In attendance: Russ and John

Karra: hello.

Russ: hi Karra.

John: hi Karra.

Karra: greetings, how is it going gentlemen?

Russ: good of course.

John: good, good.

Karra: okay, let us get down to business, healers hall.

Russ: healers hall.

Karra: okay, what do you wish to know?

Russ: we used in your bio.......

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: where we added the chemical compounds combined with crystals...

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: let's go a little bit on that.

Karra: okay........yes?

Russ: maybe you could describe it a little bit for us?

Karra: chemical compounds. Okay, using such chemicals as iron.

Russ: right.

Karra: after all, you all need iron but it is such a minute amount that it is very hard to explain. You use very minute amounts of chemical compounds. For example, calcium mixed in water, apart from making a very horrible taste in the mouth, is quite useful. But there are other ways of getting these chemical compounds such as calcium through milk.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: that is very useful for bones and hair. So the chemical compounds that I am using are actually included in the food so it would be more accurate to say nutritional chemical compounds.

Russ: ahhh, well that clears that up a little bit.

Karra: yes.

Russ: okay. Now as I remember, we were working at one time on somebody who had broken their leg I think or something and you were talking about their arm. I believe you were talking about use of magnets.......

Karra: yes.

Russ: on Hades Base in conjunction with the cast and crystals.

Karra: yes.

Russ: and now we're finding similar healing techniques being employed down here on earth.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: with the use of magnets.

Karra: very strong, powerful magnets.

Russ: right.

Karra: and what is actually happening is it is stimulating pushing together North and South together, pull together, generating a field that pulls.

Russ: right.

John: would those very powerful magnets be electromagnets?

Karra: they can be but electromagnets have to be shielded from the rest of the body because they can have detrimental effects but the generating field of an electromagnet has to be very high and intense to be that harmful to the body.

Russ: but regular magnets will do the same job.

Karra: but it takes longer yes.

Russ: right.

Karra: the magnets we use on the base are a magnet that are very, very powerful over a short distance and then dissipate quite quickly.

Russ: hmmm, do we have anything similar down here?

Karra: electromagnets to a certain extent but of course these magnets are charged in a different way in their magna......please, help me.

John: magnetic.

Russ: magnetic field.

John: properties?

Karra: magnetism.

John: magnetism?

Karra: that is the word I was looking for, magnetism. The magnetism is much more intense in the ones that we have up here over a shorter area. Electromagnets, their energy field dissipates quite quickly.

Russ: uh-huh. Now as I recall when Linda was here, we were discussing from quite a while back actually the use of special magnets.

Karra: bio magnets.

Russ: bio magnets. Now how does that field compare to the ones that you use?

Karra: they are similar but they're also quite different.

Russ: they're weaker right?

Karra: oh much weaker, much, much weaker. And even though they do accelerate the healing process, it is not as rapid as it would be up here with our much more intense and stronger magnetic field. There are magnets up here which are quite capable of actually leaching out of your body the iron, they are that powerful.

Russ: wow.

Karra: so it is necessary sometimes to ingest iron in minute amounts to individuals that work in this field. They will ingest more iron than they actually need because they know they're going to lose some of it.

Russ: I see.

John: are you familiar with the magnets that you can wear in your shoes?

Karra: those are bio magnets.

John: oh okay, so we are talking about the same thing.

Karra: correct.

John: I've got a pair.

Karra: uh-huh.

John: and do you see some benefit with them?

Karra: yes and no. Don't expect a lot because the magnetic field is not as intense as would be necessary to heal. However, they are very soothing and relaxing. They make you feel comfortable. It is something that is useful.

Russ: hmm, do doubling the magnets up double the field?

Karra: not as much as one would like.

Russ: uh-huh. So tripling then you would get you more of a benefit then singularly.

Karra: yes but the field is not as intense as one would like.

Russ: okay so no matter what, you're going to have to work with it on a slower basis.

Karra: correct.

Russ: now besides working on healing broken bones, what other uses would magnetism that we can find down here like for example with bio magnets, help in the healing properties of of the body?

Karra: oh there are many, many different uses that would be used. Cuts, scratches, headaches believe it or not.

Russ: hmmm.

John: how about wear and tear on your legs?

Karra: yes.

John: I was told that bio magnets are good because the type of work I do and all the lifting and......

Karra: well that goes back to wearing them in your shoes and the soothing affect that it has. You see when something is not as tired, it will last longer. When a muscle becomes tired, it is working harder to pump oxygen and blood to the extremities and therefore it takes more energy. Something that makes that easier is very useful.

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: and that is what those bio magnets do.

John: do bio magnets that we get on this planet, do they wear out after a period of time? Do they lose their magnetism?

Karra: eventually yes but it is something that takes quite a while, something that I wouldn't worry about your lifetime Johnny.

John: oh really? So the pair I bought a couple years ago in Sedona are still functioning and working okay?

Karra: they should be.

John: okay.

Karra: if they're not, you got ripped off, they weren't real magnets.

Russ: now what if you're able to hook up a battery charge to one? Would that increase the power without the debilitating effects of actually having electromagnets?

Karra: no, it wouldn't increase the electrical magnetic field as much as you are implying.

Russ: uh-huh.

Karra: yes it does increase it but it is not a dramatic jump. 

Russ: okay. 

Karra: you have to remember to have positive to North, negative the South otherwise you are realigningthese poor suckers and if they lose alignment, what happens?

Russ: they reverse it.

Karra: no they lose magnetism.

Russ: oh.

Karra: if they lose alignment. They all have to point in the same way for magnetism correct?

Russ: correct.

Karra: now if one's going this way, one's going that way and another one's that way and they're going all higgledy-piggledy, what happens to the magnet?

Russ: it just becomes a piece of metal.

Karra: correct.

Russ: uh-huh.

John: higgledy-piggledy, is that a technical term?

Karra: oh yes, very, very technical.

John: oh, okay.

Karra: uh-huh.

Russ: yeah, originally from Sirius from way, way back, it survived the eons of time to....

Karra: oh yes, oh immensely, immensely old. It is like some of our medical expressions that we use to shorten words. Like H..F..HFF. Somebody comes in with a broken leg, let's say it's a guy and I would say "HFF, we better work on this one quickly".

Russ: hmmm.

Karra: what does HFF mean? His #@^%@* fault.

Russ: well that's putting it......

John: okay yeah,

Russ: diplomatically.

John: very, very technical.

Karra: uh-huh, oh yes, it's a fightfully technical term. Or what would be another one? Let me see. H.....HDB no, HPH. I remember when I was a medic in the army, Sirian Defense Force I had a few of these.

Russ: what's it mean?

Karra: hygiene person......hygiene personal habits.

Russ: oh.

Karra: it means he doesn't have any. 

Russ: so it would be actually PHH, personal hygiene habits.

Karra: well, English isn't my language.

Russ: true, true.

Karra: I get the words mixed up.

Russ: hmm, okay.

Karra: yes?

Russ: and now working with crystals and magnets?

Karra: uh-huh, okay now crystals are more of an energy supply for the spiritual being to recharge the injured individual. It is quite common for somebody that has been hurt to feel physically drained of energy and this is because their body's immune system is fighting the infection or fighting to repair itself. So what do you do? You use crystal to re-energize the individual or, if you happen to be fortunate enough to have healing crystals, use the energies from those focusing in on the harmed area and what it is actually doing is the energy that is already in that area focusing on healing is being directed by this crystal, let's say it is a laser crystal right and you're using a sweeping motion right? What you're doing is focusing the energy in that area in a sweeping motion and augmenting it with the energy of the crystal which is helping to heal by sweeping the energy into a useful, cohesive unit.

Russ: so if we were to use magnets also that would do the same thing?

Karra: yes but sometimes it is best to use a combination of healing techniques.

Russ: right, which is why I'm thinking of using both, the crystals and magnets.

Karra: yes, you would use them either simultaneously or one after the other.

John: are you familiar with this publication?

Karra: oh this one? I'm afraid I can't open Mark's eyes to read it and I don't read English very well. What is it called?

John: it's called the "The Complete Crystal Guidebook".

Karra: yes, I believe I am aware of it.

Russ: being as it's my book.

John: no, this is my book.

Russ: oh I've got one too then.

John: oh, yeah I know.

Russ: oh, so yeah she's quite familiar with it.

John: it's "a practical path to self development, empowerment and healing for the beginner and advanced."

Karra: uh-huh.

John: it's by someone called Uma....

Russ: Sibley..

John: Sibley?

Karra: oh yes.

John: Shilbey?

Russ: Sibley.

Karra: Sibley.

John: Sibley.

Karra: I am vaguely aware of it...........your question being Johnny?

John: is it a good, practical handbook for us to use here?

Karra: yes, it is quite a useful tool.

John: would there be some other publications that you're aware of that we have on this planet?

Karra: I do not have Tia's expertise on computers otherwise I would look it up and help you. As much as I would love to, I lack the expertise.

John: okay, that's good enough.

Karra: okay. All right, last questions.

John: that was my last question.

Karra: okay I'll see you guys later, especially you dear.

Russ: of course my love.