Tia; OK, As we have a large crowd gathering, let's
get down to business. First off, the stock market.
In the last two weeks it's dropped 400 points,
that's one and a half percent. Nobodies screaming
and yelling blue murder at this point but there are
rumors floating around that the market is developing
into a bear market. It's actually a bear slash bull
market where it fluctuates and changes constantly.
We'll see what happens before we start issuing
Russ; So now's not a good time to put any money into
Tia; Actually you could get some pretty good deals.
When you play the stock market, it's not getting in
and getting out, it's getting in and waiting and
watching until the right time to sell and make a
profit. Now I have to go and put the first speaker
R; See you in a while.
Russ; Hi Tia.
Tia; First of all, stock market, up two percent for
a total of up 257 points for the whole day. This is
quite expected but, it is the biggest jump ever. It
still hasn't recovered the three percent it lost so,
the stock market's doing it's thing and I'm getting
tired of going over stock market things over and
over again because every time I say something it
happens. Can you blame me? OK, now, dissertation
time. Growth is a good topic to start on. Growth and
understanding in the development and consciousness
from my standpoint and view. Constantly learning is
something that is very important, if you stop
learning, then you stop progressing and advancing.
The necessary struggle involved in the growth is the
important thing. By struggling you grow and by
growing you want to learn more. So it is necessary
to have the correct kind of stimuli to continue the
growth in whatever avenue is necessary for the
individual to choose. In doing so, they have to set
themselves goals and objectives that they are
consciously aware of. By being consciously aware of
these goals, you can head for these objectives which
in turn, are nearer to the subconscious goals on
where you want to go and whatever lessons you feel
are necessary to learn. For example, let's see,
working with computers since that seems to be the
topic and the flavor of the week. By learning new
computer systems and trying to figure out problems,
stimulates the mind in such a way that it becomes
active and craves the necessary desire for the work
to be done. As you well know Russ, constantly
learning new things is very important and by doing
so, you achieve a constant state of growth which is
what you want. Unlike a stock market, which goes
through cycles of growth and retraction, growth and
retraction, and I deliberately repeat that as an
example. It goes through a circular motion whereas
by growing and learning, you do not go through the
circular motion. Because learning one thing leads to
questing and knowledge of the next thing which in
turn makes you want to go to the next thing and the
next thing and it constantly keeps your mind active.
It regenerates you in a particular sort of way that
gives it the necessary impetus and oompth to
continue on your learning quest. You do not need to
go over the same lessons over and over again.
Certainly there are some lessons that need to be
repeated and hammered home, but once they have been
learned, you progress on. By progressing on, you
move on to the next objective that you set yourself.
R; Well just being born is starting off on the cycle
of growth correct?
Tia; Correct. But some people get to a point in
their lives where they are no longer interested in
growth. They are only interested in doing the same
things over and over again.
R; Well for example, as with the stock market,
doesn't that represent some people?
Tia; Yes, it is a circular thing that they don't
R; Well let's say that they grow and then they fall
back, grow and fall back?
Tia; That's not growing. If you listen to what you
said, it is not growing. How can you grow again if
you haven't learned the lessons?
R; Well you learn the lessons and go to a higher
Tia; No, it doesn't work like that. Just as the
stock market is a circular system, you cannot
compare it to people because it is not a person
thing. It is driven by numbers and desires and bad
planning. It is not something you can compare to
people. Next question.
R; Now with each life you go on to you start your
next cycle of life.
R; Now is there a point where you come full circle?
Tia; Not that I'm aware of. Because if you go full
circle then you go back to point where you have
learned nothing and you need to relearn those
lessons. So therefore it is not growth, it becomes
circular at that point. I know where you trying to
R; From Atlantis?
Tia; Uh Hmm. You see it's different. What happened
is that you learned all the lessons that were
necessary to learn at that point. You set into
motion karmic debts to be sorted out and deeds that
were done were driven by the necessary lessons that
had been learned in the waiting period and this is
what I am trying to understand myself. In the
waiting period between lives you decide what you
need to learn best from all those possibilities that
you have created and to deal and address each one,
one at a time so you can advance to the next level
having learned those lessons. If you don't learn
them, you have to repeat them. So therefore, the
stimuli is not there to advance you see. Having
learned the lessons and getting it right, you go on
to the next set of lessons. So it's not constantly
falling back. You've learned your lessons from that
class so you move on to the next logical level.
R; The question I though is why in those lessons we
had to learn at that point, we're trying to relearn
them now? IE, say with psychic skills that we knew
and could use quite well in Atlantis and now we're
trying to relearn those same skills and bring them
back to the point where we lost them from.
Tia; No, I don't see it that way at all.
Tia; Uh Hmm.
R; Well for example, my healing skills were much
greater then than they are now.
Tia; True but they were also corrupted. So they
needed to be pruned so that you could not go
charging off and not become a great geneticist in
this life and create a race of mutants. You see
you're not learning how to heal, you're learning how
to deal with those moral issues. Is it right to
tamper with genes to create for want of a better
word, slaves? Which is what you did last time. So
are you learning new lessons or are you learning how
to be like you once were?
R; I'm trying to learn from that point.
Tia; That's right.
R; What about telepathy?
Tia; You have telepathy.
R; Not at the level I had then.
Tia; But you do not need it.
R; Sometimes you think you do.
Tia; But you don't really, because you don't really
need those lessons.
R; I see what your point is. We have to picture
those lessons from Atlantis as lesser lessons than
what we're learning now.
Tia; No, no. Not lesser, different.
R; Oh yes, different. So as Omal said, those were
parts of the keys to the door to the next
R; And those keys opened up some locks and we are
trying to find the other keys.
Tia; Correct. Let us look at this another way. You
have these great skills in Atlantis and you are very
adept at using them but wouldn't it be better to
learn how to handle being without them? You've had
them for a long time but how about learning to
survive without them?
R; OK.....good point.
Tia; Now you have a whole new set of lessons that
you have to learn. Now you are learning to live
without them and you can remember at times what it
was like to live with them. So when it comes time
for that next evolutionary step, you know both. How
to live with and without them.
R; I see.
Tia; I use my astral travel as part of my work. Kiri
is telling me that she very seldom uses her
coercion. The only time she uses her coercion is
when somebody is not behaving as they should and she
is limited in time in dealing with it in another
R; So in essence she learned how to live without it
and now is balancing the lessons learned from having
R; How about you who never started off on sixth
dimension but instead started off on third
Tia; That is why I prefaced it with I am still
trying to understand it as well.
R; Oh. So you're just getting your lessons from a
different source then you would of on Durondedunn?
R; And I'm getting my lessons from a different place
Tia; Correct, so we all have our paths and lessons
to walk. OK? Any more questions?
R; Nope, you've answered them all.
Tia; OK then I'm going to put on the next speaker.
I'll be back....