Tia Goes Over Some Possible World Changes
Russ; Hi Tia, How's it going?
The people have to pay for these other people to
have food. So in actual fact they're taking money from one
group and giving it to another which upsets the first group
you see. Let us say there is no reinstitution of welfare.
The group that is worst off in the long run is better off
because they go through the suffering, the growth, the
learning and understanding the necessary behavioral patterns
that are needed to be stronger and they will recover
quicker. The people that have had money squirreled away will
spend their money and spend their money until they achieve
the status of the first group but the first group is already
recovering. They know how to recover. The other group has
lived fat and luxurious lives and don't. They suffer. They
go to the government and they beg, thry plead, they riot,
they fight, they cause problems dragging the first group
back down with them. So therefore the disobedience happens
all over again but much more nastier this time. The
government has to step in and institute programs so things
occur that forces the level of learning to be learnt the
harsh way. The recovery rate from this is about thirty to
fifty years. So when they reachieve their balance, it is not
the parents but the offspring that know how to proceed and
how to go on from where they were. This brings into play an
enlightened and accelerated purpose so that it occurs much
more rapidly and the development of the mind because of the
suffering is needed. Whereas the long slow insidious decline
in the first part I discussed creates a laxadasical
attitude. It prolongs the growth. It's like if you go out
and prune roses. You prune them hard and the first year they
don't back as well. The second year they come back a bit
better and the third year they bloom incredibly. Now if you
only prune them lightly, the following year they bloom
beautifully and the year after that they bloom not so well
and they become a little bit woody and long. The third year
they bloom a few flowers but put out quite a bit of growth
and again get very woody and you have to prune them back
hard. That is the way the possibilities I mentioned look.
The harsh pruning is the second possibility and the light
pruning is the first.
Tia; Doing better than ever.
R; Well that's good to hear.
Tia; Well let's get down to business and start tonight's
session. By Mark's watch it is seven five zero. Well?
R; I have some questions on the economic front.
Tia; OK, go ahead.
R; Welfare reform is being discussed in the government and I
was wondering how it will affect the various possibilities
of a financial crisis that you have warned about? Possibly
the difference between a depression or a recession. What are
your views on that?
Tia; Well there are various other contributing factors that
go into that. Not just a recession. Increase in frivolous
expenditure, for example feel good programs to make people
feel good about cars which they already own.
R; Did you get that from the movie ''Dave?''
Tia; I did actually but they do have programs like that. You
see, the Democratic party seems to be interested in one
thing and one thing only, power.
R; Well it beats the Republicans who are only interested in
Tia; Well money can be a useful tool. Power, absolute power
R; Corrupts absolutely?
Tia; Correct. Also you must take into account the government
bickering and arguing over factors such as shutting the
government down the government itself. As I said before,
feel good programs that actually do nothing. For example,
saving fictional endangered species, stopping alternative
growth, buying external oil when the country is quite
capable of supporting itself using ethanol as opposed to
petroleum products. Expenditures like that which drain the
very life blood from the country.
R; Well as I remember the country doesn't buy all the oil,
the gas companies do.
Tia; The gas companies could easily buy internally products
such as ethanol.
R; Well the government doesn't control the gas companies?
Tia; True, but they control imports and exports. Sending
military forces overseas to protect VITAL oil resources. One
third of the United States armed forces are overseas
protecting oil resources which is frivolous when your
country's quite capable of surviving independently without
importing petroleum products. These external frivolous
expenditures are a drain on the people because who has to
pay these men who are overseas? Who has to pay for their
transport? Who has to pay for their food? Who has to pay for
their clothing? Who has to pay for their entertainment? You
guys do. The further they are away the more it costs. The
longer they're overseas the more it costs.
R; Well what I see happening is that the government is
working on various forms of welfare reform, mainly taking
welfare away from illegal immigrants and minorities. By
doing so they're getting upset a group of people who if
there was a recession, wouldn't take much to go over their
limits. This might be a cause of the possibilities where we
do see chaos in the cities.
Tia; Uh Hmm.
R; So with that, is it better to wish for welfare reform or
push to keep it from happening?
Tia; It depends on what path you wish to go down.
R; Well explain please the different paths you are talking
Tia; OK, let's say welfare reform doesn't happen right? But,
a recession does.
R; All right.
Tia; OK, everybody suffers. Everybody suffers equally but
it's not that bad and recovery does happen. But it takes
time to get back to where you are now. A long time. A
hundred years at least. Now let us assume that welfare
reform does occur and the crash does happen with all the
right circumstances occur to facilitate rioting, mass
disobedience and so on. There's one of many things that
could happen. One is that the government reinstitues welfare
programs, food stamps and so on. But that doesn't really
help because there is no money anyway because where does the
money come from? The people.
R; So it's the difference of a hundred years and fifty years
R; Is there a chance that neither could happen?
Tia; I don't it happening. So you really look most likely to
end up in a variation of those two.
R; So welfare reform itself won't bring about the major
Tia; No, not on it's own.
R; What about the fact that the middle class is shrinking?
Won't that add to the bulk of people who are fed up with
many of these different programs you are talking about?
Tia; Well the definition of the middle class keeps on
chopping and changing and it's really hard to define what
the middle class is. To start off with, when your current
president was elected it was anybody that earned over a
$250,000 a year was upper class which meant that anybody
below that but earned more than $20,000 were middle class.
Then it changed to anybody that earned over $100,000 were in
the upper class. Then suddenly, the middle class became
anybody that earned under $70,000. Bang, there goes another
set of people into the upper class bracket. Very clever
manipulation if you think about it. What's it doing? It's
creating class envy. It is creating the environment where a
group of individuals that are power hungry can get control
over the people that are disgruntled, the middle class and
the lower class by saying ''look at all these people that
have suddenly made it into the upper class, the wealthy
class. Very clever move.
R; Yes, but won't the upper class be the last to learn? I
mean even they have more chance to learn and more chance to
study, they really don't take advantage of that.
Tia; No, you would be surprised how many are spiritually
aware and involved.
R; Well maybe their sons and daughters.
Tia; What did I say about the ones that matter? It's not the
parents, it's the kids.
R; Now with that happening they'll be more insulated from
this as you say but they will still come down the ladder a
ways and that's when the real learning will take place?
R; But in the meantime those that have already been through
it will be on their way up?
R; Now what's that leave for those of us who have already
learned from this and are already on the way back up? That
will make us teachers then?
Tia; Correct. Teachers and helpers. Now, I have to put on
the next speaker, any questions before I go?
Tia; OK, I'll be back in a while.
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