: yeah, you might try a hairdryer on it.

Carrie: on the drain? We'll no because it was 60į today, it would've came out.

Kiri: oh, hmm.

Carrie: but all the other drains, everything else is working, it's just the tub's not working......

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and I'm afraid to put any chemicals down there because if I do, then we're going to be taking showers in the chemicals......

Kiri: yeah true.

Carrie: and the chemicals won't go down. We can only get so much water out of the tub......

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: and then the chemicals will be recycling themselves on our feet.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: so I don't know if I really.......I would wait until our product comes in. I'm going to try that and if it doesn't work, then I'm really going to get on the landlord's butt.

Carrie: yeah, I think you should. Okay, you got any questions for me?

Carrie: I had a whole bunch of questions for you but I can't remember them now.

Kiri: okay weíll set up for a private channeling session just between the two of us so that we.....well I've just been slapped on the butt and told that Tia wants to be in it and Karra's sticking her tongue out and saying, "whatís wrong with me?" So itíll be just the four of us.

Carrie: this is true.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: soÖ..

Kiri: yeah so itís okay. Anyway, Iím going to go and get Russ and Nicole back okay? So weíll be right back with you in a few seconds.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay?

(Kiri gets up and calls for Russ and Nicole but they donít hear her)

Kiri: okay guys, yo, hey guys.......oh party poopers. Theyíve run off and hid.

Carrie: where did they go?

Kiri: I donít know, I think Russ is upstairs. Karra says that heís upstairs listening to music.

Carrie: ohhh.

Kiri: heís got himself a new music system.

Carrie: see how he is?

Kiri: uh-huh. Are you comfortable in that chair?.........hello?

Carrie: are you talking to me?

Kiri: yeah, I just got you on the hologram again.

Carrie: who me?

Kiri: yeah. You remember how last time that we had a nice little chat just the two of us that you were on your chair?

Carrie: uh-huh.

Kiri: uh-huh. Oh, we'll get Mark to make that tape for you, howís that sound?

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: yeah and we'll get him to send it to you.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay? Because thatís got all the information and everything that you need.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay? And do you have a Sony Walkman?

Carrie: no but Iím going to get one.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Carrie: Iím going to get another one.

Kiri: yeah.

Carrie: I used to have one but Iíve been neglecting my Enya so Iím getting one.

Kiri: okay, no problem at all and Russ says that he has that piece of Enya that you and Mark were discussing and heís going to look it up for you.

Carrie: yeah, thereís a couple songs that I want to see if he can decipher for me because Iíd like to find a wedding chant.

Kiri: oh, for Mark to decipher for you?

Carrie: yeah.

Kiri: uh-huh, yeah heíll do it.

Carrie: because I donít understand Celtic.

Kiri: well there's several different dialects of Celtic I believe. Tiaís nodding that she says yes that thereís four different languages.

Carrie: I miss our past life regressions, thatís what I want, I want to do one.

Kiri: well we can do that, we can get Russ to do that for you.

Carrie: I havenít done one of those in a really long time.

Kiri: uh-huh. Anyway, we're going to let you go now because we donít want to run up Russí telephone bill.

Carrie: oh he can afford it, he told me other day he has so much money he doesnít know what to do with it.

Kiri: oh really? Hmmm. Okay, weíre going to put Tia on for a few seconds, she wants to say bye to you.

Carrie: okay.

(Tia pops back in quickly to wish Carrie goodbye)

Tia: okay sister mind.

Carrie: hello.

Tia: hello, Iím back, fierce and ferocious and bushy tailed. Yep, even my ears are twitching at the moment.

Carrie: I still want to know what you look like. I knowÖ..

Tia: yeah.

Carrie: donít I?

Tia: uh-huh, you know. Okay, well Iím going to say bye to you and I'm going to give you a big, wet kiss.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: let me move the telephone so I can blow the kiss.

(Tia blows a kiss Carrie's way)

Tia: there.

Carrie: oh thank you.

Tia: uh-huh.

Carrie: I felt it.

Tia: good, good, good, good, good, good and I will be down tomorrow and we'll work on the astral travel thingy.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: ow, Kiri just slapped me in fun, Iím going to bite her for that. Anyway Iíll see you later.

Carrie: okay.

Tia: okay? Bye sister mind.

Carrie: thanks for calling you guys.

(Karra next returns to say goodbye)

Karra: okay, Iím going to say bye too.

Carrie: okay.

Karra: okay you take care of yourself.

Carrie: I will.

Karra: and weíll talk again.

Carrie: I promise Iíll start working on my healing.

Karra: good, good, good, good. Bye, love you.

Carrie: bye.

(Kiri gives Carrie the final sendoff)

Kiri: okay, itís me last of all.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay and Iíll give you a special kiss.

(Kiri blows Carrie her kiss as well)

Kiri: there you are.

Carrie: got that one too.

Kiri: uh-huh. Love you as always, hugs, kisses and Iíll tell you what, weíll try that again in your dreams.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay?

Carrie: okay, thanks for calling, I love you guys.

Kiri: love you lots and Iíll pass on any messages to Russ.

Carrie: okay.

Kiri: okay?

Carrie: bye.

Kiri: bye.

(Kiri hear the phone hang up followed by a busy signal)

(Russ, John, and Nicole return to the channeling room as Kiri wraps up side one)

Kiri: okay, now to go and find these guys. Where are they hiding huh?...........okay thatís better. Yeah we had a nice chat with our sister mind, well Tiaís sister mind actually. Okay, you ready for the swimsuits when they go back?

Nicole: yeah, you'll have to post them to me.

Kiri: relax, your aura changed. Your aura just changed, whatís up?

Nicole: my login.

Kiri: oh, okay.

Nicole: it's unreal, itís got everything, it's got even classical.

Kiri: yeah.

Nicole: I donít really dig classical though about Enya and stuff like that......

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: but this DMX, I can't get over it.

Kiri: yeah.

Nicole: I'm going to have to get their details.

Kiri: up here I can pick music from any era, Earth era, Sirian eraÖ

Nicole: I know but the thing is I can't get up to your planet.

Kiri: uh-huh and Tiaís a very bored individual, she's as I told you, did I tell you sheís got three weeks off?

Nicole: hmm.

Kiri: oh Mark told you did he? Uh-huh yeah, sheís been told to relax and unwind, she was getting a little bit gloomy. Even I complained to Omal.

Nicole: we're going to see her tonight?

Kiri: yes sheíll be here.

(Russ and John enter the channeling room from the kitchen)

Russ: well I missed it.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: so this is off the record, hi Kiri.

Kiri: hey, howís it going?

John: am I saying your name right, Kiri?

Kiri: yeah, Kiri.

John: Kiri.

Kiri: Kiri. If you want my name in Sirian, I donít think youíll be able to get your tongue around it though.

John: okay go ahead say itÖ..if you can through Mark.

Kiri: I donít think I can manipulate his tongue quite and raise the accent thatís necessary.

John: okay wellÖ..




(Kiri returns for a few before handing off to her sister)

Kiri: okay, weíre going to put on the next person.

Russ: I rushed it out, okay.

Kiri: well actually I'm going to finish up the tea first. You donít have any questions for Omal do you?

Russ: yes I do but Iíll hold them off.

Kiri: yeah youíll have to hold them off until next week, Omal has not got out of his Council meeting yet.

Russ: Tiaís there right?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: ahh she'll be able to help me.

Kiri: no sheís not allowed to, Iím here to regulate. Sheís not allowed to answer any questions to do with politics or any of her work.

Russ: alright, well I'll give you the question and you tell me what she can answer.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: I want to talk to her or Omal, who can't talk to me, about contacting and who I should contact on the Internet and working with them on stuff with Hades Base and survival.....

Kiri: I have reason to believe that Sedona is on the Internet.

(John starts to chuckle)

Russ: yeah I've got to track it down when I get back on it but this is the kind of stuff I want to talk about.

Kiri: yes and also Ashtar Command is on the Internet, not us directly.

Russ: so...

Kiri: actually Tia could probably do that once she gets back to work is get on your Internet. Okay I'm going to put on Karra.

Russ: all right.

(Karra returns to answer questions we've been working on)

Karra: yes? Good evening.

Russ: so that half of Carrie's session, did you talk to her?

Karra: yes I talked to her.

Russ: good.

Karra: we had a nice little chat.

Russ: I'll bet you did.

Karra: and Kiri had a very nice chat with her.

Russ: I'll bet she did.

Karra: uh-huh. She enjoyed herself thoroughly, in fact both of them enjoyed themselves thoroughly. We had her on the monitor and as soon as Kiri started talking to her for the second time, her aura flashed brightly.

Russ: oh good.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: so that did good for her.

Karra: yeah.

Russ: so how are you my love?

Karra: Iím doing fine.

Russ: okay healing on the Internet sweetheart.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: what would you suggest?

Karra: okay first of all get information to see how it's set up as I said to the other day to you.

Russ: right the class is starting on Wednesday so I'll get more info on that.

Karra: yes, okay.

Russ: okay thatís how to get hooked into it, how would I look for somebody that would dealing with healing once I get on there?

Karra: you look under the section that says healing.

Russ: okay well hereís the thing, you remember a while back we were talking about going on the InternetÖÖwell the whole reason weíre doing this is to talk to people like in Africa and stuffÖ.

Karra: yes.

Russ: who know about ancient, herbal healing medicines and stuff?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: okay, so what I want to do is figure out once I learn what Iím looking forÖ

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: or no, how to look for what Iím looking for, how to findÖ.

Karra: yes.

Russ: what Iím looking for. What would I look for?

Karra: you would look for mystical remedies.

Russ: mystical remedies.

Karra: uh-huh. You would also look for traditional remedies, you would look for recipes. Johnny Iím sure could tell you that certain foods have effects on the body in certain ways.

John: yeah and my question right behind RussíÖ.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: can ask it now?

Karra: certainly.

John: okay, Russ is into the computer, into that Internet okay? Iím not into computers but Iím into healing, I'm into cooking and I'm into helping people.....

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and helping my family here and back east and in Sedona, I want to help people okay? So without the Internet.......

Karra: yeah.

John: am I following the correct path?

Karra: yes. What you would do is that you would ask.....say for example you wanted some information on herbal remedies of theÖ.

John: Native Americans?

Karra: yes, I was trying to think of a particular tribe actually.

John: I read your mind before you read mine.

Karra: yes, well I was trying to think of a particular tribe and I canít quite think of a name of the......

Russ: how about the Hopi?

Karra: no, Iím not looking at the Hopi, Iím looking at maybeÖ.

John: Anasazi.

Karra: no, Iím aiming more for the eastern coast.

John: okay, Iroquois? Algonquin.

Karra: yeah,

John: Algonquin, that is the key.

Karra: yes Algonquin is the tribe, they have a lot of information on healing. Theyíre still around today correct?

John: yes, yes.

Karra: I mean as we discussed in the past about certain chemical reactions that are caused in the body by inhaling a harmful herb. Well all herbs inhaled are harmful, some to a greater and some to a lesser extent but you have to weigh the good with the bad. For example, nicotine is not as harmful as marijuana to your lungs however, nicotine has other effects on the body which are more harmful than the buildup in the lungs than
marijuana. Marijuana on the other hand has positive attributes as does nicotine. Nicotine in excess can have some very bad effects as can marijuana in excess or any of the other......

(Karra starts to cough)

John: are you alright? Or is it....

Karra: I'm fine, I'm fine, it's Marks's body.

John: yes it's Mark's body.

Karra: yes, we're going to drink here.

John: yeah.

(Karra takes a drink of tea with the help of her sister to move Mark's body)

Karra: that's better.

John: can I ask you, was I Algonquin in a past life?

Karra: I donít know, youíre asking the wrong person. Youíd have to ask Omal and as Kiri pointed out, Omal is in a conference at the moment.

John: yes, yes I donít want to disturb Omal.

Karra: yes and itís just as well heís still in the conference, otherwise you would have a visitor that you wouldnít enjoy at the moment.

Russ: Ashtar?

Karra: yes, he is on the base.

Russ: I donít know.......yeah I do, forget it.

(Russ laughs at memories of past visits from Ashtar)

Karra: well put it this way, heís okayed Tiaís break from her work but he's not happy about it.

Russ: well he's probably not happy with us still.

Karra: I donít know, you guys have been behaving yourselves quite well actually.

Russ: weíve been pretty serious lately about our future and stuff and I asked Omal last week about going on to more serious stuff and he said no. He says keep on with the survival stuff and focus on the future and get that down, then worry about going back to meta-concert and stuff like that.

Karra: well actually I agree with Omal on the fact that last week you were discussing with Omal about looking forward to the upcoming problems.

Russ: well I don't know but......

John: I wasn't here last week but I've been living this whole lifetime......everything, my education, everything I've done has leaded up to this breakdown in this third dimensional space we're in.

Karra: yes.

John: okay, I've lived my whole life and focus, I knew it as a young child before I knew about metaphysics....

Karra: yes.

John: before I knew about channeling, I knew I was living for this.

Karra: yes. Okay letís move on to the next topic of discussion as we touched off a very sensitive nerve that would be better for Omal to answer.

Russ: okay, letís get cheery.

Karra: uh-huh. Carrie, sheís doing fine.

Russ: is she pregnant?

Karra: no but weíve given her some techniques that will help.

John: howís my sister doing?

Karra: oh sheís doing fine, I havenít been able to monitor her as much as I would like to but from your conversation that you had, she seems to be doing fine.

John: did you monitor our conversation?

Karra: not personally, all telephone conversations in your habitat do get monitored......for protection. Okay now, let me see what else. Okay, I donít have anyone else off hand and youíre out of luck Russ.

Russ: say what?

Karra: youíre out of luck.

Russ: oh is it that?

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: oh.

Karra: but Alanaís spending a little bit more time at home, she doesnít like the rumors flying around even though that they are true.

Russ: where is Alana?

Karra: she should be asleep at the moment.

Russ: good.

Karra: uh-huh. Okay Iím going to put Kiri on.

Russ: all right.

Nicole: see you.

Russ: bye my love.

Karra: itís been a pleasure to meet you......

Nicole: yeah.

Karra: and I look forward to talking to you.

Nicole: Iíll ring you.

Karra: okay.

Russ: yeah because she'll be talking to you from Australia.

Nicole: uh-huh.

Karra: you take care of yourself.

Nicole: I will.

Russ: I get 12 hours free.

Nicole: thatís only within the states.

Russ: bye love.

(Kiri comes back to spend time most of her time talking with Nicole.)

Russ: hi Kiri.

Kiri: yo.

Russ: whatís up sweetheart?

Kiri: oh you know, slippery when wet.

Russ: yeah, all six foot three of you there.

(Kiri is actually six foot one.)

John: slippery when wet?

Kiri: itís an Earth saying isnít it?

Russ: yeah it's on the roads around the lake.

John: is that kind of like a sexual innuendo there.

Kiri: oh Iím sorry.

Russ: no sheís talking about the road conditions out right nowÖ..

Kiri: yes.

Nicole: they've got signs saying slippery when wet.

John: oh itís really slippery out there right now.

Russ: yeah.

John: itís snowing, slipperyÖ.

Russ: sheís reporting road conditions to us, arenít you Kiri?

Kiri: yes, yes, uh-huh.

Russ: thatís what I thought.

John: oh I thought you were talking about your lovers........

Kiri: oh yes.

John: silly me.

Kiri: yes, I do have a long list of them.

John: yes I know.

Kiri: where do I start?

Russ: don't start.

Kiri: okay letís change the subject, Nicoleís blushing.

John: well I didnít mean to embarrass Nicole.

Kiri: okay, down to serious business. Okay, questions.

John: whatís Ashtar and Omal doing?

Kiri: I donít know, itís a big Council meetingÖ..

John: okay.

Kiri: so itís veryÖ..that area is secure. The only person that would have any inkling of whatís going on is a lieutenant by the name of Lyka.

John: yeah, okay and I donít think Lykaís going to talk to us tonight.

Kiri: no sheís not because sheís down there personally doing guard duty.

John: okay.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: okay the price of oil just droppedÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: okay? Now Iím looking at the macroeconomic situation on the planetÖ.

Kiri: yeah.

John: and Iím curious about the wholeÖ..

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: input and outcome on the major countries.

Kiri: yeah.

John: Australia, United States, Canada, Mexico, China, what used to be Russia or what used to be USSRÖ.

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: and Europe, the whole impact. I mean is thereÖÖis the oil going to affect the macroeconomic situation?

Kiri: well there are some countries that have a larger supply of oils that can be used. I donít know, youíd have to ask Tia and Tia has been as I've stated banned from bringing her notes, sheís not allowed to be ring mistress........

Nicole: but we're allowed to talk to her aren't we?

Kiri: yeah, oh youíre allowed to talk to her.

John: okay, can I ask why Tia has been given these limitations?

Kiri: because she needs to relax and unwind, sheís been getting like a coiled spring and she didnít tell me and she didnít tell Mark but she's been having a few little minor problems relating toÖ.

Russ: sense of humor.

Kiri: well sense of humor we were aware about and I did mention it to Omal but sheís been having a few little medical problems.

Nicole: she might be pregnant again.

Kiri: no she canít be.

Russ: she doesnít get pregnant for another 12 years.

Kiri: 12 years?

Russ: nine years now.

Kiri: no, itís a five-year cycle I think.

Russ: oh so itís three years.

Kiri: yes. But sheís been having a few minor, little ailments which is related not to stress but the fact that sheís been making herself unwell. For one she's been having aches in her fingers and it's not carpal.....

John: arthritis?

Kerry: no it's not arthritis, it's something that is native to her race. Also she's been suffering from pinging in the ears which is again native to her race and being super-sensitive hearing, that is very painful for her and sheís been hiding it from us. We wouldnít have known about it if she hadnít gone in for a full checkup the other day.

John: how could she possibly hide that from you with you being in your sixth dimensional reality and all your technology, how could someone possibly hide that from you?

Kiri: well she just doesnít go to the doctor like sheís meant to and she hasnít because sheís been saying sheís been too busy with work and weíve been letting it slide. Also the fact that she can block Mark and myself out from her intimate level and by masking the pain. Itís quite simple or it seems simple to us.

John: well okay, well quite simple to you but fascinating to me.

Kiri: uh-huh. You'd have to ask Tia the reasons why she was doing it, I donít know. You have a question, youíre sitting there very patient?

Nicole: I'm just listening tonight.

Kiri: oh you are? Are you being self-conscious about being caught on the recording again?

Nicole: no.

Kiri: okay.

Russ: well this is just her last one for a whileÖ..

Kiri: yeah, uh-huh.

Russ: until we call Australia and hook up with her.

Kiri: uh-huh andÖ..

Russ: sheís going back with your bathing suit designs though.

Kiri: oh yes thatís right arenít you? Uh-huh okay we'll keep you supplied with them. You have the designs that we drew for you correct?

John: theyíre here, they're intact.

Nicole: yeah.

Kiri: okay.

John: or they were here, they were intact.

Nicole: theyíre over there.

Kiri: yeah, you'll be taking them with you.

John: yeah, yeah, theyíre here.

Kiri: the colors donít matter, whatever color you want.

Nicole: oh, you know what I got to show you?

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: here we go.

John: yeah theyíre here.

Kiri: okay.

Nicole: Kiri?

(Nicole breaks out a Spyder, one-piece ski suit she had bought on her trip to the states)

Kiri: ohh, nice colors apart from I wouldnít have quite soÖcan you turn it around? I wouldíve had a......instead of writing
Spyder, I wouldíve put a spider on the back.

Nicole: it says
Spyder on the back.

Kiri: no I would have put a spider on the back, eight-legged. Also what I would do is I wouldíve done this whole entire side red and then kept all the colors splashed over there but thatís me personally.

Nicole: I like it a lot.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: no she doesnít like it, pure lust.

Kiri: I was about to say itís missing something.

Nicole: God, what could be missing?

Kiri: well I heard a comment that was made by Russ, it was relayed to me by Karra who thought it was funny.

Russ: which one?

Nicole: he's made many comments about it.

Kiri: I was just wondering whereabouts it was or why it doesnít have one?

Nicole: oh.

Russ: oh yes.

Kiri: she did it again didnít she? She relayed back in reverse to you.

Russ: yeah.

Nicole: Kiri, I don't want to talk about that last part.

Kiri: thatís twice I've made you blush tonight. Iím sorry, I do apologize.

Nicole: I thought youíd like it.

Kiri: it is nice, I do like it

Nicole: I like the neck on it.

Kiri: uh-huh, the only thing that I donít understand but there again we do have materials that hold in the heat and let moisture out is the thickness of it. I mean they look nice certainly but itís something Iím not used to.

Nicole: I need to wear a skivvy under this.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: a what?

John: and the thing is, donít judge this garment lightly because you havenít seen itÖÖI donít know if youíve seen itÖ.

Nicole: uh-huh.

John: with Nicole wearing it and it accents her beauty quite nicely.

Kiri: uh-huh, oh well I havenít seen it. Come on put it on, come on put it on, put it on.

Nicole: okay but I hope Russ doesn't say anything.

Kiri: Russ, put your hand over your mouth.

Russ: I wasn't going to say a word, I'll zipper my mouth right now.

John: I mean me, I analyze a garment from practicality as far as pockets and hoods and sleeves, removable sleeves and insulating capabilityÖ..

Kiri: oh it has removable sleeves?

Nicole: yes.

(Nicole zippers up her ski suit)

John: yes, it has removable sleeves, it has a hood and itís by our third dimensional standards, it is very well-designed.

Kiri: yes it is actually, oh I do like that, oh that's sensible. Can I have a look at the other arm? And that one is........thatís very sensible.

John: and wouldn't you say that Nicole looks totally bitching wearing that?

Kiri: I would say she looks totally cool.

John: and she knows I mean that as a compliment.

Kiri: yeah, huh-huh.

Nicole: stop embarrassing me, thank you.

Kiri: thatís three times tonight that sheís gone red. Reno huh? Yeah weíll send him down, you take him......

Russ: itís on South Virginia.

Kiri: what weíll do isÖ.

Russ: about a mile from the casinos.

Kiri: what we'll do isÖ..

Russ: this side.

Kiri: weíll take over Markís body....

Russ: right side of the street.

Russ: you drive down there and weíll go in and buy.

Russ: okay.

Kiri: how many cases of wine do they normally run at?

Russ: well it would cost you $14.99.

Kiri: okay.

Nicole: Kiri, why do you compare the price of something with cases of wine all the time?

Kiri: because thatís the only way I can work it out is that when I send off the material or rather when I finish a completed outfit, they pay me in wine which I trade for other things.

Nicole: who pays you?

Kiri: well Iíve got a dealer back on Sirius who takes a percentage.

Nicole: alright.

Russ: right.

Nicole: because if we do something with thisÖ..

Kiri: uh-huh.

Nicole: like I told youÖ..

Kiri: it was Tiaís idea.

Nicole: all right but whatever, if this gets all like into operatingÖ.

Kiri: yeah.

Nicole: you and....I'm sorry, Mark and Russell are getting a percentage.

Kiri: uh-huh, what is it? Tia says that it was 30/70?

Nicole: yeah something like that.

Kiri: yeah a 30/70 split. Okay that's.....

Nicole: 70 for me, 15 for for you and Mark.

Kiri: thatís 15 each.

Russ: works for me, I hope youíre a millionaire babe.

Kiri: I think sheís going to make a million.

John: and I hope I'm just a ham sandwich in the whole project.

Russ: we may get some wine out of it too.

Kiri: uh-huh you see I mean I enjoy designing swimsuits and I do it for pleasure. The fact that I get cases of wine, it runs at about case and a half, two cases depending on the design for each swimsuit which would be about how much in your currency Russ?

Russ: $220.00.

Kiri: see?

John: yeah, 12 bottles to a case?

Kiri: uh-huh.

John: how many bottles to a case, twelve?

Kiri: yeah twelve.

John: am I correct?

Kiri: twelve average unless Iím going for something special if I want a particular vintage and and then itís normally six to a case.

Russ: now if itís a less expensive wine........now weíre talking Sirian claret.

Kiri: uh-huh.

Russ: $120 a case, a hundred bucks minimum.

Kiri: yeah.

John: okay.

Russ: it's the good stuff.

Kiri: well it comes from the Dolle regionÖ

John: okay, now totally separate, what about doing a swap?

Kiri: a swap of what?

John: I'll give you some wine and you give me some of your wine.

Russ: well....

Kiri: we'll I'd like to.......

John: Iíll leave a case of wine at a designated areaÖ..

Kiri: I would love to but I wouldnít get the clearance. It comes under frivolous usage which I have gotten into trouble in the past for and so has Karra.

(for a quick trip they made to Sirius)

Russ: yeah.

Kiri: Tia is the only one that hasnít gotten into trouble for it.

Nicole: unbelievable.

Kiri: uh-huh. Okay, any more questions?

Russ: whoís on next?

Kiri: Tia.

Russ: no, no more questions.

John: no more for me.

Kiri: okay.

Nicole: see you later Kiri.

Kiri: take care.

(Tia notes Mark's altered breathing during Kiri's transition)

Tia: that's a sloppy changeover Kiri, Iíll have to give her some pointers.

John: how do you mean? Define what you just said.

Tia: no, the changeover from me to Kiri was very sloppy.

John: how was it sloppy?

Tia: she had Markís breathing suddenly go (Shoooo) out the window.

John: okay and thatís not good for Markís body?

Tia: not good at all.

John: whatís MarkísÖ..

Tia: energy level?

John: energy level right now?

Tia: itís at about 60%.

Russ: monster energy.

Tia: uh-huh, he had a nice, relaxing evening and it was my idea for that present for Carrie, I thought she might like it.

John: have you interacted with me directly? I get the feeling you're crawling into my brain and helping me to a certain degree, are you doing that?

Tia: kind of, I nudge, I nudge. You have a very wide reception level so itís easy to receive information and be nudged. You donít have one particular wavelength that you stay on. I think it might be a side effect of probably your various habits but Iím only guessing.

John: is that a positive or a negative attribute?

Tia: I can see both possibilities. One is being able to receive on a wideband might end up driving you batty but there again it can be useful.

John: okay, is there any keys you can give me to help? Because itís part of my personality and you are correct.......

Tia: uh-huh.

John: and I mean is there any any advice or keys you can give me to help me focus more?

Tia: Iíd have to do some research but unfortunately I donít have acÖ..Karra said that sheíll do some research for me and she will tell you.

John: good, thank you.

Tia: but thatís going to have to wait until next week.

John: what are you hunting for?

Tia: oh sorry, I was going to talk to Nicole. Iím hunting holographic deer with nasty, pointed antlers. Well actually it has two single antlers and theyíre about this long.

Russ: those arenít deer.

John: oh yeah, itís a species of deer.

Tia: itís a Durondedunn species.

Russ: we call them antelopes.

Tia: itís a Durondedunn species.

John: yeah, not with horns that long.

Tia: it is on my home planet.

Russ: oh, so theyíre Durondedunn antelopes.

John: and how do you hunt them? Do you mind me interjecting here? How do you hunt them? What method do you use toÖ.

Tia: just my bare hands and my speed and my skill and my brain.

John: and you kill them?

Tia: well theyíre holograms actually but on my home planet yes, youíd kill them by breaking the neck.

John: okay, do you ingest the meat?

Tia: yes, uh-huh, thatís the reason why we hunt them.

John: and itís very good eating?

Tia: oh, very good eating, itís beautiful.

John: you utilize the hide and the horns and all of the meat?

Tia: yes, everything is used on my planet. Everything from the intestinal tract to the brain, every part is used. The bones are used to ground down to make powder for various ceremoniesÖ.

John: okay now as far as the intestinal tractÖ.

Tia: uh-huh.

John: do you use that to make sausage?

Tia: no, we use that as fertilizer. The lining of the intestine, yes that would be used to make baggies.......

John: baggies is sausages, is it Sirian?

Tia: well thatís what the translation from Durondedunn to English would be, would be baggies.

John: okay but the baggies are full of meatÖ.

Tia: yes, uh-huh.

John: is that correct?

Tia: full of meat, yes.

John: thank you.

Kiri: uh-huh, we use every part.

Russ: I hope you're educated now okay?

John: thank you.

Russ: oh by the way, howís Terri?

Tia: sheís doing fine, I saw her the other day actually.

Russ: oh, how sheís doing? Is she like healthy, glowing, radiant?

Tia: yes she is actually.

Russ: talk about me at all?

Tia: not that much.

Russ: oh great.

Tia: uh-huh, yeah she came out of seeing her doctor when I was going in to see mine.

Russ: oh.

Nicole: Studley Hatfield.

Tia: I donít know. Kiriís had him, sheís giggling at the moment.

Russ: oh well.

Tia: uh-huh, Iíll stick with my one man.

John: yeah until I astral project myself up there.

Russ: no, sheíll still stick with one man.

Tia: Iím happily married thank you and I enjoy it tremendously.

Russ: see, got to admire faithfulness.

John: thatís right, works good.

Nicole: uh-huh.

Tia: yeah. I mean Iím not being unÖ.


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