GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE; RUSS, KAREN AND JOHN
Tia; OK, let's get down to business and start
tonight's session. By Mark's clock it is seven dot
Karen; Hi Tia. How are you doing?
Tia; I'm doing reasonably well.
Johnny; Hi there.
Tia; Greetings Johnny.
Tia; I see our resident communicator is not here
K; He'll be here shortly.
Do you have questions for me?
K; I have a couple of questions.
K; One, and I don't know if you can answer it but
I'll give it a shot anyway. I need to know if there
is any way possible to conceive in astral travel?
Tia; None whatsoever.
K; Absolutely none?
Tia; Absolutely none. Let me put it this way. How
can you conceive in an astral form that doesn't have
the equipment in the astral level?
K; Well you know how Mark and Russ go solid up
K; Say you do something of that sort and you go to
that place and conceive. Could you bring it back
Tia; Yes and no. It involves certain technical
questions that I'm not familiar with and can't
release. It is possible to be quote ''abducted'' and
taken to places and be inseminated one way or
Russ; Good evening.
Tia; Good evening. OK, let us continue. It is easier
for a male to be the inseminator as opposed to the
female. When you create a body up here, you are
collecting all the molecules and they are falling
into a pattern which is aligned within the body
creating certain gene codes so that you are for all
intense purposes, physical. Even in the astral form
when you go solid up here it is exactly the same,
you are physical.
K; OK, Tia, so you're actually saying that a man
could make a woman conceive?
Tia; In the physical form on an astral level. For
example, you have two people that go solid on an
astral level, now we're talking about people that
know how to do this, not think that they know how to
do it, but actually know how to do it. For example
if I went into the astral world and collected enough
energy to go solid, and Mark did likewise, though I
don't know how to make myself go completely solid,
so that rules me out, but supposing I did. We could
conceive. And then popping back through to the real
world, I would be pregnant. But, I don't know how to
do it and there are very few people that do know how
to do it and you do know how to do it. You have to
be able to have done it a lot of times to be able to
conceive. It's a neat trick, a real neat trick and
as far as I know, there isn't anybody that has for
the simple reason that both parties have to plan the
whole entire thing. Going solid, conceiving,
returning back to the body.
K; Say I'm down here and I get visited and feel more
or less everything including the weight, you see
this person and you know exactly what this person
looks like. You think you got pregnant with somebody
else, and the DNA test says no possible way. Then
you remember that you had actually done this in some
sort of a dream state and you're pregnant.
Tia; Again, both parties have to be willing and
consenting because babies are made with love and
even babies that are created in test tubes are made
with love. the desires of parents are so strong that
they need that child. Even if it's not the mother's
egg or the father's sperm, but love has made that
child because they want a child so badly and love it
so dearly. However, abductions do occur for whatever
K; So you can pregnant from an abduction then?
Tia; Yes. It has happened.
R; What about rape. That isn't conceiving a child in
Tia; No, that is not.
K; But that's not an abduction.
Tia; For example, I know Mark would never do that
but let say that he gets a crazy idea and decides to
rape a young lady and she gets pregnant. Well for
the action to occur that has to be some kind of
passion to get the blood flowing in the male.
K; You mean lust.
Tia; Exactly. But it is the desire that is there.
It's a little harder when it comes to rape. A rape
is a mental state of mind. An intent and probably a
lust or a desire for that woman at that time. I
don't know how the minds of men work if indeed at
all they work in those instances.
K; OK, now can abductions be from your soul mate or
are these abductions from people that we really
shouldn't be dealing with at all?
Tia; Some can be from a soul mate, some could be
from people that you really don't meet .
K; OK, so if they can be made through a soul mate,
cause I'm still trying to figure out who my second
daughter belongs too, and it's really driving me up
the wall the thing is, I remember this person being
very tall, having black and gray hair, really nice
looking, weighing really close to 260 or 280, and I
remember feeling his weight, I remember ha it was
the best sex I ever had.
Tia; This is a bit of a personal question, but were
you taking any type of substance?
K; No, this was back in 1984. I was very faithful to
one man, who happened to be six foot four as well,
and no I wasn't on any type of drugs of whatsoever
at that time.
Tia; The mind can do some incredible things,
especially in the throws of passion, the mind can
create some things, It's real hard to explain,
you'll have to talk to Karra.
K; As I remember, I just decided to take a nap and I
remember just zooming off into nowhere land.
Tia; You see, you were mentally into such a deep
sleep and your boyfriend wasn't?
K; No, I was at home, my boyfriend wasn't there. OK,
see and on the DNA test's, it proved that he wasn't
the father. But, my daughter is already five foot
eight and she's only twelve years old, and I'm only
five six and a half. My second daughter is sixteen
and she is very short. Oh well that's enough about
Tia; I, having been there have a unique perspective.
I remember hearing the voices around me, I remember
seeing the light, I remember being stopped from
crossing over because I was told it was not my time
and I was told that I had to go back to my body. Now
I remember more voices whispering, asking me
questions I didn't understand.
J; Can I ask a two part question?
J; All right, as a beginning astral traveler, does
your risk of alien abduction go up?
Tia; No, actually it works the other way, the better
you get the higher it gets. That's because at that
point you become a bright spark that is, ''oh my
what's that bright spark?'' But as a beginner,
you're quite safe and it's more possible to get
possessed or pick up something from fatigue or do
something that your not meant to do like pass
through a core of nuclear reactor and you'll end up
itching and you'll have to take a shower very
quickly. Most problems for early beginning astral
travelers is fatigue. They're not experienced in
what they're doing and they're going off longer then
they should so that they end up very tired. I've
noticed that when Mark teaches he wouldn't let the
person go for more then maybe, fifteen to twenty
minutes. The rest of it is the prepping up time,
write that down because it quite a responsibility.
J; Does it matter whether you're in a conscious
state or in a dream state?
Tia; Starts off with no, it's not important, it's
irrelevant. The fact that your traveling and you
know your traveling is the main thing, being aware
of what you can't and what you can do is the
important thing. Staying away from certain energy
fields, staying away from certain areas, these are
all important. Not trying to over excert yourself,
these are all common mistakes made by beginners, but
the higher you go, your risk factor does increase
and you do have to take certain precautions. Other
things that you have to watch out for is the more
powerful you get as a astral traveler the more
attention your going to attract from other people,
people tend to hover around Mark from time to time,
and he's a known astral traveler in the chat rooms,
people will hover around him and ask questions.
That's why he split himself into a playful side and
a serious side. Being a known astral traveler people
come and seek your advice and what happens is that
when the technique they are using that you teach
them doesn't work, they get angry with the teacher
and not themselves because they're not following it
step by step. Usually they're missing some key
factor somewhere. Anyway, I've got to put on the