uh-huh. Okay, letís get down to business.
First of all, stock market. In the past two
weeks it's dropped approximately 400 points,
thatís one and a half percent. Nobodyís
screaming and yelling blue murder at this
point however there are rumors wafting
around of it developing into a bear market
instead of a bear slash bull market where it
fluctuates and oscillates. Weíll see what
happens before we start issuing general
best not to put any money in there right now
I take it?
actually you could get some real good deals.
yeah, thatís probably true.
uh-huh, itís a matter of sitting and
waiting. When you play the stock market,
itís not get in quick and get out quick,
itís get in and wait and watch and pick the
right ones. Wouldn't you agree?
Tia: first of all, stock market
update. Up 2% for a grand total of up on the
day 257 points blah, blah, blah and this is
quite expected but it is the biggest jump
ever..........but it still hasnít recovered
the 3% that it dropped. So, the stock marketís
doing its thing and Iím getting tired of going
over stock market things over and over again
because every time I say something it happens
and Iím sick and tired of it. Can you blame
me? Whatís that snicker for?
Russ: well itís a dissertation,
thatís a rhetorical question right?
Tia: no, itís not a rhetorical
question this time.
Russ: oh, okay.
Tia: are we sick and tired of me
repeating basically the same predictions over
and over again?
Russ: I don't know, we've only put
it in once in the webpage.
Tia: well once is enough. Okay,
now, dissertation let me see. Well, growth I
think is a good topic to start on, growth and
understanding in development and consciousness
and from my standpoint of view.
(One of the house cats can be heard outside
Russ: no, I wonít let a cat in thatís making
those words. So where was I, oh yesÖÖhmmmÖ
Tia: growth and development and
being. Constantly learning is something that
is very important, if you stop learning then
you stop progressing and advancing. The
necessary struggle involved in the growth is
the important thing that by struggling you
grow and in growing you want to grow more so
it is necessary to have the correct kind of
watering toÖÖ..and weíre getting sworn
at.........the correct kind of stimuli is
important to continue the growth in whatever
avenue is necessary for the individual to
choose. In doing so, they have to set
themselves goals and objectives that they are
consciously aware of and by being consciously
aware of these goals, you can head to the
objectives which in turn are nearer to the
subconscious goals on where you want to go and
what lessons you feel necessary to learn. For
example, letís seeÖÖworking with computers as
that seems to be the topic and flavor of the
week. By learning new computer systems and
trying to figure out problems, stimulates the
mind in such a way that it becomes active and
craves the necessary desire for the work to be
done. As you well know Russ, constantly
learning new things is very important and by
doing so, you achieve a state of constant
growth which is what you want. Unlike a stock
market which goes through cycles of growth and
retraction, growth and retraction and I
deliberately repeat that as an example that it
goes through a cyclical motion whereas by
growing and learning, you do not go through
the cyclical motion because learning one thing
leads to questing and knowledge of the next
thing which in turn makes you want to go to
the next thing and the next thing and it
constantly keeps your mind active and being
regenerated in a sort of way that gives it the
necessary impetus and ommph to continue on
your learning quest and you do not need to go
over the same lessons over and over and over
again. Certainly there are some lessons that
need to be repeated and hammered home, but
once they have been learned, you progress on
and by progressing on you move to the next
objective that you set yourself. Any
Russ: yeah just being born is
basically starting off a cycle of growth
Tia: correct but some people, they
get to a point in their lives where they no
longer are interested in growth, theyíre
interested in only doing the same thing over
and over again.
Russ: well for example, as with
the stock market, doesnít that represent some
Tia: yes, it is a cyclical thing
that they donít learn from.
Russ: well letís say they grow and
then they fall back and then grow and fall
back and grow and fall back.
Tia: thatís not growing. If you
listen to what you said, it is not growing.
They grow and fall back and then they grow
again. How can you grow again you havenít
learned the lessons?
Russ: well because you learn the
lessons you go to a higher level.
Tia: no, no, no, no, it
Russ: and then fall back again.
Tia: the stock market does not
work that way, the stock market is a circular
system. You cannot compare it to people
because it is not a person thing, it is driven
by numbers and desires and bad planning, it is
not something that you can compare to people.
Tia: next question.
Russ: now with each life that you
go on toÖ..
Russ: you start your next cycle of
Russ: now is there a point where
you come full circle?
Tia: not that Iím aware of.
Because if you go full cycle, youíre back to
the point where you have learned nothing and
you need to relearn those lessons. So
therefore it is not growth, it becomes
circular at that point.
Russ: okay wellÖ..
Tia: I know where youíre trying to
Russ: from Atlantis?
Tia: so itís different. You see
what happened right? Is that you learned all
the lessons that were necessary to learn at
Tia: you set into motion karmic
debts that needed to be sorted out and deeds
that were done were driven by the necessary
lessons that had been learned in saying the
waiting period, this is what Iím trying to
understand myself. In the waiting period you
decide what you need to learn best from all
those possibilities that you have created and
to deal and address each one at a time so that
you can advance to the next level having
learned those lessons and if you donít learn
them, you have to repeat them so therefore the
stimuli is not there to advance you see.
Having learned the lessons and getting it
right, you go on to the next set of lessons.
So itís not constantly falling back, youíve
learned your lessons from that class so you
move on to the next logical level.
Russ: the question I have though
is, why is it in those lessons that we had to
learn that pointÖ..
Russ: weíre trying to relearn them
now? I.e., say with psychic skills that we had
and knew of quite well in Atlantis but now
weíre trying to relearn those same skills
again and bring them back up to that point we
were where we lost them from.
Tia: no, I donít see it that way
Russ: okay my healing skills were
much greater at that point then they are now.
Tia: yes but they were also very
corrupted so they needed to be pruned so that
you could not go charging off and become a
great geneticist in this life and create a
race of mutants. You see youíre not learning
how to heal, you're learning how to deal with
those moral issues.
Tia: is it right to tamper with
genes to create a race of for want of a better
word slaves, which is what you did last time?
Tia: so are you learning new
lessons or are you learning how to be like you
Russ: Iím trying to learn from
Tia: thatís right.
Russ: but what about telepathy?
Tia: telepathy? You have
Russ: not to the level I had it
Tia: but you do not need it.
Russ: well, sometimes you think
Tia: you donít really because you
donít need those lessons and the next time I
get called a nasty name like that I am going
to go screaming after that cat.
Russ: okay, I see what your point
Russ: so weíre going on
toÖÖ..because it's just for some reason itís
tough to picture those lessons we learned in
Atlantis as lesser lessons than what weíre
Tia: no, no, no not lesser,
Russ: different, okay.
Russ: so in another words, as okay
Omal said, those were parts of the keys to the
doors to the next evolutionary step.
Russ: and those keys opened up
Russ: that we are now attempting
to get the keys to unlock the rest of the
Tia: correct. Letís look at it a
Tia: okay, you have these great
skills in AtlantisÖ.
Tia: youíre very adept at using
Tia: but wouldnít it be better to
learn how to handle being without them?
Tia: you have them, you've had
them for a long time, but what about learning
to survive without them?
Russ: hmmm, okay.
Tia: you see?
Tia: now you have a whole load of
new and different lessons that you need to
learn. You get to a point where that you have
learned to live without them and you can
remember at times what it was like to live
with them so when it comes time for that next
logical, evolutionary step as Omal calls it
you know both, you know how to live with and
Russ: I see.
Tia: I use my astral travel as
part of my work. Kiriís telling me that she
very seldom uses her coercion.
Russ: as part of her work?
Tia: as part of anything.
Tia: the only time that she uses
her coercion is when somebody is not behaving
as they should and sheís limited on time to
deal with the problem in a different way.
Russ: so in essence she learned
one thing on how to use without it.....
Russ: now she has learned how to
use with it and sheís balancing the two
(Tia starts clapping.)
Russ: but now what about you? You
never started off on sixth dimension, you
started off on third dimension?
Tia: that is why I prefaced it by
saying Iím trying to understand it as well.
Tia: you see?
Russ: right because you being
here, I canít call it an accident because itís
not, youíre obviously here.
Tia: I was probably ready but not
ready. It was one of those things, heads or
tails, am I ready or am I not ready? And I
call heads and it landed on its tail.
Russ: okay. SoÖ..
Tia: but you see what Iím saying?
Tia: I should imagine I could have
gone either way.
Russ: okay, understandable. So
youíre getting your lessons from a different
source than you would of on Durondedunn?
Russ: hmm okay. And Iím getting my
sources from a different place than Sirius.
Tia: correct. So we all have our
paths and lessons to walk.
Tia: okay anymore questions?
Russ: yeah are we going to do the
news tonight, because Iíll need to write it
down actually and transcribe itÖ.
Tia: Iíve been way too busy to do
Tia: just put down Iíve been too
busy with whatís going on in the market,
political situations, I could go on for hours
about that and I donít want to tonight.
Tia: I could go on about economic
setups, exchange ratesÖ.
Russ: donít worry about it.
Russ: it's not exciting.
Tia: yeah. Terribly, terribly dry
and boring unless you happen to be into that
sort of thing which I really am not, well not