Archivist Notes: This month's podcast is
named from a innocuous comment from Karra while
discussing our race's ascension to our next
evolutionary achievement. A higher dimensional
existence or taking on the challenge of an earth not
yet populated but waiting those ready to start life on
a higher dimensional version of our planet existing in
the same space as the one around us. While the subject
of a sixth dimensional earth had been discussed with
more detail in previous sessions, this was the first
podcast where it had come up in a discussion.
Omal gets the session started with a recap
of world events hitting the news and how the photon
cloud may have played some part. That gets expanded
into the growing isolationist movement within the
United States at at that time and how it hadn't worked
out so well for the countries that had embraced that
stance. It is the disrupting of the information flow
that is the problem to be avoided and spoken out
against should that happen as it would be
counterproductive to the topic of the session. More on
the photon cloud is covered as well as the ozone layer
and how civilizations flourished or faded based on the
cycles of weather or external factors that have have
brought about their collapse. Kiri gets her part of
the session going with a correlation between the age
of the pyramids and Sphinx and when civilization began
some 10,000 years ago in Egypt. It is the second half
of her talk where she goes in-depth on how guides work
with the person they are guiding, including bringing
in another guide to shake things up if needed. The
lifespan difference between humans and Sirians brings
to light one obstacle they face in progressing to the
7th dimension. An enlightening end to the first half
of the session.
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the races with
contact with humanity.
brought up was
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and those who
track and the
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at our future
of an earth
ready to progress
to the sixth
on a sixth dimensional
will come a
enough will be
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as well the
we'll face but
how worth it
it will be for
Omal: that is good. Okay, let us get
down to business and start discussing
upcoming events and occurrences and
also past events. We will start in the
past and proceed into the present and
then finally, hopefully into the
future. Okay, first of all letís go
over the past three weeks and the
occurrences that have happened within
those last three weeks. Let us travel
back a little bit further to
approximately a year ago when a
of communiquťs were released with the
various situations going on in other
parts of the world and some also being similar parts
of the world. It appears to be a cycle
that takes place in early September
and goes right through getting
progressively worse until it gets the
point where it becomes
necessary to monitor. As we have seen
this year compared to last year, this
is far worse. In previous years it
appears to be a continual trend on an
upward level of aggressive actions,
political unrest, social and economic
unrest and also planetary unrest. The
reasons why the planetary crusts and
shifts occur more frequently in the
later part of your year is as you
approach closer to the Sun on the cycle
which during your winter youíre
actually closer to the Sun than you
are during the summer. The pull seems to be
more intense at this time. The photon cloud
certainly has played a part in this
and it seems to me that the increased
gravitational effects have been more
pronounced recently. This is also part
of, if you study closely, you will notice that
this plays very much into sunspot
cycles. Also the effect of these
earthquakes do have a social and
economic nature attached to them
making the struggle even harder. You
will notice in manufacturing parts of
your world an increase in prices. If
you look at various events going on
right now in the present, youíll
notice that there has been a lot of
precipitation activity in North
Carolina, first of all from
hurricane Floyd and now from hurricane
or tropical storm Irene has dumped a
lot of water on these producing areas
which in turn has an economic effect
which would be?
Russ: higher prices.
Omal: that is correct which in turn
puts a burden on the production and
the retail side. So you see the
problem. Now moving a little bit into
the future, we see as the winter gets
more closer in the northern
hemisphere, that there will be more
concentration on survival as opposed
to unrest. For example, this time of
year, Chechnya is becoming cool, the nights
are definitely getting
longer, the temperatures are getting
colder. Itís a very
mountainous terrain and therefore as
winter gets near the fighting will
taper off however,
before that arrives there will be some
big pushes. It seems to me that Tiaís
analyzing what occurred and saying
that she was incorrect in that it was
the rebels that had caused the
problemÖ..that it was the Russians that caused the
problem and she corrected herself by
saying that that was incorrect and it
was a small minority that was causing
problems for a large majority. What
appears to be happening now is
unfortunately Russia is attacking a
small minority in trying to stabilize
the area and in doing so unfortunately
the majority is being harmed by both
sides. Now there is a situation
occurring in Belarus at this time
where a more of a shall we say a
old-style Soviet dictator is
jockeying for position and power and
could actually present some serious
problems. He is trying to reunify with
Russia into a greater Russia so that
it would give him more influence and
power and the dictator is a little I
hesitate to say dangerous but
certainly somebody that is worth
watching and itís very reminiscent of
the early Soviet Union under such people as Lenin
and Stalin. That is something that is
worth watching. Last week there was
also a comment made by Mme. ambassador
(Karra) in regards to a possible isolationist
movement occurring within the United
States. That is a possibility but one
at this time that needs to be
downplayed but watched carefully for that movement. At the moment we do not
see anybody strongly suggesting an
isolationist movement but if that was
to occur, and that is a possibility,
it would be something that would be a
benefit in a very, very short run and
in the long run would be very
detrimental to the
United States even
possibly leading up to a breakup of
the United States which again would be
very unuseful for a global society and
economy. However, we do not see that
as a strong potential, just something
very minor and worth looking out for
and maybe if necessary becoming very
vocal in your capacities against this
and not leading a charge but certainly
getting the word out there against a
isolationist movement. In the past,
any country that has isolated itself in the
short term it has benefited it but in
the long term it has been very
harmful. To give a few examples, the
Peoples Republic of China is one
example, another example is Japan and
finally the Soviet Union. The
isolationists tend to end up being
more backward in the long run. Okay,
having covered the past, the present
and the future, let us open up for
Russ: okay, the situation happening in
Russ: how does that differ from the
situation that happened between
Indonesia and Timor?
Omal: it differs in the fact that it
is a totally A, different set up, you have a area
where a lot of damage has been done by
a very small minority of individuals
to an external power. I have not seen
a small group of individuals attacking
Indonesia from East Timor. Conversely
it has been the opposite in East Timor
that it has been the larger area
attacking the small
minorityÖÖor majority in that area but
overall. So they are two totally
Russ: but prior to that before this
current problem back when Russia was
trying to quell Chechnyaís bid for
independence where there werenít
anything like you know movements into
Russia to actually to use terrorist
Chechnya was just a smaller power that
was basically a former part of Russia
but still considered a protectorate
and then they wished to be completely
independent of all kind of rule from
Russia and set out to make a stance
Omal: unfortunately Chechnya is one of
these areas where I hate to use the
term backward but they are certainly
not in an ideal position
to be able to be independent from an
area which is very beneficial for it. It is a
shortsightedness that is national
pride which is certainly a good thing
to have but to be aware that for a
better and greater
certainly should be protected and
looked after and trade, not
necessarily in commodities but trade
in all sorts of possibilities with
someone such as the Soviet Union.
Russ: hmmm, and Timor of course is now
I guess the worldís newest nation.
Omal: and one that is unfortunately
not very capable of supporting itself
independently from Indonesia.
Russ: correct which brings me to that
point I had just brought up.
Skip: it doesn't have the economic
Omal: that is correct.
Russ: going to be propped up by world
governments until it can actually get
itself on its own feet which might
Skip: thatís what I was looking at,
yeah it may never happen.
Russ: so Iím wondering how much of a wise move it
was for anybody to really rock the
boat, especially Indonesia and its
efforts. I think could have been done
a little more diplomatically to
maintain Timorís dependence on Indonesia.
Omal: unfortunately it is something that when somebody
sees the opportunity to be
independent, "we can be our
own country", national pride is
something very powerful and has caused
many problems in the past. If you look
at some of these nations that have had
great national pride within
themselves, they have normally
ended up in deep
trouble. If you look at your history,
you can see many instances of that and
people do not learn from those
historical instances. A lot of people
do not even
know the history of those.
Russ: well Iím sure itís not
restricted to just this planet.
Omal: no unfortunately, it seems to be a
condition of the third dimensional
Russ: unfortunately I have to assume
that would be correct. Until we get to
that higher dimension where we can
understand that all is all, we're
still stuck with independence and I am
me and you are you. Okay, oh oh Skip, let me go and pass
the ball over to you for a few.
Skip: do what?
Russ: do you have any questions?
Skip: no, no, no. Iím just listening.
Russ: okay. Now in the isolationist
movement Karra talked about America
and staying out of things, isn't
the question more or less though even
if there was an isolationist movement
that due to the Internet and the
greater communications available to
people that you canít really maintain
an isolationist movement due to the
fact of the amount of information
coming in from the world would pretty
much incense enough people to stifle
any movement that might be started?
Omal: no, it is very easy to cut
Internet access from the outside the
world to an area. You saw that very
recently what happens when a important
communication center is made inactive.
Russ: what, Faxdave(?)
Omal: no Iím talking about yesterdayís
Russ: oh, where
Microsoft went down.
Omal: now imagine if it was
deliberately set up that telephone
communications could not get into your
country. Would you have an Internet
external after that?
Russ: I don't know, isnít
there also a satellite system that's
Omal: certainly and satellite
transmissions can be very easily
Skip: they could jam that.
Omal: very easily.
Skip: that can be jammed okay?
Omal: so therefore it is something
that would be very easy and if people
were being monitored or major leaders
were being monitored, they could be
manipulated in a way that they would
receive erroneous information that
would be altered as it were, it is be
very easy to do.
Russ: hmm okay.
Skip: in other words, you could coerce
Omal: very easily, it is the Internet
on that side is more dangerous than if
you were having information coming in
through the Internet, all's you have to
do is alter it slightly and it serves
Skip: changes its whole meaning.
Omal: correct, a few choice words
here, a few choice words there and
things would change as Skip pointed out
their meanings totally.
Skip: just like, can I make a personal
Omal: but certainly.
Skip: have you ever been in class when
they have what they call a pass a
Skip: when the teacher whispers
something to the front student and
itís passed all through the class and
by the time it gets back, it ainít
nothing near what was said to begin
Omal: I believe a good example would
be an incident in the First World War
where I believe it was a US Marine
force was about to attack Belleau
Woods and the order was
whispered down the line ďsend for
reinforcements, weíre about to
advance.Ē By the time it got halfway
down the line, it was ďsend two and
four pence, weíre going to a dance.Ē
Omal: so it is very easy to do.
Skip: people do not repeat what they
hear, they repeat what they think they
Omal: okay, let us progress, let us
answer more questions please.
Russ: okay, you mentioned the photon
cloud and that's
something that we havenít really dealt
with in a long time but itís something
since you brought
it up, worthy to
Russ: at that time when we last
discussed it we were on the fringes of
it and itís been approximately about a
year since then that we discussed itÖ.
Russ: and Iím curious as to how much
of that cloud are we starting to
really fully get into now?
Omal: youíre starting to see more
denser patches, youíre still certainly
very much on the fringe of it but it
is certainly more further in then you
were last year and therefore like a
cloud where you first get into the
fringes and it is very light and wispy
and you can still see around you,
youíre now into patches where it is
more dense and you cannot see out of
but a few moments pass and you're into a
more wispy area progressing into a
more denser area.
Russ: okay, as such the results and
changes that might occur because of
Omal: I believe we covered them pretty
extensively when we were discussing it
about a year ago when we initially
Russ: I was going
to use it on the
website, I canít remember what I wrote
Omal: ahh, you do not have shall I say
Russ: I only have short-term memory.
Omal: ahh, I see humor going backwards
and forwards. Okay, more questions
Skip: yeah, yeah, yeah I have one. We
have destroyed or punched a hole in
our own ionosphereÖ..
Skip: I've heard reports from
different sources within the last six,
eight months that itís slowly closing
itself back up, is this true?
Omal: that is correct.
Skip: okay, then that means that the Freon isnít being
discharged like it was years ago?
Omal: that is correct.
Skip: okay, all right, I just wanted
to verify that.
Omal: now something that I may add to
that is that the ozone does regenerate
at a lower level is a health problem, high-altitude
itís a protectorate. So the ozone that
you generate that adds into such
things as smog is actual fact
something that is being generated and
repaired. However there is a natural
cycle involving the hole in the ozone
layer over Antarctica, it will decrease
and increase. For your species to be
concerned about it, is very wise to be
concerned about it however the
knowledge that you have of the natural
cycle of the hole in the ozone layer
over Antarctica only covers maybe 30
years, 40 years at
most. So you really donít know the cycle and the long-term
effects that are being attributed to
the ozone layer. Now too much ozone in
your atmosphere is again a problem. Do
you know what happens if you have too
much ozone in your upper atmosphere?
Skip: it probably replaces the oxygen.
Omal: up at that altitude that is not
Omal: because it is again part of the
Omal: it gets thicker and denser and
then it thins out and moves around and
there are quite a few different things
that go on with the ozone layer that
youíre not fully aware of. As I
stated, you have at most 40 years worth of
what the ozone actually does.
Skip: in other words, it acts like a
magnifierÖÖexcuse me, I didnít mean
Omal: oh certainly.
Skip: it acts like a magnifier.
Omal: in one way yes.
okay that makes sense.
Omal: just as you start to name
phenomena using Latin names, I donít
mean you personally but I mean your
local scienity. Such things as El NiŮo
and La NiŮa are pretty new terms in
your vocabulary that until recently
werenít understood or even named so you had four dry years of
extremely dry weather where you had a
drought. Conversely you had a number
of years where you had a wet period
and high precipitation. These are not
new phenomena, theyíre just old names
being revised to replace phenomena
that was, ďokay it was a bad winter,
it was a good winter, it was a dry
winter, it was a wet winter.Ē Now it
is looked upon as new terminology and something worth
Skip: inventing words for old terms.
Omal: more old terms, the El NiŮo and La
NiŮa are terms that were introduced by
the Hispanics when they came from
Spain into the new....what you call
the new world.
Skip: uh-huh, we are the New World
Omal: so it is something that if you
were...if the indigenous aboriginals
of your area had kept written records
of climate, temperature, precipitation
and so on, you would see a very
distinct and definite pattern after
all. A lot of the civilizations that
have been around, if there records had
survived, you would have two, 3,000
years worth of
records which would give you a very
interesting pattern that would be worth studying
and analyzing and seeing the regular
cycles. Those cycles are not clockwork regular
but they are within five years of a cycle which
over two to three
thousand years, is fairly
regular. Okay, any more questions?
Russ: uh-huh. Since
weíre on cycles, a quick
question on that is, are we at the
point of a
cycle where had we better records we
can keep more track of this but
through the civilizations since the
dawn of man where social phenomenon, I
mean natural phenomena sets off social
pressures that have either increased
or decreased the populationís ability
to deal with it where
you see civilizations go under or
build up due to
natural phenomenon and the pressures
held back by that.
Are we like unconsciously or subconsciously
those pressures again as the cycle
reaches it point?
Omal: certainly, certainly. If you had
extensive records for the last let us
say 5,000 years of natural events,
space events, solar events, you would
see that there is a definite cycle and
civilizations either flourish or
become extinct on how they handle
those events. If you were to take
something like the events of Atlantis,
you would see that there are certainly
very interesting cycles that a
civilization if it survives becomes
much, much stronger. Conversely, if
the civilization is hit by it and is weakened,
eventually the civilization fades away
and becomes extinct. Theyíre not just
natural phenomenon. If you take for
example the Incan Empire, as soon as
they had contact with the Western
had serious problems and eventually it
became an extinct civilization.
Russ: couldnít handle the pressure.
Then what about with Rome with like say
Pompeii? Pompeii happened just about
the last part of Rome.
Omal: yes that certainly had an
interesting factor in it. It happens
in I believe 75 A.D. which definitely
wasnít the end of Rome.
Omal: Rome flourished for another
couple hundred years. The rot that was
causing the problem for Rome had
already started at that point, this was just a factor
that occurred and
caused problems later on. Certainly
there were a number of very prominent
and well-to-do individuals that were
caught in both the catastrophe at
Herculaneum which did play a part in
the more widespread corruption that
developed later on.
Russ: hmm, okay. Well done,
thank you. Thanks Omal.
Omal: not a problem. No more
Skip: no not for me, thank you.
Omal: okay, live long, prosper and I
will be back.
(Kiri takes over as ring mistress.)
worth studying, phenomena
what we do know of from records that have been
discovered and civilizations beginning
or ending shortly thereafter.
Skip: well from what I understand is
astrologers that are studying
and whatís going on in the universe are coming up with
a lot more history than they have before.
Russ: hmmm, you mean like what place where
the stars were at when a
civilization was rising
Skip: yes, yes, yes. See because some
of the lights from the stars are still
there even though
the star is gone
millions and millions of light-years
away so the light is still there but
the star could
possibly be gone.
Russ: hmm, interesting.
Skip: okay? So
they're.......with the new computers
and new telescopes that are being
theyíre coming up with more and more
and more continuous.....itís amazing
how much information they're coming up
with. Iím sorry I didnít mean to
Kiri: oh thatís
quite all right, quite all right.
Actually you brought up a very good
point that I happen to have a little
bit of an interest inÖÖyouíre going to
love this one Russ. There is a theory
on your planet that the pyramids are
obviously older than they actually are
and so is the Sphinx.
Kiri: this is
because a theory is going around from
a tomb that was discovered a little
bit earlier than the pyramids that has
a landscape picture of the River Nile
and overhead is in
alignment is the Magellan
Kiri: and within
the picture of the landscape is a
construction, a very early
construction of a
Russ: great pyramid?
Russ: thought it looked almost
like a swampy area too.
Russ: which is definitely not holding
up with when the pyramids were said to have
been built which would be a dry deserty area.
Kiri: uh-huh and,
if you do the maths and run the
computer simulations which has been
done, you would find that to have that
exact alignment of the Magellan cloud
and Orion....or whatís the Osiris are lined
up in the configuration may have it would be much,
much earlier than previously thought, considerably
Russ: well that would explain the
water runoff onto the Sphinx which
definitely points to a much wetter
climate then when it was built.
Kiri: which puts
it at currentÖ.
Russ: or survived.
Kiri: wait for
the numberÖÖ..puts it current 12,000
years for that particular alignment to
Russ: 12,000 years BC?
Kiri: now, from
Russ: from now.
Kiri: well from
Russ: year 10,000.
Kiri: 10,000 BC.
Russ: BC, 10,000 BC was before any
known civilization was upon this
Skip: not anymore.
Kiri: uh-uh, Skipís quite
Skip: not anymore.
Kiri: they now
that there was a civilization in Egypt
that was developed, very developed
10,000 years ago.
Russ: I hadnít heard that yet.
Skip: didnít they just findÖ..oh mercyÖ..I got to stop
and think. Didnít they just find a
petrified person that is 50,000 years
old at right at the present and this was just
discovered less than a month ago?
Kiri: it is very
possible that they have discovered
another one. There was the famous
gentlemen discovered in the Alps that
was estimated to be 8,000 and had very
extensive herbal knowledge.
Kiri: but that
was quite a few years ago.
Russ: 50,000, that puts itÖÖ
Skip: that puts it way back there.
Russ: so that puts it back at
Skip: pretty close to it, yeah.
Russ: which would beÖ.that wouldn't be an
Atlantian, that would be an indigenous
species of the
planet at that point.
yeah because that wasnít discovered on
the coast, any of the coasts, it was
discovered inland and I think if Iím
not mistaken, it was
discovered in North America in Canada.
Russ: well 50,000 years ago, North
America was much different than it is
Skip: well yeah.
Kiri: there was a
Skip: there was no Atlantic.
Russ: oh yeah there was.
Skip: no there wasnít.
Russ: 10,000 years ago? Sure there
Skip: it was part of Europe.
Russ: no it wasnít Pangaea, Pangaea
broke up 50 million years ago.
Kiri: oh a lot
longer ago than that.
let us see what mischief we can
create. Okay, spirituality, where were we
last time we talked? We were dealing
with spiritual side of guides and the
development of the gentle prodding, the gentle
directional control. The slow, gentle guiding hence the
ability of a guide.
Okay, now having talked
to my grandmother and she again is
very hesitant and reticent to give us
any definite yes or no's because of the
nature of her monastic life and the nature of
the business that sheís in or as she
put it, the nature of the beast, there
are certain things that she obviously
would not disclose to us.
(Kiri and Karra's grandmother is a nun
high up in the mountains of Sirius
with guides and those on the
other side as needed.)
but guides seem to
serve more than just coaxing and
pointing and advising and prodding for
action or a particular pathway. There
is almost a symbiotic relationship
between the host or the guidee from the
guide. But yes, one does need the
other, it is a mutual symbiotic
relationship that both have. Certainly
there are times where a guide will
gain as much knowledge and experience
one individual and move on to another
or where an individual no longer is
the actions of a
guide. There has to be a certain
similarity and personal behaviors
between the guide and the guidee.
This is because if you have two
totally, radically, different
personalities, they cannot work
together for a mutual beneficial
advancement. So that
a guide that is temporally there is an
antagonistic influence is there purely
to push somebody in the opposite
direction at the request of another
guide so that the antagonistic nature
forces the person to go in the
direction that the guide that is more
permanent wishes that individual to go
by using the antagonistic attitude of
a guide that has a more opposite
attitude and persona
than the person being guided.
I can see that's opened up a can of
Russ: is signs of guiding others in
our physical world a sign that weíll
be a good guide or a guide in our
necessarily, not necessarily.
Sometimes guides are purely working
with just the living, that is all they
are interested in, that is all that
they need to learn. There are guides
that as you progress and become older
are more both. So it really depends on
incidences where guides will hand over
at the point of departure from one
group of guides to another group of
guides but a majority of it is as you
progress later into life, you have
guides that are there for the
crossover, for the departure.
Russ: I donít think I got that question
right, maybe reword it maybe. If for
example I like working with someone in
like a school kid or something for
Russ: I want to help them out to learn
how to become a better adult and so on
and so forth or
I go to retirement homes and help out the
elderly and maybe teach them various
skills like computers or something
like that. Is this a sign that when I
die, I would naturally progress toward
being a guide for someone who is
necessarily, not necessarily. You
could be setting yourself up for that
certainly but there again you can also
be equally be giving a gift of
Russ: like the pilot part that we were
Kiri: uh-huh but
actually doing it physically.
Kiri: whilst being able
to do it more strongly than if you were in a guiding
Russ: oh, oh, oh,
and the whatever one
Mark was talking aboutÖ.
Kiri: yeah I got
to watch both of them.
Russ: how did you like "Always"?
Kiri: it was
okay, I like the one a little better.
Russ: hmm, I havenít seen of other one
so I can't tell
Kiri: it has more
meaning, itís more out to save a life.
Russ: oh, I really like Richard
Kiri: uh-huh, I
thought he was funny but itís a little
bit confusing in spots how they
portray the guide
of a guide.
Russ: oh you mean....yeah
what's that ladyís name where?....yeah
right, I got it.
Kiri: uh-huh, you
know the time, it
gives a distortion of time.
Russ: and as such you know we donít
really have much of that concept to
look back on our history like when we
talk about the pyramids being built at an earlier age and such....
we have no way
how to really grasp how many
tens of thousands of years have passed
since even the earliest known parts of
the pharaohs whole
for us to really even grasp much less
you even try to shoot
for the dinosaurs.
Skip: well what
do they figure, 5,000 years? For the
Skip: some 5,000
Russ: right. For me, I canít
think that far back but yet here were
talking about instances in
civilizations rising up 10,000 years
ago which is
Russ: I canít grasp that kind of time
Kiri: well the
thing is that when you donít have the
long life expectancy, yeah a hundred
years is a long time, a 1,000 years is
a hell of a long time. For us, that's
like 10,000 years. You know to look
back on a race that is 10,000 years
old, you know that is a long time for
us. A 1,000 years, the average life
expectancy is somewhere between 850 to
900 years, thatís a long time for you, for us, itís a
Skip: yeah, for us itís
Russ: yeah, we canít think that far.
Skip: we canít think that far because
weíre talking about our lifespan is one tenth of that
Russ: we're like candles burning
Skip: and they go out quicker.
Russ: and they go out quicker.
Kiri: which yeah
brings us back to the Sirian problem
of the dwelling, the thinking because
we do have the time and to us time is
a concept of, "well,
we've got between
850 to 900 years, no hurry, why hurry?" And that takes
that in itself is a problem whereas
for you the other problem is that you
donít have enough time to achieve everything.
racing around to get it done.
which is something that happens to us
later in life when we realize that
time is starting to run short. Yeah,
being a race that is known for its
dwelling and contemplating, itís
certainly been a problem for us. Itís
something that until I think we as a race address that
problem, we wonít progress higher.
That for us is
our learning lesson in the sixth
dimension whereas yours is learning to
be spiritually active in a third
dimension. The sixth dimension is
definitely learning to realize that
there is a time where you do have to
hurry and a time where you donít have
or it is a matter
of finding that equal balance whereas
for you, you donít have that 850 to
900 years leeway time, you have at most
maybe a 100 hundred, a 110 years.
Russ: thatís what I like about these
channeling sessions, is that we're
both helping each other grasp those concepts
because we're in so much interaction
we're working with here plus
our twin soul mind linkup that we have of course
helps us immensely.
Kiri: oh immensely yes but
you know for us our guides are
just as aware of the time difference and the dwelling
difference. For us they are of a much
than are for you. So that the
development is very different for our
guides as opposed to your guides.
Kiri: now if you
take somebody that lives in the now,
in the moment, take for example Sarah.
She lived very much when she was free
and realized what
was going on, she lived in the now.
She knew there was the possibility of no tomorrow and the past had been so
radically altered and changed for her,
that it was very difficult for her to
look to the future so she lived in the now.
One of the problems if you look at
people of great age in our planet and
on your planet, let me take a couple
steps backwards here for a second.
First of all, a new child or a child
lives in the tomorrow, always in the
tomorrow. There is no past for a
child, everything that has happened in
the past is hearsay for that child so
it lives in the now and the tomorrow.
As he gets
older, there is a past so you draw a
little bit in
the past of the good old days or
"remember when we were younger,
remember this?" But you also live in
the now and
the future because tomorrow you have
to get up and go to work and take care
of the necessary
needs for tomorrow. But as you get
progressively older, it becomes more
of the past then the future and the
now until finally and
especially if you have a life
expectancy of a race such as ours,
you dwell a lot in
the past. If you take somebody such as
our sleeping tree, (Treebeard)
he lives a lot in the past but still
has the one important thing that keeps
him going of the quest for knowledge.
Kiri: I mean
there is more of yesterday for him
then there is of tomorrow.
Skip: I think that same thing holds
true with our 3-D existence.
Kiri: oh yes,
very much so, IÖÖ
SIDE ONE ENDS
(Kiri starts side two by
picking up from side one.)
Skip: just I hit what
we call a stagnant point.
Kiri: uh-huh, it
is something that is very common in
any species that has a mortality
factor that when you reach the point
of that you no longer desire to learn,
you no longer desire to proceed with
tomorrow, then it is
certainly the start of the time to depart.
As long as you keep looking to
tomorrow and the now, certainly dwelling
in the past is good because from the past, what do you
Kiri: keeps you
Kiri: you know
that if you go outside after showering
on a cold winter's day,
youíre going to get sick, you may even
die on a
really cold day.
Skip: I have a question darling.
Skip: a person that has passed their
they continue to teach, they're also
Skip: and by
doing that, they're
prolonging their own existence.
Kiri: uh-huh. Now
Skip, hereís a
question, do you think youíve passed
your halfway point?
Skip: yeah I'd say so.
Kiri: maybe you
havenít, maybe you're going to
live to be a 130.
Skip: well itís not likely but itís
possible, itís possible, you donít know.
Skip: no I don't.
could defy all the odds and live to be
Russ: medical science comes around and
gives you a new cure to extend your
Skip: rejuvenate me. (Laughs)
exactly. You honestly canít say that
you have passed the
Skip: well in our current existence
and current beliefs and current
scientific revelations, yes I have
passed my halfway point.
Kiri: no, you may
have, you may have. You may actually
live to be 130.
Skip: well like I say, itís possible
possible so you donít really know.
Skip: no I donít know, thereís no way
of me knowing.
Skip: but I consider myself past
Skip: that doesnít mean Iím going to
kick off tomorrow, I donít mean it
Kiri: no but you
can always keep on telling yourself,
ďmaybe I am going to
Skip: well I
figure about 130.
Kiri: think of the wonderful
that you could see,
think of the wonderful things that you
could teach, think of the experiences.
Skip: well darling, actually I never
thought I'd make it to 30 let alone
Kiri: well there
you go, you see? Okay but what IímÖ..
Skip: yeah I understand.
Kiri: is that we
really donít know. I mean you could
honestly live to be 130 or 140 so
therefore you cannot say that youíve
even at 130, Iíve got to the halfway
Kiri: uh-huh, not quite.
Skip: well rightÖ..
Kiri: yeah just over.
140. You don't know, you don't know.
Skip: you keep stretching it out there
Kiri: you really
Skip: no I donít know, no nobody does.
Kiri: maybe you
have enough Sirian blood to make it to
850? Wouldn't that be a shock? (From a
life with Kiri prior to this one.)
Russ: well now hereís a concept, the
fact that we do die and reborn and
reborn, we really are immortal so time
difference as far as that goes is
something we have to take into the
fact that well this is merely our
current period of awareness but weíve
got more current periods of awareness
ahead of us forever and ever and ever.
Kiri: yes exactly
but the thing is
that the condition of the third
dimension is you donít remember the
Skip: thatís it exactly, see we have no
concept of what happened in our past.
occasionally you see glimpses and
dreams or emotions and thoughts and so
Skip: right but we canít continue.
Skip: in other words, when we lay
aside this body or existence or whatever, this
lifetime and go to the next one, we
canít continue experience wise into
the next life.
Kiri: no you
Skip: we canít take it with us.
Skip: our knowledge, our experience,
our education. We
do take parts of it, donít
Skip: itís just like we talked about
this before a couple years ago I
Skip: where did I get my mechanical
Skip: my dad couldnítÖdidn't know one
end of a
screwdriver or hammer from the other. My
mother was not
she was a farmer.
Kiri: uh-huh, no short term memory
loss there is
Skip: yeah, where did I get my
mechanical ability to walk into any
situation, take it apart, repair it,
put it back together and make it work?
Russ: well the
point is our memories are locked
inside of us.
Skip: well true but you still canít
call them up.
Russ: but I wonder if somehow, someday
be able to figure out a way to do so to where youíre
born, you get to a certain age and
suddenly they put you in a machine, the machine
reawakens all your memories from your past
youíve got all this experience and you
go on to the next part like the Dalai
Skip: the only way that I could foresee that
becoming into an existence would be
record your memories from your
particular body before you schuck it off.
Russ: yeah but how do you get them
back once you come forward?
Skip: well theyíd have to be recorded
and this has been
science fiction for many years about
recording a personís memories and
experiences and replacing them in that
person when they come into existence
you would have to know where that
person is going to go in their next
Russ: right thatís the trick.
Kiri: uh-huh, that's the trick.
Skip: thatís their trick.
Russ: thatís the Dalai Lama like I
thatís how they do it.
Russ: they find, they have all these
tests to find where that personÖ
Skip: has gone to.
Russ: incarnates into in his next life
and then that person is given a
certain amount of or given certain
rituals that he goes through to
reawaken those memories and then he
remembers all those other past lives
as Dalai Lamas to aid him in this life
Skip: thank you sweetheart.
Kiri: Iíll be
back. Donít forget,
Iíve got the tight shorts on and the
waistcoat and the whip and the tall
follows his mom as the next speaker.)
Leonedies: greetings and felicitations
and welcome. Okay, weíre getting
down to business and weíre starting
looking at personnel possibly
happening soon for the upcoming
discussions leading to the
conferences. I am making myself
available at this time again to be
able to answer questions in a way that
will facilitate a beginning to the
discussions necessary for the lead up
to the conferences. Okay, let me
Russ: okay, the gentleman who will be
representing Sirius for these
conferences has been narrowed down to
I believe it's three candidates?
Russ: four candidates.
Leonedies: first of all, may I correct
in saying gentleman is an incorrect
Russ: oh correct.
Leonedies: it could be either.
Russ: my mistake. And the parameters
that you are currently looking for is
someone who could have an unbiased
view of our planet and its history and
the people upon it correct?
Leonedies: or rather having the knowledge
of your planetís history would be
detrimental for the individual that we're looking at.
Skip: can I ask a question? Have you
came up with any candidates from this
Leonedies: that is something that you
would have to discuss amongst
yourselves and search amongst
yourselves. I believe you are looking
for a group of individuals
approximately anywhere from 4 to 8
individuals, is that correct?
Leah: okay, those individuals I
believe will make themselves possible
candidates or individuals will make
themselves available as possible
candidates that will be agreed upon by
everybody else that is involved in the
discussions being from your planet,
not from other species.
Russ: right, the other channels for
Skip: oh, oh, oh, I see what youíre
saying okay. In other words, we have
to get in contact with
these other people......
Russ: thatís what weíre doing
Skip: and start fathoming
this thing out.
Russ: but what heís discussing now is
the candidate from Sirius who will be
representing Sirius in these
Leonedies: a person that might be
beneficial for your planet that has a
linguistic skill and capable of aiding
in this may be was the young lady
present last week.
Russ: hmm, I hadnít thought of that.
Leonedies: there is one representative
from your planet, now to find
Skip: oh yeah.
Russ: not as easy calling.
Skip: thatís not aÖÖ..
Russ: okay now, are there questions
youíd like to ask us to assist in your
have all the information that we have
gathered necessary for our decision,
the only question that I would have
that would be worth asking is that a
strong linguistic capability and not just one
language would be beneficial correct?
Or the ability to learn many languages
would be beneficial?
Russ: correct but strong in English would
be the best bet so primarily English,
secondary and trinary
Leonedies: okay now what form of
English would this be?
Russ: this would be standard, I would
say American English due to theÖ..
Skip: I would say American slang
Russ: itís been the most common
planet right now as far as its use and
availability to all the inhabitants of
the planet and the Internet.
Leonedies: okay that is the only
question that will
serve any function that I would ask.
Russ: so really our
questions wouldn't have any effect
your decision soÖ.
Leonedies: not at this time.
Russ: Iím not really quite sure of
what I would ask anyway.
Leah: I am available to answer
questions in regards to the set up and
Russ: okay, excellent. Weíre
discussing currently a slight hitch
weíve run into as
far as our medium for exchanging
information among the inhabitants of
our planet. The current mode of
transfer of that information was an
Internet site called Spirit Web.....
Leonedies: I am aware.
Russ: which has now changed their
format to make it much more obnoxious
Leonedies: obnoxious is an incorrect
Skip: irritating, irritating.
Leonedies: irritating is acceptable. Obnoxious is a
reference to a gaseous substance that
Skip: itís just irritating thatís all.
Russ: as such, a idea on how we could bring
about a change in this would be of
course voicing our opinion, anything
on your end?
Leonedies: that is something I cannot
get in involved with but it is
something that needs to be rectified
and remedied. Another option is
something that my mother
Leonedies: something like that.
Russ: yeah, instant
message. HmmmÖwell ICQ chat? That
might work. Itís similar to Spirit Web except itís
in a chat frequency allowing only
certain numbers of people in that are
allowed in. So therefore all channels
can be brought in and chat among ICQ
chat, the conversations
could then be
distributed from that point because
all that text would be saved to
Leonedies: that is correct.
Russ: thatís a possibility I hadnít
Russ: you can put
lovely letters in
there too and nice colors and everything.
Okay thank you, thatís a goodÖ
Leonedies: I believe a different color
for each species but each species will select its
own different color and particular type once
conversations start commencing for
the preparation for the conferences.
Skip: one question DanielÖ.
Skip: have you selected a site where these
going to be taking place?
Leonedies: we were hoping a discussion
through your Internet forum.
Russ: we're hoping Spirit Web.
Russ: okay and so in the meantime.......but hereís
the other point is thatís one idea and
the ICQ chat and then distribute it on
Spirit Web is another.
Skip: is this eventually going to come
down to face-to-face people in a
conference area or is this always going to continue
the Internet medium or a communication,
it would be ideal
if all species were
that is something that, using the Sirian problem, is
not a immediate problem. It is something
that will take place at the
appropriate time. The
appropriate time is an indeterminate
time at this point. When all races
feel equally comfortable and do not
have a problem
with the appearances of other
races. There are certain races
a problem where the
other race appears repulsive to
another race, then
that would be the time to meet
face-to-face but in the meantime we
have to use the faceless
communication method through
your medium of the Internet. Ideally
it would be suitable and ideal to
speed up the process would be to have
it face-to-face but unfortunately
because of certain natures and personalities
and functions and appearances and
cannot happen at the moment. There are
a few races that
do have problems with the appearance
of other races so that in itself is a
problem that will be eventually
addressed and remedied.
Skip: in other words what you donít
understand you fear.
Skip: I can't believe that.
Leonedies: it seems to be a
problem of the third dimensional
species overall, not just the human
species but all species that has that
same root cause.
Skip: yeah I can believe
that, I can see that, I can
Skip: no, not for me.
Russ: nor me.
Leonedies: okay thank you.
Skip: thank you.
Russ: thank you Daniel.
Leonedies: and oh, Leonedies or Daniel works either way. For
your web reference, it
is best to be Daniel.
Russ: right, that's
what I figured while using
for the tape
Skip: yeah right, thank you.
(Kiri transitions from her son to her sister.)
Skip: excuse me, Iím sorry.
Kiri: thatís quite alright.
Kiri: I give
you away, ishue, itís a Sirian word. It
means the same thing basically, ishue.
Actually itís a Highland word. I wish
I could get him to slow down.
Skip: well heís doing fine, heíll slow down.
Darling, heís got to learn.
heís got to learn butÖ..
Russ: heís not dwelling
Skip: just let
him know heís doing just
fine. As long as we can understand him
thatís all thatís necessary.
Kiri: thatís true
but itís actually funny to hear him
talk in Sirian with other super
operants, they do talk very, very
Kiri: very, very
Skip: as long as we can understand him, thatís all
occasionally they donít even talk
vocally and they will talk on the
declam mode which is where everybody
can hear and they
will talk very fast and you will get
what would take us on the declamatory
mode five minutes to say, they will say it in one of two
Kiri: and if weíre talking
letís say that vocally, in the five
minutes that we
talk, thatís more like a 20 minute
Kiri: so that gives you an
idea of the speed that they think and
talk at. And they have their own
communication and they would
deliberately talk very fast so that we
canít pick them up on the declam mode.
Kiri: okay, I
better put on theÖ
Russ: the illustrious and wonderfulÖ..
Kiri: the pompous
one and I can get away with saying
that. Oh pompous one, oh ambassador
one, oh gifted one.
Russ: oh specialÖ.
Kiri: special my
(Karra starts off with a sisterly compliment.)
Karra: and a very pretty
right tit that is too, hello.
Russ: hello my love.
Skip: how are you doing darling?
Karra: Iím doing
Russ: the cheering squad over here.
rivalry, it is worse
you and Mark sometimes.
Russ: oh I can imagine. I canít see it
for being as worst than ours but I
Karra: oh I donít
know. There are things that go on
between my little sister and myself
that you cannot believe.
Russ: itís kind of funny.
Karra: it is like
our fiscal rivalry, I canít touch it.
Russ: right and she makes a deal out of that I'm sure every once
in a while.
Karra: not vocally but
sometimes visually. For example,
buying a brand new set of custom-made
skis that even though I enjoy skiing
tremendously, I would not consider
paying the quantity of favors that my
little sister paid.
That would be exorbitant and she does
even flinch or bat an eyelid.
Or how expensive
her clothing is or how expensive her
gifts are. To me that is
something that makes me wince but she
does not flinch,
it doesnít seem
to affect her in her trade good
capacity, she always ends up with
more. However I do have more land and
Russ: and more charm, skill, beautyÖ..
Karra: careful, don't forget he will
will hear this recording and he would
beg to differ which is acceptable. Okay,
let us get down to more serious nature
and get away
from the humorous, frivolous side. How
much time do we have hon?
Russ: sweetheart, we have got
currently 25 minutes.
Karra: okay. Okay let us start
discussing things. The idea of
bringing Leonedies in...Daniel in was that you know, it is
needed to keep the discussions
going. Yes I was a little optimistic
on the date for setting
everything up, maybe other individuals
that are receptive that do not have a
sympathy one way or
the other way but has the best interest
of your species.
It would be necessary to set up a kind
of questionnaire but it would have to
be one that would be acceptable to
all species involved within the
discussions. Let us get this out of
the way first before we go into more
Skip: darling question.
Skip: you're saying setting this up
and picking and choosing or
recommending whicheverÖwho are you
having in mind to form this particular
committee to choose and pick the
people or candidates for this?
Karra: we donít
have anybody in mind because weíre
trying to minimize our influence with
your species as much as possible so
that you decide yourselves. We cannot
tell you who the ideal people are.
Skip: okay thatís fine but I
understand that you canít infer your
influence, I understand that but we're
only two or three individuals in a whole
Skip: for some reason or another, the
concept of doing this is getting away
from me or itís
out of my comprehension.
Karra: I see the
problem that youíre having is that you're trying to
figure out how is it going to be set
up with your species.
Skip: yeah, correct.
Karra: okay, what
is being looked at and is hoped is
that people that are at a spiritual
point in their life that know that there
is another level are
the ones that are candidates
for the discussions to be involved for
of your species on a higher level, on
the sixth dimension which is something
that will happen naturally at the end
of an individual's cycle when they're ready.
The best way to describe it is that
individual departs and they are being
reborn and they are ready for the
sixth dimensional life, they will be
reborn on the sixth dimension or they
will be held until there is enough
individuals, this is up to them, Iím
speculating I must add that....there
will be enough individuals available
to have a healthy community on the
sixth dimensional earth.
Skip: okay but I understand where
youíre coming from but to get back to
this. What I see
happening is probably more than a million
candidates to come into this
particular realm of being chosen,
picked, qualified or whatever to be the spokesman
for our planet.
You understand where Iím coming from?
Karra: oh I
understand and I understand the
concerns that youíre having that such
a small group, having so much power
Skip: no, no, no, Iím not worried
about the group,
comes down to the....what
figure, 4 to 8 people being chosen as
representatives of our planet?
Skip; whatís bothering me is
who or how the peoples of our planet
are going to sort out them 4 to 8
people to represent us.
Karra: I think
itís more of a matter of holding back
those that aren't suited because I
believe thereís going to be a lot of
people that will want the job that
have their own personal interestsÖ..
Skip: yeah I understand that too.
Karra: and their
own personal agendas. To use a quote and I
donít know where it comes from, "the
person least, the person best suited
for the position is somebody that
actually doesnít want it but will take
it on upon themselves and do the best
that they can." Those are the
candidates that actually are more
suited than those that want it. Those
that want it are
actually the least suited.
Skip: theyíve got ulterior motives.
Russ: well Skip,
your number of a
million is fairly optimistic. If we
were to take and put the questionnaire
here that Karra mentions into Spirit Web and to ask everybody
whoís on Spirit
Web and most of
those folks are along
the same lines we are to go ahead and
put in the question, fill out the
questionnaire and send it back to us
so that all
the races can review that person, at
get a 100 questionnaires returned.
Skip: no thatís not what was bothering
me Russ. We're only looking at
one facet of this, just one facet and
youíre looking at a
diamond thatís got so many facets itís
Skip: because youíre talking about a whole world,
you're not talking about just one
talking about the whole planet.
Russ: well we
canít really involve the whole planet
because we can get that much
information access to the whole
Skip: yeah we do.
Russ: to everybody on the planet?
Skip: to the people that are
spiritually aware, yes all over the
Skip: even though we're connected with
Spirit Web and
the Internet, how many people are we
connected with in the Spirit Web and I know
that I would say probably 50% of them
are not spiritually aware, they're
just in there to bullshit, excuse my
Russ: excused, no problem.
Skip: okay, so they have no concept of
what we're talking about, theyíre just
in there to rap their jaws at
Karra: uh-huh and
Skip is quite correct but I would say
that the other 50% are the ones that
go to other spiritual chat places,
other spiritual chat rooms and maybe
they contact 50%
of the other chat rooms. And I would
actually drop it down to 40% are spiritually
aware and active but those 40% contact
40% elsewhere and 40% elsewhere, itís
like one person telling ten.
Skip: because youíre
awful lot of a person.
Skip: I mean this is a hell of a big
challenge for anybody.
oh it is, it is a very much a very
big challenge but the benefits that
will come are so incredible. The best way to
describe it is you're betting
everything that you have on a horse
Skip: yeah but you know itís pretty
hard to put your faith into one person to
represent the whole planet when you can't even
put your faith in a person to
I know, I watched that with interest and Russ and myself had some
Skip: you know thatís a tough one.
uh-huh, well thatís why we think
that a committee or not a committee but a group
of individuals between 4 and 8 is ideally
suited because there would be
between them toÖ
Skip: to keep each other honest.
correct which is very,
Skip: yes they have to.
it is even better if they are
antagonistic to each other because
if they agree on one thing, that is
good because that one thing is
important then. If they fight and
different things and agree on one
item, then that is the important
Skip: thatís scary, itís scary.
oh it is. The way that it looks like it's
setting up is that the conflict
within the group representing your planet is
very necessary to be able to form a
united front and to have an interest
skip: rather than somebody's own personal
Russ: clarification please, now we
have a 4 to 8 person committee that
you are talking about and we have
channels for the representatives for the various
So were talking about a total of
perhaps 16 people?
Russ: roughly 12 to 16 people?
Russ: that were talking about. Now
the channels themselves, we're not
going to have a lot of leeway on who
we can get since the species
themselves really only channel
through........well they could
channel through anybody but
unfortunately only a few people on
the planet are actually channeling
Skip: have that talent.
Russ: accessing themselves on the
Internet and make the information
available for people to track down
Russ: so, my suggestion is we set up
a separate webpage designed to
attract those people who we can then
work through, we explain the
conference, like a whole conference
webpage separate from the Hades Base News.
Russ: that is based on what we're
looking for or what is needed for
the conference I should say and
people to respond with their ideas,
their applications letís say, their
resumes, spiritual resumes, Iím just
making this up as I go and go
looking for channels to represent
let me say that we will be getting a
visitation again from Monka and various
other high officials in Ashtar Command that
will make themselves available. They
will not tell you anything, you will
ask them and
they will answer the
questions in a way that well I'm not too
sure what their way is but we're
expecting them sometime in the first
quarter of next year.
Karra: okay, any
more questions for me?
Russ: no, Iím set.
Karra: I've need to go and deal
Russ: thatís got my head going now
Skip: thatís why I was rapping as much as I was
because it just very.....
Karra: well any
questions or comments that you have
are greatly appreciated.
Russ: well it's
a good little line we're the going
off on now that we
really needed to
go on that I
hadn't really thought of
brought it up so.
Karra: voice any
concerns that you have Skip.
Karra: okay, Iím
off, I need to go and deal with
Russ: okay, have
Russ: whoís next?
Karra: I'm putting my little sister
Russ: bye love.
(Kiri closes out the
session with a
Kiri: you did a
number on her though, didnít you Russ?
didnít mean to darling.
headlights came on and everything.
Russ: ahh well, a little fun and
frivolity this evening.
Russ: okay, well we worked on the
separate webpage, got any ideas for me
Kiri: me? Hell no.
Russ: oh come on, yes you do and you're just
Kiri: Iím just "Miss Rich Bitch".
Russ: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come on Miss
wonderful ideas you, what do we got that we can play
on this webpages that
will help this conference get
off the ground?
Skip: yeah because we need to start
putting it together.
Russ: we need to start getting putting
it together fast.
semicircular table with a selection of
flags very much like your United
Russ: hmm, I like it.
Russ: like the United Nations flags
the table with flags around it and
just make a
different flag for each species.
Kiri: the flags are blank until
the species submit their flags.
Skip: hey that
Russ: you guys got
a flag you want to submit? Hey I
already know one, what an I talking
about, the Ashtar
Does that work for Sirius?
Russ: oh, nevermind. Does Sirius have
Kiri: yes, kind
of, itís the binary system
on aÖ.you donít even have that color.
Russ: well that could be a little
Skip: yeah that is going to be a
Russ: Karra is not giving me nothing I
can work with.
Kiri: no and I
canít because we donítÖÖ.you donít
have that color. I could come up with
something that would work but again
that would have to be dealt with with
the representative from Sirius.
Russ: well yeah, there you go, letís
have him decide.
Russ: her, whatever.
Kiri: do what we
do, the representative. Gender is not
Russ: okay. The rep.
Skip: how about Mrs. ambassador?
ambassador is unable to do that
because she is the
Skip: oh no, I was is talking about
just the flag itself, nothing else.
Kiri: ask Mme.
ambassador? At the moment I
would say asking her
any questions when sheís ohhhh.
Russ: I canít help it.
Kiri: she canít
help it either and there goes my toy
selection for the
Russ: oh well.
where were we? Okay........
weekís schedule we will have briefly,
probably if she feels up to it, Miss buff that
wants to fight everybody at the
Russ: oh cool.
Kiri: hopefully weíll have Tia back but maybe
not but I wouldnít count on that as if it remains
quiet, Tia has
been invited to numerous places on
Sirius. All expenses will be taking
care of, the Cubs are invited.
Skip: thatís neat.
Russ: wow, VIP
Skip: thatís neat.
Kiri: oh yeah, I
have a feeling Omal set that up.
Skip: yeah, Iím sure he did.
Kiri: at the
moment, Tia is
camping on the beach with the Cubs and
Mark's down there and if the back chat
that I'm getting
that's going on at the
moment, they are feasting
on fish, freshly caught fish.
Skip: good, great.
Russ: sounds like an enjoyable time
and I look forward to it. Iíll start
working on webpage ideas and got a
report for you dear, when do you want
this dang thing?
Kiri: okay, next
Skip: Treebeard will be here next
Kiri: heís here
right now but heís sound asleep. I
sent Alex to put a blanket over him
and get a cushion. He is out cold and there's a
rabbit on his chest so heís not going
anywhere and then thereís Piglet thumping around
in the bamboo with I think if I get it, his
Skip: all right darling.
Skip: got a lot of information tonight I do
we're going to have
to....well wait a minute, what kind of
we're going to
have to put in the
have to put together an application.
Russ: thatíll be a chore right there.
Do we have to wait for
the representative from Sirius or do we figure out
figuring out one yourselves.
Russ: yeah, that's what we're
going to have to
Skip: wouldnít have to figure out one
ourselves. We canít use Sirius' input,
we have a
do it for ourselves.
Kiri: that's right.
that I say and suggest you cannot use.
Skip: thatís correct.
that Mme. ambassador, my horny sister suggests.
Skip: yeah I
felt asking about was the flag that you want to
use as your
representation. To representing
Sirius, that's the only thing I
was asking about.
Russ: I thought
Ashtar Command was being represented
on Sirius? Or Ashtar Command and Sirius?
Russ: so we can do a flag with the Ashtar Command's
Russ: I can do that, I've got that ready to
Kiri: I cannot
give you any information at this point
because immediately I do that, Iím influencing things.
Skip: thatís right see, so each race will
have to submit their own flag.